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Midrigeez i know there were many ethnic wars in the 18 19 centuries many fought also because of religion But there is also something that has united centuries the Biher tigrayans and Tigrayans the first Christian Kings in Aksum than again Midrgees the Biher tigrayans are not all Muslims so what differenates them is merely just Ethnic differences since the Tigrayans are not Mixture of things.What about the ancient Sabean civilization of Aksum in Northern Ethiopia and Modern Eritrea

The only Time the tigrayans and biher tigrigna were united under one country was 16th century till 1892....1952 till 1991, and during the axumite Empire. and in all the biher tigrigna ended up ending that union. The tigrayans are agew/oromo + habesh... while the biher Tigrigna are a mix of Tigre/afar/saho and beja primarliy...Tigre being considered anceintly as beja, Tirgigna is a mix of Tigre + Ta bedawi + some afar/saho... The ethnic Group of Biher Tigrigna is called Ka-ba-sa Meaning to squeeze or to gather due to the continues migartion from all those thnic groups who were nomads to gather and settle in one area..another meaning is Kab-Asa asa is the word that indetify the beja ASA AND KAB is from so it means From the beja.. among the tigrigna some clans are saho, some are Tigre some are beja and some are even afars. In tigray there is no origin or Clan or ancestory you are recognised by the region so if kibaki goes and lives in tigray he becomes tigrayan after one generation. In eritrea Even the Biher Tigrigna have clans and mostly are related by ancestory to other eritrean ethnic group. Example I know Eritrean Tigrigna Christian who his 6th Grandfather is the same as a Bani amer Tigre who is muslim, Meaning that the Eritrean Christian Clan originally is Tigre Bani amer. you would find that the 3 provinces of Biher tigrigna are divided from 3 different Ethnic group, Hamaseen are mostly Tigre background, seraye are mostly Beja and Akele-Guzai are mix between afar/saho tigre and beja who became Tigrigna... The ancient City of aksum was in ethiopia while the axum Kingdom was mainly In eritrea, but before axum there was 2 Kingdoms which was exclusively In eritrea and are considered to be cradle for axum to become union. If Somali clan were to go to eritrea say 1000 years ago they would be known also as Biher Tigrigna and their clan name would be stay what it is 1000 years ago so everyone would know they are somali in origin.

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Midrigeez,

Of course the EPLF wanted Eritrean independence. My point was they didn’t want other parts of Ethiopia to break away ie. Tigray, Oromia. This is something the EPLF has always said. It could be for a number of reasons. First, Eritrea needed a partner in Addis Ababa to cosign their independence. If they tried to do it unilaterally they would not be recognized. And to make sure of that, Meles had no choice, since he depended on EPLF militarily and diplomatically first to capture Addis Ababa and second to fight against Oromo rebels. Remember capturing Addis Ababa was not the end of the story. 90% of Hararge, and large parts of Wallagga and Bale were controlled by the OLF. OLF was part of the Transitional Gov’t and had a 30 000 strong security force in Oromia in 1992. Meles needed help from Eritrea and Washington to neutralize that threat. In agreement with Washington, Eritrea sent tens of thousands of soldiers to help the TPLF take control of the rest of the country. But what goes around comes around, a couple years later in 1998 Eritrea was devastated by its own Frankenstein monster.

Midrigeez,

Of course the EPLF wanted Eritrean independence. My point was they didn’t want other parts of Ethiopia to break away ie. Tigray, Oromia. This is something the EPLF has always said. It could be for a number of reasons. First, Eritrea needed a partner in Addis Ababa to cosign their independence. If they tried to do it unilaterally they would not be recognized. And to make sure of that, Meles had no choice, since he depended on EPLF militarily and diplomatically first to capture Addis Ababa and second to fight against Oromo rebels. Remember capturing Addis Ababa was not the end of the story. 90% of Hararge, and large parts of Wallagga and Bale were controlled by the OLF. OLF was part of the Transitional Gov’t and had a 30 000 strong security force in Oromia in 1992. Meles needed help from Eritrea and Washington to neutralize that threat. In agreement with Washington, Eritrea sent tens of thousands of soldiers to help the TPLF take control of the rest of the country. But what goes around comes around, a couple years later in 1998 Eritrea was devastated by its own Frankenstein monster.

I agree with most of your Post except The OLF threat... OLF represented the largest Group in the horn yet menguistu only mobilised one division in the whole south ethiopia to counter them, that is less than 4000 to keep them under check. eplf upon Defeating the derg had many options to make sure they would Find a partner from ethiopia for that political seperation, the capture of addis was all eplf, the flanking of the derg troops through south sudan by 2 EPLF division even john garang was soo impressed he changed the trainers to Eritreans from 1993, I am not trying to disrespect the oromo but in the horn the habesh ethiopians know they only force that can stand up to them are somali's that is why they will try their best to weaken them and keep their population growth in check, The ONLF in 1991 were Properly the closest ally of The eplf with clear heart and intention, yes tplf was an ally but deep inside especially among eritreans alot were sick to hand over ethiopia to rule to them knowing their flip flop attitude and ill intention to eritrea over the ages, however america wouldn't have it to give onlf the throne and they weren't ready in leading a country so were the olf, what happened in 1998 was about bringing Eritrea into the Chaotic colonisation System that is roaming most of africa, take the natural resources create divisions among the population so an option to take eritrea by ethiopia is easier or create civil war , This is exactly what happened 40 years ago, we fought a war that wasn't about the border but about the survival of the eritrean state.

by 2000 Half a million Eritreans were in the front line while the Elite Divisions of Eritrea still haven't engaged in the war and were protecting the major cities against more than 1 million ethiopians and help from the west, Now they are trying to weaken the country and starve it with sanctions so they would have an easier time to attack it, The italian called Asmara the 1 million city meaning you need at least 1 million soldiers to sacrifise to get to its gate. I have cousins and uncles who were in the war and were shooting their machine guns for 3 days non stop to the point the metal of the machine guns were soo hot they had to switch to ak47 from the non stop waves from the ethiopians, Once they discovered maps among the pow of cities near the coasts and instruction how to police it when captured That boiled Every eritrean in the front.Alot of people claim the eritrean president is harsh there is a poverb in Eritrea " A satan that you know is better than an angel you don't know".

Yes its true the the Bihir Tigrignas have some beja in them but the point is that Civilazation of Aksum is something that both belonged to you and the Tigrayans eventhough back than both of you were polythestic believers because there was no christianity But midrigez despite the Cultural and ethnic diversity and differences between the Eritreans and the tigrayans Most eritreans i know clasify themselves as habeshas so there is a link But politcs and ancient rivalry allowed the two people to go their seperate ways Just like how Amhaarigna and Tigrinya went their own ways but people living next to each other and not trusting each other is bad and i know both TPLF and Eplf are responsible for that But bare in mind the late Emperor Haile sellesie destroyed Tigrayans from Ethiopia he plundered their villages killed raped their woman the Amhaaras were brutal also For the Eritreans.

As for Eritreans and their deal with melez in the early 90s well ofcourse they were thinking about their own interest and that was full separation no one could look in the future and for see Badme in 1998 but they stood their ground even though with heavy losses

You have a hard time following my posts. Firstly by 1992 Mengistu was in Zimbabwe. I was talking about the TGE period. In May 1991 when the regime collapsed, the OLF held territory in 3 different parts of the country. So its impossible for only one division to be deployed in an area stretching from Somali region to the Sudanese border. I think you’re talking about the Sudanese border region where EPLF was active, and you might have some knowledge of that region. But what about the OLF in eastern Ethiopia, from West Hararge to the the vast Gara Mullata mountains. Mengistus eastern command was based in Harar. These dudes singing songs of freedom used to give them a bloody nose.



I gotta run I'll finish my post later..But yea. Don’t talk about my daddys organization like that man. Its not cool.

Yes its true the the Bihir Tigrignas have some beja in them but the point is that Civilazation of Aksum is something that both belonged to you and the Tigrayans eventhough back than both of you were polythestic believers because there was no christianity But midrigez despite the Cultural and ethnic diversity and differences between the Eritreans and the tigrayans Most eritreans i know clasify themselves as habeshas so there is a link But politcs and ancient rivalry allowed the two people to go their seperate ways Just like how Amhaarigna and Tigrinya went their own ways but people living next to each other and not trusting each other is bad and i know both TPLF and Eplf are responsible for that But bare in mind the late Emperor Haile sellesie destroyed Tigrayans from Ethiopia he plundered their villages killed raped their woman the Amhaaras were brutal also For the Eritreans.

As for Eritreans and their deal with melez in the early 90s well ofcourse they were thinking about their own interest and that was full separation no one could look in the future and for see Badme in 1998 but they stood their ground even though with heavy losses

Axum Empire was a union of 5 kingdoms, Eritreans are more proud of the pre-axumite Kingdoms.. One in particular is the D'mt Kingdom where it was exclusively Eritrean, Many Eritreans see that as their True Reflective Kingdom... 1000 Years before anything in Ethiopia were considered a civilzation. The capital Matara still stands today with its ancient 3500 years old stele's, But its whats written on these stele that makes Every eritrean whether he is tigre tigrigna afar or saho or others proud in 2000 the ethiopian army tried to Blow up the stele with TNT but failed but upon reading the stele one can understand why it says something about the union of the Eritreans and explain their noble ancestory by defeating the invaders who were habesh and harrasing that land.

Axumite Empire was 80% Eritrean there was 5 kingdom union to Create axum.

1/ D'mt/Meder aga'zyan/Midri bahri (Tigrigna/Tigre/saho) Eritrea
2/ Adulite ( Saho/afars) Eritrea
3/Belzin (Beja/Tigre) Eritrea
4/ Djinn (Saho/Tigre on the coast) Eritrea
5/ North Ethiopia Habesh.

90% Of the trade was In eritrea.
the whole Army was Eritrean. (The whole Elite Axumite Army was of saho People That is why when THE FOUR KINGDOMS WENT TO WAR WITH THE NORTH ETHIOPIAN kINGDOM it took one day to finish the job)

2 kings represented The axumite Empire.

The axum King *Ethiopian
The bahri King * Eritrean (King of the 4 Eritrean Kingdoms)
4 Eritrean kingdoms had their own Kings. But the Bahri King is the Head.

In the sahaba Migartion the Eritrean King was Ashrem Al abher.. while the Ethiopian King name was Estifanos the second, a war erupted between the two and according to the sahaba narration the sahaba and daughter of the prophet prayed for victory for ashrem al abher. The battle of mereb was conducted with victory for the Eritrean king, according to Arabic Records qoreysh struck a deal with the ethiopian king to return the sahaba to arabia if he was to win, abdullah Bin zubair one of the sahaba Narrated that he offered to join the Eritrean king army but ashrem refused and told him this is our war you are our guests but went ahead and watched the battle and was in joy upon seeing ashrem abher victory. Ashrem became muslim later in his life according to his letter to the prophet pbuh, the prophet prayed for him and did an absent Jenaza, Do you think he prayed for King Estifanos???

so axum Empire was a union that had more internal troubles and war than peacetime, it collapsed when the Adulite king complained to the bahri king about the north ethiopian king invading his land and killing his people.That was the straw the broke the Union's back, shortly after axumite union fell and the north ethiopians went into a dark ages for 500 years till the za-agwe dynasty over then shortly after the amharic emerged, while the 4 Eritrean kingdoms continued under the beja confiderncy, That time the king title was the belzin beja Kings and went back and forward between the 4 kingdoms untill King isaac in the 16th century when the habesh invaded Eritrea again.

There is awakening In eritrea today about the habesh, Yes eritreans have been habesh influenced its normal after 500 years exposed to the culture, 500 Years ago the culture were compeletly different, In 1991 the word Habesh was taken off the eritrean Constitution and identity Classification. and not long ago The president said "Eritrea is for Eritreans and habesh Has got to go" Meaning that title doesn't belong to Eritrea we are Going back to our roots.

But Midrigeez the D'mt Kingdom might have been Exclusivly Eritrean as people and Ethnic groups but the kingdom was in Modern day Ethiopia the D'mt Kingdom was established in Ethiopia around 900 before Christ they were based around Yeha in northern Ethiopia it had good relations with the Yemenite Sabaean Kingdom. I agree though most of the trade was don in Modern Eritrea around the Coast Al xadara as the arabs say the Civilization is both something that belongs to you and the Highlanders but let me ask you a Question who do Eritreans hate more the Woyanes or Amhaaras?, You're older generation still speaks fluent Amhaarigna i have seen you're president speaking in Amhaarigna once i guess the new generation are all with the Tigrinya its understandable that you have been habeshisized the past Millennium or so and some of you're Community Consider them still habeshas.

You have a hard time following my posts. Firstly by 1992 Mengistu was in Zimbabwe. I was talking about the TGE period. In May 1991 when the regime collapsed, the OLF held territory in 3 different parts of the country. So its impossible for only one division to be deployed in an area stretching from Somali region to the Sudanese border. I think you’re talking about the Sudanese border region where EPLF was active, and you might have some knowledge of that region. But what about the OLF in eastern Ethiopia, from West Hararge to the the vast Gara Mullata mountains. Mengistus eastern command was based in Harar. These dudes singing songs of freedom used to give them a bloody nose.

I gotta run I'll finish my post later..But yea. Don’t talk about my daddys organization like that man. Its not cool.

I am following your posts, Im talking about 1990 and before, after that the bulk of the ethiopian army was wiped out in the north starting with the afabet battle in 1988, in 1990 90% of the ethiopian army was in eritrea and north ethiopia, while the olf had a symbolic contribution but from 1986 till 1990 The sh*t was going down in the north, even in 1991 when the northern town of sherero was in the hand of the derg the tplf couldn't free it it was the eplf that came and wiped the derg presence from there, The onlf was more active through the afar ethiopian territory, they were cutting off lines and harrasing the escape routes for the main ethiopian army. Don't get me wrong I like oromo but olf was not relaible at that time, hell even the tplf were hopeless in many of the battles. Search the meeting that happened between OLF AND EPLF in 1993 before the eritrean referndum, that was the time when meles was acting Funny and showing his True colours.

John garang was soo struck By the eritrean that he famously said" Eritrean Think differntly when it comes to war, while many Generals would think how long it would take to take a town, Eritreans think how many Men it will take" in 1991 in south sudan there was a town occupied by the spla, the north army surrounded it for 3 years and couldn't broke through, the eplf had to pass that town to enter the ethiopian territory, the spla being supported by mengistu refused, the eplf sent a message asking the spla this has nothing to do with their war with north and need to cross the town peacefully on route to addis, The high command of the spla refused and said arraogantly you can try, the north sudanese told the eritreans we have been trying for years no way through, at sunrise the eritreans pushed through and by midday they were using the spla communication equipment to speak with the high command from the spla the first thing the said through the radio was " what do you want us to do with your pow"?? " we are en route to addis so hurry up before the north sudanese relaise what happened here in the last 6 hours". Shortly after Garang said " Give me One eritrean division and i will take the whole of sudan in few weeks".

But Midrigeez the D'mt Kingdom might have been Exclusivly Eritrean as people and Ethnic groups but the kingdom was in Modern day Ethiopia the D'mt Kingdom was established in Ethiopia around 900 before Christ they were based around Yeha in northern Ethiopia it had good relations with the Yemenite Sabaean Kingdom. I agree though most of the trade was don in Modern Eritrea around the Coast Al xadara as the arabs say the Civilization is both something that belongs to you and the Highlanders but let me ask you a Question who do Eritreans hate more the Woyanes or Amhaaras?, You're older generation still speaks fluent Amhaarigna i have seen you're president speaking in Amhaarigna once i guess the new generation are all with the Tigrinya its understandable that you have been habeshisized the past Millennium or so and some of you're Community Consider them still habeshas.

d'mt was not in Ethiopia... The capital was Matara in central Eritrea, D'mt was Known as Mider Aga'zyan. lol stop reading ethiopian soruces Dude. Yeha was an outpost for the yemeni In habesh land.

D'mt Matara.






D'mt Qohito (second Major City)

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Qohaito is Believed to be the ancient Capital of Punt, Due to the discovery of many artifacts going back to 2500 B.c including what it seems as ancient egyptian pots/logs/Trade Logistics. So basically D'mt just Merged and Continued From Punt, you can see that half of the towns are saho/afar names those are older than other towns who were builded.

Midrigeez yeah i know it extended all the way to Eritrea but was the Kingdom not also found in Modern Day in Ethiopia my point is its part of both of you're heritages. Keep in mind the different Ethnic groups didn't live like modern days every one Moved from their ancestral homes to another place the bejas were from the central eritrea now and days can be found in Sudan
Thanks for the pictures i know there are ancient Cities in Eritrea that have historic signficances of the Ancient Kingdoms of Aksum.
But tell me why the Italians added Tigray region as part of Eritrea during the Colonialist era and also parts of Affarland how come you lost those land to Abyssinia if today the borders didn't change you could have subjected them to your rule

You have a hard time following my posts. Firstly by 1992 Mengistu was in Zimbabwe. I was talking about the TGE period. In May 1991 when the regime collapsed, the OLF held territory in 3 different parts of the country. So its impossible for only one division to be deployed in an area stretching from Somali region to the Sudanese border. I think you’re talking about the Sudanese border region where EPLF was active, and you might have some knowledge of that region. But what about the OLF in eastern Ethiopia, from West Hararge to the the vast Gara Mullata mountains. Mengistus eastern command was based in Harar. These dudes singing songs of freedom used to give them a bloody nose.

I gotta run I'll finish my post later..But yea. Don’t talk about my daddys organization like that man. Its not cool.

I am following your posts, Im talking about 1990 and before, after that the bulk of the ethiopian army was wiped out in the north starting with the afabet battle in 1988, in 1990 90% of the ethiopian army was in eritrea and north ethiopia, while the olf had a symbolic contribution but from 1986 till 1990 The sh*t was going down in the north, even in 1991 when the northern town of sherero was in the hand of the derg the tplf couldn't free it it was the eplf that came and wiped the derg presence from there, The onlf was more active through the afar ethiopian territory, they were cutting off lines and harrasing the escape routes for the main ethiopian army. Don't get me wrong I like oromo but olf was not relaible at that time, hell even the tplf were hopeless in many of the battles. Search the meeting that happened between OLF AND EPLF in 1993 before the eritrean referndum, that was the time when meles was acting Funny and showing his True colours.

John garang was soo struck By the eritrean that he famously said" Eritrean Think differntly when it comes to war, while many Generals would think how long it would take to take a town, Eritreans think how many Men it will take" in 1991 in south sudan there was a town occupied by the spla, the north army surrounded it for 3 years and couldn't broke through, the eplf had to pass that town to enter the ethiopian territory, the spla being supported by mengistu refused, the eplf sent a message asking the spla this has nothing to do with their war with north and need to cross the town peacefully on route to addis, The high command of the spla refused and said arraogantly you can try, the north sudanese told the eritreans we have been trying for years no way through, at sunrise the eritreans pushed through and by midday they were using the spla communication equipment to speak with the high command from the spla the first thing the said through the radio was " what do you want us to do with your pow"?? " we are en route to addis so hurry up before the north sudanese relaise what happened here in the last 6 hours". Shortly after Garang said " Give me One eritrean division and i will take the whole of sudan in few weeks".

Excerpts from: Evil days: Thirty years of war and famine in Ethiopia By Alexander De Waal, Human Rights Watch (Organization)





http://books.google.ca/books?id=RcVFXUw ... LF&f=false

Who sold or provided the weapon (especially the artillary) to eritrea?

If only I had those weapons. Even world war II tanks and artillery is enough to destroy the Tigray aggressors.

Midrigeez yeah i know it extended all the way to Eritrea but was the Kingdom not also found in Modern Day in Ethiopia my point is its part of both of you're heritages. Keep in mind the different Ethnic groups didn't live like modern days every one Moved from their ancestral homes to another place the bejas were from the central eritrea now and days can be found in Sudan
Thanks for the pictures i know there are ancient Cities in Eritrea that have historic signficances of the Ancient Kingdoms of Aksum.
But tell me why the Italians added Tigray region as part of Eritrea during the Colonialist era and also parts of Affarland how come you lost those land to Abyssinia if today the borders didn't change you could have subjected them to your rule

In Regards to Ethiopia Heritage Then D'mt No...Aksum 20% yes in Ethiopia.. Punt No Because Punt was Red Sea Afar/saho Kingdom (Possibly Early somali's but they Must have Lived Closer to Eritrea and Djbouti Than now).

The italian Added Tigray Because They wanted to colonise Ethiopia.. They Did colonise Them from 1936-1941 According to the Berlin Colonisation Commitee meaning Ethiopia was part of Italy, Tigray was Joined To eritrea because The tigrayans Invited that Solution, Eritreans at that time like somali Didn't really have much to say about what happens, The border is the most Clear Border In all africa since the Sheba Days... the two Countries ARE seperated By a river all the way to Afar (Mereb River) and then the 2 Afar groups Are seperated By their "Qabil" Territory The red Sea afars Eritreans and djbouti and the asaiyta Afars who are Ethiopians. Afar Land is Complicated.. Technically The whole Eritrea is Afarland Because they are the first settlers, The ethiopian afar Area's are disputed According to the red sea afars, Depending on the clans most Red sea afars Claim they are not Originally Afars but Afarised if you like, The area deep inside Afar Ethiopia is more of Afar Influence Area's Rather than their Ancient Home, So when the Struggle Began For Eritrea in the 1950's The sultan of the red sea afars who Joined The struggle in the 1950's Called for the red sea afar proper Land to be freed From the habesh, All land occupied By the red sea afar to be Liberated From Ethiopia and joining one entity with Eritrea, Just like D'mt,Punt,axum Sea Kingdoms and The beja confiderncy Times, The red sea afars are very Oral awared People and they know from messages passed from generation to generation how the habesh Ethiopians are.. They feed you sweets at the start then make you drink your People Blood later. That is why when the Ethiopian Afars tried to call for the red sea afars to join them the red sea afars Sultan basically told them to ( Piss Off).

The reason the red sea afars Like To be called Eritreans is because They are the ancient Eritreans, also unlike the afars in Ethiopia who till now lost 30% of their Land to the Tigray province especially the arable land the afar area in Eritrea is for afar people, the clan cheifs and sultans have the authority for land distibute, If you are not Afar you can not claim any land in there to build Unless authorised not by the government but by the local Cheif, so Afar land in Eritrea is autonomised To the afar people. Just like the beja confiderncy and the axum sea kingdom days, you govern your people and land But Eritrea Comes First. That is why as well Many somali From djbouti (issa) Don't know that when they Insult the afar in Djbouti alot of Eritreans Gets Upset while the ethiopian afar are quiet It is because they are also the same red sea Afars as Eritrean.

You have a hard time following my posts. Firstly by 1992 Mengistu was in Zimbabwe. I was talking about the TGE period. In May 1991 when the regime collapsed, the OLF held territory in 3 different parts of the country. So its impossible for only one division to be deployed in an area stretching from Somali region to the Sudanese border. I think you’re talking about the Sudanese border region where EPLF was active, and you might have some knowledge of that region. But what about the OLF in eastern Ethiopia, from West Hararge to the the vast Gara Mullata mountains. Mengistus eastern command was based in Harar. These dudes singing songs of freedom used to give them a bloody nose.

I gotta run I'll finish my post later..But yea. Don’t talk about my daddys organization like that man. Its not cool.

I am following your posts, Im talking about 1990 and before, after that the bulk of the ethiopian army was wiped out in the north starting with the afabet battle in 1988, in 1990 90% of the ethiopian army was in eritrea and north ethiopia, while the olf had a symbolic contribution but from 1986 till 1990 The sh*t was going down in the north, even in 1991 when the northern town of sherero was in the hand of the derg the tplf couldn't free it it was the eplf that came and wiped the derg presence from there, The onlf was more active through the afar ethiopian territory, they were cutting off lines and harrasing the escape routes for the main ethiopian army. Don't get me wrong I like oromo but olf was not relaible at that time, hell even the tplf were hopeless in many of the battles. Search the meeting that happened between OLF AND EPLF in 1993 before the eritrean referndum, that was the time when meles was acting Funny and showing his True colours.

John garang was soo struck By the eritrean that he famously said" Eritrean Think differntly when it comes to war, while many Generals would think how long it would take to take a town, Eritreans think how many Men it will take" in 1991 in south sudan there was a town occupied by the spla, the north army surrounded it for 3 years and couldn't broke through, the eplf had to pass that town to enter the ethiopian territory, the spla being supported by mengistu refused, the eplf sent a message asking the spla this has nothing to do with their war with north and need to cross the town peacefully on route to addis, The high command of the spla refused and said arraogantly you can try, the north sudanese told the eritreans we have been trying for years no way through, at sunrise the eritreans pushed through and by midday they were using the spla communication equipment to speak with the high command from the spla the first thing the said through the radio was " what do you want us to do with your pow"?? " we are en route to addis so hurry up before the north sudanese relaise what happened here in the last 6 hours". Shortly after Garang said " Give me One eritrean division and i will take the whole of sudan in few weeks".

Excerpts from: Evil days: Thirty years of war and famine in Ethiopia By Alexander De Waal, Human Rights Watch (Organization)





http://books.google.ca/books?id=RcVFXUw ... LF&f=false

Well It seems Like the OLF were actually doing abit more than i thought.. Thanks for the Info.. But Still they didn't Face 200,000 Ethiopian Soldiers Like The eplf did by 1988, I never denied the contribution of olf to the war, all i said is the oromo people for the numbers they have could've removed the derg long time ago.