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What kinda retard will think this minor port with almost no cargo containers on the Dock,is bigger and busier then the main port of Berbera which has dozens of cargo containers on its dock?
Bosaso port 2011

Berbera port September 2011

Idoor talk about Mogadishu port if you dare

abukar, search BBC english language portal and you may find some report they did on these two port cities. They concluded Bosaso is growing population-wise while Berbera is declining.

I don't know abour berbera but Bosaso port works 24 hour/7 (dayime import/night time export) days a week because it serves almost all southern Somalia. You can see vehicles going to Celasha Biyaha and livestock from Bay at any given day.

Without preconditions, one can do a simple research to find out these port's yearly volume. in 2010 Bosaso port exported 1.8 million male camels.

Both look terrible to me. It's like saying my mudul made out of cow dung is better than yours because it has more windows.

Depending on google earth to claim such nonsense? show some numbers/reports and then will take it seriously.

Warya,i did not say nothing about the population rates of both Berbera and Bosaso,rather i was talking about the ports and as you stated "Bosaso's port works 24 hours then how come it barely looks alive on that photo?
here's a list of The Port of Berbera's services and facilities

MAINTENANCE & REPAIRS

Port workshop available for minor repairs to vessel and equipments;

Workshop facilities include a machine shop; Lathes, Shaping machine, milling machine, drilling machine, welding, MAINTENANCE & REPAIRS

Port workshop available for minor repairs to vessel and equipments;

Workshop facilities include a machine shop; Lathes, Shaping machine, milling machine, drilling machine, welding, carpentry and electrical shops plus automobile repair and service facilities.

CARGO HANDLING EQUIPMENT

Mobile cranes:

5 units capacity ranging from 15 tons to 30 tons;

Forklift trucks:

9 units capacity ranging from 2.5 tons to 7.0 tons;




Top lift truck:

1 unit capacity 32 tons;

Tractor head:

High powered highway tractor head to haul 40ft-loaded containers.

Trailer:

6 units:

20ft long – 5 nos. 40ft long – 1 no.



PILOTAGE

Compulsory for vessels over 200 NRT, Pilot boards at outer anchorage. Sufficient numbers of pilots are available for services.

PORT SECURITY

Gangway watchmen posted around the clock. Police and Port Security on internal and perimeter duty twenty fours daily; Customs police personnel are also available 24 hours.

SAFETY

Trained fire fighting crews are available to prevent fire and fire fighting.

Tugboat with fire fighting nozzle;

Water tender: 2 nos.

Fire tender: 1 no.

Portable firefighting pumps 2 nos.

Water pumping station with pipeline network;

Fireboat with monitor (mixing sea water and foam);

Four types of fire fighting extinguishers – sufficient numbers;

CARGO HANDLING

Mobile cranes with pedestals are used to discharge tht General cargo / break bulk cargo if necessary or in case of.






Clearly the Berbera port looks more busier and has better facilities and services .

Blame Monkey Moses. If it were up to me, I would run those modafckas out of town. Bloody waste of space.

Blame Monkey Moses. If it were up to me, I would run those modafckas out of town. Bloody waste of space.

AbdiIsmail,

Lets not blame Ciise Muse. Its the culture of corruption which kills trade at Berbera port. The same is happening in Xamar. Bosaaso and Kismayo are the two cheapest places to offload cargo in Somalia. Their duties are the lowest, clearance is a breeze and you are on your way with your cargo.

Good luck with SL & TFG ports.

Corruption is everywhere lakiin it's their lack of interest in building and renovating the city (which I think is the most important in SL) and their obstruction of businesses coming in to revitalise the place. Lakiin I've got an axe to grind with them so don't mind me.

Blame Monkey Moses. If it were up to me, I would run those modafckas out of town. Bloody waste of space.

Of the 1.4 Billion dollar GDP of Djbouti, nearly 1billion is from their port activity.

Innovation is required to solve the problem of Taxing a somali. Instead of taxing the man directly spread that tax across other products/services he may require while he is on business.

Just don't call it a tax.

The busiest port in Somalia is Ceel Macaan and it doesn't even have a harbor, its just an open beach. Infrastructure means nothing if you have nothing to offer. No one except Ethiopians and a few Hargeysa clans use Berbera but all of Somalia and all the Somalis in Galbeed, even half of Somaliland uses Bosaso.

Monk,

Who would want to deal with bureaucracy and pay exorbitant duties and fees ? Anything run by government in Somalia is mismanaged and highly inefficient.

You gotta appreciate the business savyness of Reer Bari. Those guys have no match when it comes to conducting business. They are beyond professional when it comes to Business but in Politics in this Era Cade Musse iyo Jama Ali Jama is the best they got.

Thank God we have Reer Mudug for everything else.

That so bright Do the sheep just walk on

Monk,

Who would want to deal with bureaucracy and pay exorbitant duties and fees ? Anything run by government in Somalia is mismanaged and highly inefficient.

Abdiwahab, you're right.

According to a recent UN report:

Elevated import taxes imposed by Transitional Federal Government authorities, believed to be among the highest in the region, serve to aggravate the
problem. In early 2011, a dispute erupted between the Mogadishu port authorities and the Somali traders who objected to what they perceived to be excessive taxation and inefficiency of the port authorities. Consequently, many Somali traders avoid Mogadishu, preferring to discharge their cargoes at Kismaayo or other ports where import taxes are lower. For example, Mogadishu port authorities charge an import duty in the amount of $1,300 on a mid-size vehicle. At Kismaayo, Al-Shabaab charges only $200. Even if the transporter then wishes to deliver the vehicle to Mogadishu, it costs another $200, including driver fees, fuel and miscellaneous expenses, to drive the car from Kismaayo to Mogadishu.