SomaliLand, Puntland, Troops In Somalia

[AmalJaber]

I am Kenyan and i don't know much about the Internal Politics of Somalia; i've not lived in NEP/NFD. I read in this forum someoen saying that Somalind troops or Puntland troops are better than the KDF. I don't have facts so i can't rgue about that. My question is, why can't these "countries" send peacekeeping troops to "Somalia?" It would really help; what do you think?

[madara]

They are not "troops", they are militias. So it would be unwise to send a militia to the capital city of Somalia.

[waryaa]

They are not countries, just more stable parts within Somalia borders. Somaliland (north west) wants to secede and has nothing to do with the rest the country while Puntland (north east) is best described as a semi-autonomous region that is still flying Somali flag. And nope, they don't have more troops than Kenya. I think Shababs outgun and outnumber both of these enclaves' troops combined.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Puntland did station roughly 4,000 troops in Mogadishu and other parts of the south from 2004 to 2008. The conflict became known among political circles as "Puntland's Vietnam" which caused backlash back home for Puntland's political elite.

[Voltage]

Puntland did station roughly 4,000 troops in Mogadishu and other parts of the south from 2004 to 2008. The conflict became known among political circles as "Puntland's Vietnam" which caused backlash back home for Puntland's political elite.

And the one time Abdullahi Yusuf's mercenaries engaged in an independent firefight with a section of one of the many clans in the south, the Puntlanders had to run back to where they came from.

June 22, 2007

After days of skirmishes between Marehan and Majerteen sub-clan militias in the country's third-largest city, residents of Kismayo say heavy fighting erupted on Friday, killing and wounding dozens of people

After the battle, Majerteen soldiers withdrew from Kismayo to the town of Bulo Gadud, 35 kilometers away, leaving the city and its strategic port in the hands of the Marehan.

...

The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened. VOA has learned that Marehan troops entered Bulo Gadud on Friday and declared victory over the Majerteen sub-clan.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-1 ... 79347.html

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Its not easy running an empire from the Gulf of Aden to the Swahili coast.

[Voltage]

If they held any territory in between. Since leaving Puntland with Ethiopian logistics and protection and even after their placement in Baidoa around Abdullahi Yusuf all of them relying on the Ethiopian military garrison, those mercenaries hadn't seen any independent fighting until Kismaayo. I am not sure they would have passed reer Jalaf/Sacad in south Gaalkacyo if they had to move from Puntand to south.

[damu]

the thread was about Puntland & Somaliland troops!!

The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened.

injecting mareexaan into every topic will not make you relevant

[TheLoFather]

I am Kenyan and i don't know much about the Internal Politics of Somalia; i've not lived in NEP/NFD. I read in this forum someoen saying that Somalind troops or Puntland troops are better than the KDF. I don't have facts so i can't rgue about that. My question is, why can't these "countries" send peacekeeping troops to "Somalia?" It would really help; what do you think?

For me the question is why aren't the Kenyan troops and the A.U. troops (Uganda and Co.) have not gone to Somaliland and Puntland since bothe these entities are antagonist (just like al shabab )towards the Transitional Federal Government which they recognise as the legitimate authority in Somali and are supporting and defending.
Also why not go to all the other areas controlled by al shabab and other islamis groups such as ahlu sunna wa al jama'a?

The TFG and it's AMISOM master should control the whole country or none of it, if they're really sincere and honest about their mission.

You know in Iraq the coalition forces went out to the whole country every inch of it to stamp their authority no matter the level of resistence, like wise in Afghanistan, and in Bosnia and Kosovo too the EU and NATO did the same. WHY CANT the A.U.(Uganda and CO. and Kenya) do the same?

[AmalJaber]

I am Kenyan and i don't know much about the Internal Politics of Somalia; i've not lived in NEP/NFD. I read in this forum someoen saying that Somalind troops or Puntland troops are better than the KDF. I don't have facts so i can't rgue about that. My question is, why can't these "countries" send peacekeeping troops to "Somalia?" It would really help; what do you think?

For me the question is why aren't the Kenyan troops and the A.U. troops (Uganda and Co.) have not gone to Somaliland and Puntland since bothe these entities are antagonist (just like al shabab )towards the Transitional Federal Government which they recognise as the legitimate authority in Somali and are supporting and defending.
Also why not go to all the other areas controlled by al shabab and other islamis groups such as ahlu sunna wa al jama'a?

The TFG and it's AMISOM master should control the whole country or none of it, if they're really sincere and honest about their mission.

You know in Iraq the coalition forces went out to the whole country every inch of it to stamp their authority no matter the level of resistence, like wise in Afghanistan, and in Bosnia and Kosovo too the EU and NATO did the same. WHY CANT the A.U.(Uganda and CO. and Kenya) do the same?

I guess you are asking this question based more on Ideology rather than pragmatism. Having said that, Kenya has never been attacked by Puntland or Somalililand troops. Again, why exactly is a TFG soldier? Currently a unit of the KDF is fighting alongside the RasKamboni brigade; are these TFG troops? Remember when the Somalia president said that the KDF troops were not welcome; you know what the Commander of TFG forces that were working with KDF said? he said, that the views of the president were of a personal nature, "and did not reflect the views of the Somalia government."

Kenya is just fighting for self-defense.

[gurey25]

I am Kenyan and i don't know much about the Internal Politics of Somalia; i've not lived in NEP/NFD. I read in this forum someoen saying that Somalind troops or Puntland troops are better than the KDF. I don't have facts so i can't rgue about that. My question is, why can't these "countries" send peacekeeping troops to "Somalia?" It would really help; what do you think?

For me the question is why aren't the Kenyan troops and the A.U. troops (Uganda and Co.) have not gone to Somaliland and Puntland since bothe these entities are antagonist (just like al shabab )towards the Transitional Federal Government which they recognise as the legitimate authority in Somali and are supporting and defending.
Also why not go to all the other areas controlled by al shabab and other islamis groups such as ahlu sunna wa al jama'a?

The TFG and it's AMISOM master should control the whole country or none of it, if they're really sincere and honest about their mission.

You know in Iraq the coalition forces went out to the whole country every inch of it to stamp their authority no matter the level of resistence, like wise in Afghanistan, and in Bosnia and Kosovo too the EU and NATO did the same. WHY CANT the A.U.(Uganda and CO. and Kenya) do the same?

[Dudaaye]

The tribal autonomous regions SSDF Punthiopia and SNM Somalidiid

They are our political opponents. but Isha'Allah Mogadisho will rise again.

[Daanyerow]

Is she trolling or she is this much ignorant?

[waryaa]

The tribal autonomous regions SSDF Punthiopia and SNM Somalidiid

They are our political opponents. but Isha'Allah Mogadisho will rise again.

Dudaaye (know your country 101) Galkacyo hospitals alone save thousands of lives from civil-war ridden south every year. The north deserve to be appreciated for what it has been doning for the south throughout this civil-war era. Fyi, if two subclans fight in Cabudwaq, members from both sides end up in Galkacyo hospitals or @ Galkacyo airport in transit to Dubai/Nairobi. You lose your eye sight and your first stop is Garowe/Bosao. By the way, the best eye doctor in Puntland is from Cabudwaq and has two clinics in Garowe and Bosaso.

And they tell you the evil resides in the north!

[Cumar-Labasuul]

I think Alshabab is being overrated here, they can only fight against somali forces (TFG army pensioners) and the one time a well equiped forced fought them (Ethiopia) they ran with their tails between their legs. If a well organised somali force fought them with a good strategic plan then they would be wiped out.