No wonder Somali territory was colonized by so many states

[Jaidi]

Seeing the repulsion and celebration regarding the Kenyan incursion framed from clan interests has made it quite clear why Somali regions were split up between so many different imperial interests. Easiest people to manipulate in the world. I'm sure the reactions were pretty similar in the 19th and 20 century as well

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Pathetic, isn't it?

[Advo]

Yup.

We have no alliegience to country, only clans. Our clanish mentality can be exploited pretty much by anyone that can pass a DUI test. I have seen grown man fight each other over clan bullsh!t on the street and when the 18 year old cadaan security guard came, they begged him and tried explain to him that the other clan was wrong but they wouldnt listen to each other

I don't give a fudge if alshabaab are stoning babies daily, no country should be allowed to invade our borders. They cheer and roar as if kenya/ethiopia would sacrifice their soldiers for our interest and wellbeings lol. I just had about enough of foriegners in Somalia, walaa AU forces, french/American drones, Ethies/Kenyans etc. They should all be kicked out.

[Estarix]

These shameless niggas defending Kenyas invasion are non other than uncle Toms raided in Kenya, their a modern phenomenom.

[The_Patriot]

Seeing the repulsion and celebration regarding the Kenyan incursion framed from clan interests has made it quite clear why Somali regions were split up between so many different imperial interests. Easiest people to manipulate in the world. I'm sure the reactions were pretty similar in the 19th and 20 century as well

Its 20 yrs and by now every one know that somalis have always used foreign power to harm other somalis.
To refresh your brain USC and SNM used Ethiopian assistance to oust MSB govt.

PL ,SL always used Ethiopians to further their interest so did the Mogadishu warlords.

The peek was when A/Yusuf used Ethiopians to quell USC turned pseudo religious admin.

Then Did Sharif use AMISOM power to survive in Xamar.

So did Ahlu sufi use Ethiopian asssitance to dorminate other regions.

The bottom line was each one was acting on his self interest that was detrimental to other somalis.

So when other somalis who were lagging in appeasing foreign entities joined in the game people come here crying foul play in the name wadaninimo etc.

Wadaninimo was butchered in 1991 and hence there is no Somali state apart from everyone for himself and may the devil take the hind most.

[Jaidi]

These shameless niggas defending Kenyas invasion are non other than uncle Toms raided in Kenya, their a modern phenomenom.

Definitely not modern,the same thing happened when every single Somali colonizer first arrived.

[Jaidi]

Seeing the repulsion and celebration regarding the Kenyan incursion framed from clan interests has made it quite clear why Somali regions were split up between so many different imperial interests. Easiest people to manipulate in the world. I'm sure the reactions were pretty similar in the 19th and 20 century as well

Its 20 yrs and by now every one know that somalis have always used foreign power to harm other somalis.
To refresh your brain USC and SNM used Ethiopian assistance to oust MSB govt.

PL ,SL always used Ethiopians to further their interest so did the Mogadishu warlords.

The peek was when A/Yusuf used Ethiopians to quell USC turned pseudo religious admin.

Then Did Sharif use AMISOM power to survive in Xamar.

So did Ahlu sufi use Ethiopian asssitance to dorminate other regions.

The bottom line was each one was acting on his self interest that was detrimental to other somalis.

So when other somalis who were lagging in appeasing foreign entities joined in the game people come here crying foul play in the name wadaninimo etc.

Wadaninimo was butchered in 1991 and hence there is no Somali state apart from everyone for himself and may the devil take the hind most.

Im not singling out your clan, this applies to all Somalis no matter who they are. That is why I'm bringing up history to show its not new and everyone is guilty.

[The_Patriot]

Do you also see how Shabaab a week ago were the most despised group today the same folks that cursed them and despised them are sympathing with them cos they see that a certain entity has stepped up the game.

[Jaidi]

Do you also see how Shabaab a week ago were the most despised group today the same folks that cursed them and despised them are sympathing with them cos they see that a certain entity has stepped up the game.

I've always repeated the same points, Im not opposing this out of clan hypocrisy I could care less. Me and bro Advo are genuine nationalists in our opposition to this. I also have an issue with AMISOM, and I have issues with the continued use of Ethiopians. Others seem like pretenders, but I never bought into any of these arguments.

AlShabaab can only be defeated by Somali forces and negotiation, anything else and you are fooling yourself.

[Jaidi]

Yup.

We have no alliegience to country, only clans. Our clanish mentality can be exploited pretty much by anyone that can pass a DUI test. I have seen grown man fight each other over clan bullsh!t on the street and when the 18 year old cadaan security guard came, they begged him and tried explain to him that the other clan was wrong but they wouldnt listen to each other

I don't give a fudge if alshabaab are stoning babies daily, no country should be allowed to invade our borders. They cheer and roar as if kenya/ethiopia would sacrifice their soldiers for our interest and wellbeings lol. I just had about enough of foriegners in Somalia, walaa AU forces, french/American drones, Ethies/Kenyans etc. They should all be kicked out.

A few months down the line and we will be vindicated again.

[The_Patriot]

Yup.

We have no alliegience to country, only clans. Our clanish mentality can be exploited pretty much by anyone that can pass a DUI test. I have seen grown man fight each other over clan bullsh!t on the street and when the 18 year old cadaan security guard came, they begged him and tried explain to him that the other clan was wrong but they wouldnt listen to each other

I don't give a fudge if alshabaab are stoning babies daily, no country should be allowed to invade our borders. They cheer and roar as if kenya/ethiopia would sacrifice their soldiers for our interest and wellbeings lol. I just had about enough of foriegners in Somalia, walaa AU forces, french/American drones, Ethies/Kenyans etc. They should all be kicked out.

A few months down the line and we will be vindicated again.

Jaidi it doesnt take one to figure out after 20 yrs about the enemy within.

If you bite me once shame on you but if you bite me the second time shame on me.

[XaliimoFarax]

It's amazing wallahi just few weeks ago I was asking myself this exact same Qs. How come Somalia was colonized by different countries at the same time and not just one country as usual other African countries. If you live long enough you live to see everything.

Yup.

We have no alliegience to country, only clans. Our clanish mentality can be exploited pretty much by anyone that can pass a DUI test. I have seen grown man fight each other over clan bullsh!t on the street and when the 18 year old cadaan security guard came, they begged him and tried explain to him that the other clan was wrong but they wouldnt listen to each other

I don't give a fudge if alshabaab are stoning babies daily, no country should be allowed to invade our borders. They cheer and roar as if kenya/ethiopia would sacrifice their soldiers for our interest and wellbeings lol. I just had about enough of foriegners in Somalia, walaa AU forces, french/American drones, Ethies/Kenyans etc. They should all be kicked out.

[UlteriorMotive]

This is what I found interesting recently as well.

Because clan politics is so primitive, adherents are predictable and can be manouvered for your own gains. Shabab (as well as outside countries) use clan when under pressure and discard it. You have to rate that. They are a level above your avarage Somali.

Facing increasing pressure in the capital and, in a bid to maintain its earlier battle momentum, Al-Shabaab began to receive reinforcements — mainly members of the Hawiye/Abgaal clan — from the central region of Galguduud. By deploying those fighters into Abgaal-populated areas, Abdi Aziz, Boondheere and Shangaani districts, Al-Shabaab had apparently resorted to clan dynamics in order to reverse its losses in those strategic districts.

..............In early 2010, Atom entered into indirect negotiations with the Puntland administration, through the mediation of Warsengeli clan elders. According to a source close to the negotiations, the Al-Shabaab leadership in Mogadishu sent emissaries to pressure Atom to break off the talks.5 One was Yasiin Kilwe, a Warsengeli associate of Shabaab emir Ahmed Abdi Godane, who was released in 2009 from prison in Hargeysa after having served a six-year prison term; another was reportedly Mohamud Mohamed Nur Faruur, a leading Al-Shabaab figure from the Habar Je’elo clan from eastern Toghdeer region.

In March 2010, Atom broke off the talks and resumed military preparations, including building a rough road between strategic locations in eastern Sanaag. Atom also continued to accumulate arms and ammunition.

[FAH1223]

This is why ideology always trumps clan

Al Shabab is strengthed by groups using ajnabi forces.

And yeah Somalis have to be the easiest group to control. We aren't like the Bantu in that we will automatically be subserviant. But those that do control Somalis gave them an illusion that they are some sort of King. As we all know, Every Somali thinks he is a sultan