Somalia's third real Federal State to be formed.

[Murax]

Is TL now trying to claim that Abgaal are a Galguduud powerhouse?

@ a fellow Hawiye not even taking this claim seriously

[grandpakhalif]

Is TL now trying to claim that Abgaal are a Galguduud powerhouse?

Wallahi I usually don't engage in heavy tribal banter but that is just ludicrous, Marehan/HG/Dir are the sole powerhouse of galgaduud.

Wara I wanna donate some gently used clothes, what's your address so I can ship them to you?

A faqir enters jannah a 1000 years before others, so do not mock the less fortunate lest you anger our Lord.

[melo]

Is TL now trying to claim that Abgaal are a Galguduud powerhouse?

Wallahi I usually don't engage in heavy tribal banter but that is just ludicrous, Marehan/HG/Dir are the sole powerhouse of galgaduud.

wallahi cadiim.. this is the first ive ever heard of this claim before. I have never heard an abgaal person in my life claim they are top dogs in Galguduud. Usually they stick to their old fairytales of owning xamar. But this guy wants galguduud too

I mean, the clan make up of Ahlussunah should put this claim to rest.

[RovingMadness]

Melodramatic,

We know you have extreme cuqdad against Mudulood and that's your birth-right considering your position yesterday & today.

Murusade, Duduble, Sacad & Saleeban are also part of the social fabric and history of the Central Regions and they are not part of Ahlu Sunnah. Does that mean they are not part of the Central Regions? Your inferiority complex against Mudulood makes it possible for you to cheer-lead and make negative comments against Mudulood in front of folks that despise and loath your very existence. You are a pathetic creature wallahi and there is a reason why I always ignore your sneaky and cowardly attacks against Mudulood. it's quite pathetic and sad, but I won't expect anything better from an ex-slave

[melo]

Melodramatic,

We know you have extreme cuqdad against Mudulood and that's your birth-right considering your position yesterday & today.

Murusade, Duduble, Sacad & Saleeban are also part of the social fabric and history of the Central Regions and they are not part of Ahlu Sunnah. Does that mean they are not part of the Central Regions? Your inferiority complex against Mudulood makes it possible for you to cheer-lead and make negative comments against Mudulood in front of folks that despise and loath your very existence. You are a pathetic creature wallahi and there is a reason why I always ignore your sneaky and cowardly attacks against Mudulood. it's quite pathetic and sad, but I won't expect anything better from an ex-slave

Inferioty complex? . In case you haven't noticed, but i've rallied for several months against their idol, MSB. I stand on my own, against all opponents.

I just find your fairy tales amusing. Here you are, a refugee in the states, reminiscing about some mythical dominance you've never experienced. This dominance, even if true, is nothing to boast about. I mean, do you understand how ridiculous you look?

And don't pretend that you don't loathe my existence too. You happily accepted amxaaro to invade Somalia to flush HG out of xamar. That to me is the lowest level of humanity. Don't feign Hawiyedom on me sxb.. you are a snake.

[melo]

And Ahlussunah are the powerhouse in Galguduud today. This is a fact. They are the only movement that severely karbashed Al-shabaab. Their clan make up is known.

[RovingMadness]

Melodramatic,

I am not going to go back & forth with you like some dhoocil, but its clear you are pathetic coward who hides behind the religion for his clan motives. I am man enough to state my disagreements and criticism against you is based purely on politics, however you lecture about Islam and moral ideals while furthering a very poisonous and filthy clan agenda continuously ranting and attacking Mudulood. I don't sink that low not even against Darood or Digil or Mirifle. In fact, your description of MSB as a murtad while hailing Caydeed fits this sick and twisted pattern.

About the Ethiopian intervention, your inability to assess that experience objectively shows your narrow-minded hatred of Mudulood. If the Ethiopian Intervention was one against HG, then your clan was part and parcel of that engagement. Sacad's entire militia under the leadership of Abdi-Qaybdid abd Saleeban's militias led by Gacmodheere were involved in every raid and battle that took against your clan. Retrospection and soul searching is what you need. Moaning and bitching about Mudulood is not going to set you free. You don't see Mudulood complain about when your clan enlisted Murusade, Xawadle, Jareer, Abdirehman Tuur's SNM against Mudulood in the 4 month war, all is fair in politics. For right or wrong, Mudulood took the radical position that your clan should all pack up and leave Mogadishu. Prof Ali Mohamed Ghedi implemented it and Sh Sharif finished it. Today, the only HG militias in all of Xamar are the two dozen of Indhocade and your population has almost entirely relocated to their regions. My friend, the civil war is over and Mudulood has won. You should be thinking of phase II instead of playing the same tactics and games that got you defeated

[melo]

So quick to drop the statement about inferiorty complex around Daroods huh.. . TL's strategy: When your argument is shown to be null and void, make up another baseless argument from which to attack.

I have written previously on the differences between Caydiid and MSB. They both died as criminals, but Caydiid did not have the audacity at any stage to declare that God's words were khurafaad. I have posted on this forum excerpts that even the Suufis consider Secularism to be a different religion. I have noted that there is an Ijmaac on the apostacy of people who reject the rulings of the Quran by mouth, whilst there is no Ijmaac on the apostacy of mass murderers (Yaziid, Al-Hajjaj etc) It is not my fault that your knowledge of t basic Islamic tenets has such a low horizon.

Secondly, you need to stop rehashing previous conversations. I have already dealt with the two criminals you've now mentioned. This isn't about my clan, it is about your unethical stances. You feign hawiyness, calling me out for attacking the brotherly mudulood, but yet celebrate the displacement of thousands of Hawiye. Like i said, you are a snake, and snakes get their heads chopped you.

all is fair in politics.

I'm alright with that. But just don't pull out the HAWIYE card again. It will just expose your nifaaq again for all to see.

My friend, the civil war is over and Mudulood has won

[RovingMadness]

Melodramatic,

As long as you attack Mudulood for the Ethiopian intervention, I will remind you of your clan's role in the displacement of your people. That's just common-sense. Lol@ Hawiye Card, saaxib I am Hawiye through & through and what's more, I am the undisputed social, cultural and political leadership of Hawiye. I don't need your permission and besides majority of Hawiye including CEYR are happy & satisfied with Mudulood leadership. Don't get it twisted.

Today, there's a total government rule in Mogadishu, HG militias have been disbanded and relocated to their regions, and the city is under Mudulood political abd military leadership. Shabelle Media is not attacking abd calling Sh Dharif qabilist randomly lol. As I said, our ideology has prevailed and your group is too divided and weak to threaten anyone. In fact, the biggest threat to HG comes from within itself. Facts are just that-facts.

It's this defeat that burns you inside and makes it possible to moan about Mudulood. Our stance is clear: either submit willingly or you will be forced into submission. We don't negotiate with terrorist just ask Dahir Aweys & Caydeed

[TheblueNwhite]

[melo]

There is one big difference between you and I: I have the courage and decency to speak openly against my tribal leaders when they commit atrocities. You on the other hand will go along with your leaderships bidding, even if they take you the gates of hell fire. The fact that you boast about the Ethiopian Invasion of Somalia as some sort of Mudulood success, highlights the twisted nature of your diseased heart

[melo]

Isn't it time for you to beg TL to leave adeer Gacmodheere alone? .

[RovingMadness]

There is one big difference between you and I: I have the courage and decency to speak openly against my tribal leaders when they commit atrocities. You on the other hand will go along with your leaderships bidding, even if they take you the gates of hell fire. The fact that you boast about the Ethiopian Invasion of Somalia as some sort of Mudulood success, highlights the twisted nature of your diseased heart

Man enough to you is hiding behind the religion to further your clan ambitions which by the way were defeated & discarded.

My clan leadership whether wrong or right deserves and gets my respect & support. ALWAYS. We don't need your suggestions.

[grandpakhalif]

melo is no qabilist, or munafiq, he recognized that Caydiid's initial actions against Siyad Barre were legitimate but everything after his desposal was the act of a faajir.

Only a weak muslim would disagree.

[Voltage]

And don't pretend that you don't loathe my existence too. You happily accepted amxaaro to invade Somalia to flush HG out of xamar. That to me is the lowest level of humanity. Don't feign Hawiyedom on me sxb.. you are a snake.