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Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:59 pm
by MidriGeez
Who sold or provided the weapon (especially the artillary) to eritrea?
If only I had those weapons. Even world war II tanks and artillery is enough to destroy the Tigray aggressors.
Mainly the arabs (Mostly Money not weapons though).. But most were Ethiopian weapons which was captured, Most of the time the eritreans would bribe or sent a commando unit to take a warehouse full of ethiopian weapons, sometimes they would bribe the ethiopian poorly paid soldiers to unload the weapons from the warehouse, and sometimes they would have spies working under ethiopian army and when the time comes take over the warehouse and invite the eplf lorries to load up. Eritrean During the war was under arms embargo if you believe it or not, lol so any weapons eritreans got was directly from sudan or Somalia (During Barre Regime).
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:36 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Why is it the arabs will provide assistance to eritrea but when it comes to Somalia, they assist our enemies. Alshabaab, kenya, ethiopia? Everyone is scared of Somalia rising.
BTW, what is the attitude towards Somalia and somalis in eritrea? If a somali army wanted to take ethiopia from the West, would it be allowed to pass through eritrea?
Hypothetical question of course. 
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:16 am
by MidriGeez
Why is it the arabs will provide assistance to eritrea but when it comes to Somalia, they assist our enemies. Alshabaab, kenya, ethiopia? Everyone is scared of Somalia rising.
BTW, what is the attitude towards Somalia and somalis in eritrea? If a somali army wanted to take ethiopia from the West, would it be allowed to pass through eritrea?
Hypothetical question of course. 
I think The arabs helped Eritrea mainly Because the muslims who first Uprised against ethiopia in the 1960's were mostly muslims and sold Eritrea as a close Cultural and related People to the arabs, Plus adding things like Land of the sahaba, the place where The prophet pbuh and his daughter rwa and the sahaba Lived,Blessed or died can Have a few pull emotionally among the arabs. Even today most of the eritrean ambassadors in arab countries and the forign minister is Muslim to keep the support Going. The somali People had a very bad marketing System, Somali and arabs are different, Both are kind with big hearts however the arabs like to hear what they want to hear so you cheat them and make them hear what they want to hear, the somali are more straight forward with no shame attitute so we can see how the first problem occurs, somali telling the arabs WE ARE NOT ARABS AND NEVER WAS NO GIVE US HELP,lol this won't work with teh arabs they have this pride you see, lol Eritreans are more cunning and shifty Isaias afwerki who is Christian made them believe that Eritreans are some sort of a lost arab tribe at the end of the 1980's loool
Eritrea Attitude Towards somalia never changed, It was one of only 3 countries that acknowledged Eritrean struggle and supported the liberation since day one. (The other is sudan and egypt), Helped Eritrea with Militarily Hardware at some point and even gave alot of Eritreans Somali passports so they can travel and seek more funds/help. If Somalia would to attack Ethiopia and the heat is off Eritrea unlike today, Not only it will let somali pass through their land they might even Join. Among Normal Eritreans Somali are probarly one of the most favourite People because I think Eritreans understand Somali alot, and Somali have a unique way of doing things which Cracks Eritreans up, Till this day the top 3 Funny thing that happened In the city i am living by any african is by far by somali's Hahahahaa. The only problem i Find with somali is sometimes they have No shame, Meaning in normal life it is funny but sometimes when applied Their discrimination against other somali because of their qabil Their no shame straight forward attitute Hurt each other feelings alot, More than you expect... Eritreans would lie to concile or Fix problems.. maybe because eritreans can't afford it.
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:05 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Why is it the arabs will provide assistance to eritrea but when it comes to Somalia, they assist our enemies. Alshabaab, kenya, ethiopia? Everyone is scared of Somalia rising.
BTW, what is the attitude towards Somalia and somalis in eritrea? If a somali army wanted to take ethiopia from the West, would it be allowed to pass through eritrea?
Hypothetical question of course. 
I think The arabs helped Eritrea mainly Because the muslims who first Uprised against ethiopia in the 1960's were mostly muslims and sold Eritrea as a close Cultural and related People to the arabs, Plus adding things like Land of the sahaba, the place where The prophet pbuh and his daughter rwa and the sahaba Lived,Blessed or died can Have a few pull emotionally among the arabs. Even today most of the eritrean ambassadors in arab countries and the forign minister is Muslim to keep the support Going. The somali People had a very bad marketing System, Somali and arabs are different, Both are kind with big hearts however the arabs like to hear what they want to hear so you cheat them and make them hear what they want to hear, the somali are more straight forward with no shame attitute so we can see how the first problem occurs, somali telling the arabs WE ARE NOT ARABS AND NEVER WAS NO GIVE US HELP,lol this won't work with teh arabs they have this pride you see, lol Eritreans are more cunning and shifty Isaias afwerki who is Christian made them believe that Eritreans are some sort of a lost arab tribe at the end of the 1980's loool
Eritrea Attitude Towards somalia never changed, It was one of only 3 countries that acknowledged Eritrean struggle and supported the liberation since day one. (The other is sudan and egypt), Helped Eritrea with Militarily Hardware at some point and even gave alot of Eritreans Somali passports so they can travel and seek more funds/help. If Somalia would to attack Ethiopia and the heat is off Eritrea unlike today, Not only it will let somali pass through their land they might even Join. Among Normal Eritreans Somali are probarly one of the most favourite People because I think Eritreans understand Somali alot, and Somali have a unique way of doing things which Cracks Eritreans up, Till this day the top 3 Funny thing that happened In the city i am living by any african is by far by somali's Hahahahaa. The only problem i Find with somali is sometimes they have No shame, Meaning in normal life it is funny but sometimes when applied Their discrimination against other somali because of their qabil Their no shame straight forward attitute Hurt each other feelings alot, More than you expect... Eritreans would lie to concile or Fix problems.. maybe because eritreans can't afford it.
I think I get what you mean when you say somalis don't have shame, what you mean is they don't have tact or diplomacy. We definitely have shame. We're not very good when it comes to RealPolitik and being sly except maybe when it concerns our clans. Qabiil is a huge problem for the somalis and we have to overcome it. It's embarrassing when a xabashi can share country among different ethnic groups while we are still squabbling over qabiil.
Where did you buy the weapons, from eastern europe? Do you have any data on the weapons used by eritrea forcesd during the war?
Look at me, it sound like I'm gonna start a war.

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:28 pm
by Khalid Ali
Midrigeez Somalis are semi Arabs we can swing both ways Arabs expect us mostly to be Arabs but Somalis will always we are not Arabs but Islam Unites us since Somalis are 100% Suni Muslims. By the Way its not All Tribes that are straight forwards the Nomadic Tribes are most of the time straight forwards when it comes to Clanism while Agricultural Somalis are not Like that at all.
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:50 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Midrigeez Somalis are semi Arabs we can swing both ways Arabs expect us mostly to be Arabs but Somalis will always we are not Arabs but Islam Unites us since Somalis are 100% Suni Muslims. By the Way its not All Tribes that are straight forwards the Nomadic Tribes are most of the time straight forwards when it comes to Clanism while Agricultural Somalis are not Like that at all.
Bro, we're not arabs ee hadaba stop that shit it's embarrassing.

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:51 pm
by Khalid Ali
Midrigeez Somalis are semi Arabs we can swing both ways Arabs expect us mostly to be Arabs but Somalis will always we are not Arabs but Islam Unites us since Somalis are 100% Suni Muslims. By the Way its not All Tribes that are straight forwards the Nomadic Tribes are most of the time straight forwards when it comes to Clanism while Agricultural Somalis are not Like that at all.
Bro, we're not arabs ee hadaba stop that shit it's embarrassing.

We are Arabs man embrace your Arab Identity Abdi Ismail

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:11 pm
by samatar133
when Eritrea got independence Saudi Arabia prepared textbooks consisting primary upto secondary in all subjects in arabic for Erittean education and eritrea refuced to take it

. A whole ship currying those books was dumbed into somaliland in 1993, qashinkoodu meelkasta ayuu daadsanaa maqaaxiyaha ayaa afmaris ahaan u bixin jiray

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:46 pm
by luis1
The onlf was more active through the afar ethiopian territory, they were cutting off lines and harrasing the escape routes for the main ethiopian army. Don't get me wrong I like oromo but olf was not relaible at that time
ONLF(Ogaden National Liberation Front) was inactive in 1990.ONLF began its war against Ethiopia in 1994.
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:47 pm
by luis1
The onlf was more active through the afar ethiopian territory, they were cutting off lines and harrasing the escape routes for the main ethiopian army. Don't get me wrong I like oromo but olf was not relaible at that time
ONLF(Ogaden National Liberation Front) was inactive in 1990.ONLF began its war against Ethiopia in 1994.
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:49 pm
by Khalid Ali
luis cuba didn't defeat shit they were beaten u are living on a dream u dont even believe you're own lies you spew on here that's why u need some one to confirm Whether ur telling the truth or not get the hell out of here you insecure bitch , Cuba was destroyed.
Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:23 pm
by luis1
You are very funny,please show me sources which prove that Somalia won Ogaden War.
Check out these sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogaden_War
http://www.acig.info/CMS/?option=com_co ... &Itemid=47
[quote]In 1978, Barre attacked Ethiopia,
seeking to incorporate the ethnically Somali Ogadeen region of Ethiopia into
Somalia.Somalia’s defeat in this war resulted in a large number of Barresupporting
Ogadeni Somalis fleeing Ethiopia and resettling in the Isaaqdominated
northwest. The defeat also undermined popular support for the
government itself, a threat that Barre reacted to by cultivating the allegiance of
the large Darood clan, of which he was a member.[/quote]
http://journalofinternationalservice.or ... hkeF11.pdf
Now show me your sources which prove Somalia won the war,I am sure you will not find anything.

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:46 am
by MidriGeez
Why is it the arabs will provide assistance to eritrea but when it comes to Somalia, they assist our enemies. Alshabaab, kenya, ethiopia? Everyone is scared of Somalia rising.
BTW, what is the attitude towards Somalia and somalis in eritrea? If a somali army wanted to take ethiopia from the West, would it be allowed to pass through eritrea?
Hypothetical question of course. 
I think The arabs helped Eritrea mainly Because the muslims who first Uprised against ethiopia in the 1960's were mostly muslims and sold Eritrea as a close Cultural and related People to the arabs, Plus adding things like Land of the sahaba, the place where The prophet pbuh and his daughter rwa and the sahaba Lived,Blessed or died can Have a few pull emotionally among the arabs. Even today most of the eritrean ambassadors in arab countries and the forign minister is Muslim to keep the support Going. The somali People had a very bad marketing System, Somali and arabs are different, Both are kind with big hearts however the arabs like to hear what they want to hear so you cheat them and make them hear what they want to hear, the somali are more straight forward with no shame attitute so we can see how the first problem occurs, somali telling the arabs WE ARE NOT ARABS AND NEVER WAS NO GIVE US HELP,lol this won't work with teh arabs they have this pride you see, lol Eritreans are more cunning and shifty Isaias afwerki who is Christian made them believe that Eritreans are some sort of a lost arab tribe at the end of the 1980's loool
Eritrea Attitude Towards somalia never changed, It was one of only 3 countries that acknowledged Eritrean struggle and supported the liberation since day one. (The other is sudan and egypt), Helped Eritrea with Militarily Hardware at some point and even gave alot of Eritreans Somali passports so they can travel and seek more funds/help. If Somalia would to attack Ethiopia and the heat is off Eritrea unlike today, Not only it will let somali pass through their land they might even Join. Among Normal Eritreans Somali are probarly one of the most favourite People because I think Eritreans understand Somali alot, and Somali have a unique way of doing things which Cracks Eritreans up, Till this day the top 3 Funny thing that happened In the city i am living by any african is by far by somali's Hahahahaa. The only problem i Find with somali is sometimes they have No shame, Meaning in normal life it is funny but sometimes when applied Their discrimination against other somali because of their qabil Their no shame straight forward attitute Hurt each other feelings alot, More than you expect... Eritreans would lie to concile or Fix problems.. maybe because eritreans can't afford it.
I think I get what you mean when you say somalis don't have shame, what you mean is they don't have tact or diplomacy. We definitely have shame. We're not very good when it comes to RealPolitik and being sly except maybe when it concerns our clans. Qabiil is a huge problem for the somalis and we have to overcome it. It's embarrassing when a xabashi can share country among different ethnic groups while we are still squabbling over qabiil.
Where did you buy the weapons, from eastern europe? Do you have any data on the weapons used by eritrea forcesd during the war?
Look at me, it sound like I'm gonna start a war.

Yeah you know what i mean.. No shame as in No Diplomacy Or Irrational attitute when Discussing something Sensitive, The problem was with Little Kids, In school i remember somali's from different qabil wouldn't even play on the same side because of what their parents Tells them at home, Imagine a 12 yrs old kid refusing to play with another somali on the team because he is from different qabil, we were just kids back then.
The habesh share a country with others because they find the only thing that is common with other ethnic groups and use that to try to live together, while the somali find the only thing that is different to divide among themselves. Land/Religion/Culture/ancestory/Language are the same with somali's whatever happens its easier to bring them back together, That is why People who wish somali ill wants to seperate somali so they can try to put more wedge between the people there. But sometimes God do Test and remind his Slaves so they can appreciate allah swt and the better times he gave them before,
Eritrea mainly got their weapons From arab countries and Ethiopian army capturing the weapons, in the early days countries like iraq and egypt were the main suppliers, Then somalia and Sudan had a turn, after the ogaden war the other arab countries supported with money countries like saudia arabia/qatar while with the money weapons were purchased from many countries including China But all weapons were light or medium, large weapons like tanks and Rocket launchers were all capyured from the ethiopians, roughly 60% of the weapons by the end of the war were all ethiopians captured in battles.
I will Find out for you exactly what weapons were used during the whole war with Ethiopia, including the Eritrean modified Sniper ak47's.

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am
by MidriGeez
Midrigeez Somalis are semi Arabs we can swing both ways Arabs expect us mostly to be Arabs but Somalis will always we are not Arabs but Islam Unites us since Somalis are 100% Suni Muslims. By the Way its not All Tribes that are straight forwards the Nomadic Tribes are most of the time straight forwards when it comes to Clanism while Agricultural Somalis are not Like that at all.
Exactly My point.. somali can swing both ways Because of the closeness to arab countries But they are not arabs, But swinging against the arabs can mess with their feelings, telling them they are arabs one day and not the next day can push alot of their buttons. I saw few months ago on al jazeera a high onlf commander/leader plea to the arabs that ogadeni are arabs too and are one of the last two arab people occupied (the other is palestinian), Many Non arab people obviously laughed, The ethiopian habesh didn't and were really upset, Because they knew the onlf were moving towards Eritrean direction Years ago to get assistance and when arab helps there is no limit, they are very emotinal driven people the more you show them of the plight of Ogadeni suffering and headline it under ogadeni Arabs tortured and Rape and show a girl with hijab and an old man with bruises watch out this is very serious Steps and Ethiopian like meles know that because he was in Eritrea sahel region saw how that worked for eritreans, No wonder he kicked out al jazeera and banned it from Ethiopia few days after.lol
I am not sure about somali Attitude and difference between the Nomads and Agriculture somali but i guess that is why i am here.

Re: article 39 of Ethiopian Constitution.
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:04 am
by MidriGeez
The onlf was more active through the afar ethiopian territory, they were cutting off lines and harrasing the escape routes for the main ethiopian army. Don't get me wrong I like oromo but olf was not relaible at that time
ONLF(Ogaden National Liberation Front) was inactive in 1990.ONLF began its war against Ethiopia in 1994.
That is what the Ethiopian will tell you.. Onlf was active since the 80's Militarily, I have Many relatives who fought alongside them by the end of the 80's and some even Inside Eritrea, ONLF as an organisation is probarly as old as EPLF, however they didn't have a military Wing Till sometime after the ogadeni war. in the 1980's ONLF leaders were constantly on meetings with the Eplf leaders In sahel region. Some Eritreans even say That article 39 was constructed with the Consultation of the Onlf.