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Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby Cinque Mtume » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:33 am

Cinque,

Thanks for your input, saaxib. :up:
So you're sticking to the notion that El Dhere is larger than Abudwaq?

You do realize that the numbers in that chart you represented stand for the population of the entire district and not the towns itself. El Dhere district might by larger in square miles and therefore more populous, but when it comes to the towns, Abudwaq is the clear winner saxib.
I believe and have been arguing that Ceel-Dheere Districtis bigger & demographically larger than Abudwaq district. Do you disagree?
When it comes to the districts, which the debate was not about (and if it was you should inform the Gedo crew by PM), than I agree El Dhere is a larger district than Abudwaq.

At the end of the day they're both villages and the only cities of Central Somalia are Galkacyo and Beledweyn. :lol:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby Voltage » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:38 am


You do realize that the numbers in that chart you represented stand for the population of the entire district and not the towns itself. El Dhere district might by larger in square miles and therefore more populous, but when it comes to the towns, Abudwaq is the clear winner saxib.
Do you really take that chart at face value? That chart is from the 2005 UNDP estimates, at a time when Caabudwaaq wasn't even accessible to Marehan diaspora let alone ethnographic researchers. But beyond that, there is nothing to say about the ethnographic tools used to derive those estimates and could very well much be based on Somali nationals contracted with providing information for UN agencies located in Nairobi. They are notorious for doing this. If not outright bias from contracted nationals, it could simply be based on perception. I bet you that the average Somali thinks Dhusa-Mareb is much larger than Caabudwaaq when through photographic and satellite evidence it is a little more than a 1/3 of Caabudwaaq. However in all things that matter such as meetings, plannings, base of organization, of logistics, use of infrastructure it is very much evident that Caabudwaaq is not only the principal economic capital of Galgaduud but is the capital de facto in general not de jure.

Those NGO's and others who directly deal in the region stipulate the population as such:

The international Red Cross (those counted to be helped)
In March, together with the Somali Red Crescent the ICRC distributed two-month food rations to 60,000 people in the Abudwak district of central Somalia to meet urgent acute needs

http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/docum ... 230410.htm
Abudwak, Balanbal, Dhabad and surrounding towns and villages have an estimated population of over 160,000.

http://www.somalicare.org/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=18
41K estimate my ass or Ceel-Dheere which could be a supported village by Caabudwaaq town trying to debate.

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby melo » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:52 am

Is TL now trying to claim that Abgaal are a Galguduud powerhouse? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:27 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wallahi its sad that, this Roving Kid is trying to use 'the al-shabaab warriors in Galgaduud are Abgaal'. This guy is so desperate that now he uses al-shabaab for tribal gain. Well let me burst your bubble, the Al-Shabaab of Galgaduud consist of Murursade, Duduble, Habar Gidir and Raxanweyn. Matter of fact, the media many times discussed which tribes are the majority in Al-Shabaab which are Daarood and they put Marehan and Ogaden first, alongside Raxanweyne then Hawiye they put Habar Gidir and Murarsade first. But me I'aint gonna boast about Al-shabaab marehans cause to me they are my poltical enemies, whats worse is that the walaayad of shabelle dhexe is a Marehan, Reer Siyaad Diini guy :lol: :lol: :lol: (voltage's sub sub-clan). But I dont give a fuck.

Your not majority in AL-Shabaab, you are not part of ahlu sunna, your not majority in TFG....what are you majority in? :lol: :lol:

Whilst I'm the lion of South Somalia, my TFG troops extend all the way from Dolloow to Dhoobley in Lower Juba, there are over 2000 Marehan TFG soldiers in Xamar, Xildhibaan Magan Bood tried to threathen to take them out of Xamar during the Farmaajo VS United Nations era (you can listen to him clearly saying this on dhacdooyinka website, just put his name on the search engine) :lol: :lol:

Where are your TFG troops? :lol: :lol: Dude you villages are occupied by Daarood, Hawiye, Raxanweyn al-shabaabist. Your nothing.

And then you have the cheeks to argue to me that Ceeldheere is the biggest place in Galgaduud :lol: :lol: :lol: wallahi ur just embarrassing urself.

Ceeldheer is only settled by 10 abgaal men and their 10 children, they came to that location to wait for colonials to come, hoping that the colonials will make them president like aden cadde :lol: :lol:

The media never talks about that village that your boasting about, al-shabaab were there for few weeks, they got bored from there and probably left. The ahlu Sade of central somalia never talk about ceeldheere, they probably thing its a mythical place :lol: :lol:

Your so delusional that you reject evidence right infront of you.

The lions of central somalia, is known and its beesha mareexaan. My people live all the way from galkacyo to beledweyne and the only clan that has the biggest man-power is them, they defend all the villages in Galgaduud from Al-Shabaab, they take part in re-capturing places from Al-Shabaab. Ain't it sad that, when marehan troops leave dhuusomareeb, al-shabaab re-take it within a hour. :lol: :lol: saxib my troops are defending mataaban, xeeraale, dhusomareeb.

Your nothing but a low-class idiot, your whole tribe can be bought by Maslax Maxamed Siyad Barre :lol: :lol: Maskiin baa tihin, as we speak Sheikh Shariff was called by the finger and was told to come Garoowe, subxanallah a president coming to a regional state just to talk to faroole :lol: :lol: :lol:

Get this in your ignorant dumb brain: The lions of South AND Central Somalia is MAREXAAN 8-)

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby abdalla11 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:01 pm

I believe that Burtinle is larger than both Cabudwaaq and ceeldheere :|

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:13 pm

I believe that Burtinle is larger than both Cabudwaaq and ceeldheere :|
I'm sorry but my Awrtable brothers town cannot be compared to the biggest city in Galgaduud ee Caabudwaaq.

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I know u hail from naago darood tribe and u can't help from acting like a dhoocil, but do not get urself involved with discussions that has nothing to do with u. :!:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby abdalla11 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:51 pm

Why do you have always emotional outbursts? I didn't make you langaab

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:54 pm

Why do you have always emotional outbursts? I didn't make you langaab
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby gemini_snake » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:57 pm

Why do you have always emotional outbursts? I didn't make you langaab
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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby Aseelah-Raaida » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:23 pm

Why do you have always emotional outbursts? I didn't make you langaab

:lol: :lol:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby RovingMadness » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:55 pm

Why do you have always emotional outbursts? I didn't make you langaab

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby RovingMadness » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:57 pm

XimaanJaale,

Abgaal President gave your superman Farmaajo the pink slip & if you ever come to Mogadishu to pursue your dreams of Radio Mogadishu presenter, your boss will be Abdirahin Isse Addow. Don't even think of biting the hand that feeds you :idea:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby Cinque Mtume » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:00 pm

Why do you have always emotional outbursts? I didn't make you langaab
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:59 pm

Is TL now trying to claim that Abgaal are a Galguduud powerhouse? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wallahi I usually don't engage in heavy tribal banter but that is just ludicrous, Marehan/HG/Dir are the sole powerhouse of galgaduud.

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Re: Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

Postby RovingMadness » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:14 pm

Is TL now trying to claim that Abgaal are a Galguduud powerhouse? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wallahi I usually don't engage in heavy tribal banter but that is just ludicrous, Marehan/HG/Dir are the sole powerhouse of galgaduud.
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