Sh.Shariif aligned with Shariif Hassan.

[zingii]

Although dude got sacked here he is sitting and chillin with Sh.Shariif.
He should not have been invited to the meeting since his legitimacy
as a speaker is questionable.

[Abdihaliim]

[Shirib]

There is no legal framework to get rid of Shariif Hassan. Those MP's are on crack.

[zingii]

There is no legal framework to get rid of Shariif Hassan. Those MP's are on crack.

The speaker was out of the country and did not
open the parliment for quite sometime.
His assistant, the next in command of the
parliment was not present aswell for reasons
unknown.

Third in command of the parliment opened/chaired
the session legalizing it for the MP's to hold their meeting.
The MP's then sacked the speaker with majority vote.

This means the chain of command was followed and no rule
was broken by the MP's who sacked the speaker.

[Shirib]

There is no legal framework to get rid of Shariif Hassan. Those MP's are on crack.

The speaker was out of the country and did not
open the parliment for quite sometime.
His assistant, the next in command of the
parliment was not present aswell for reasons
unknown.

Third in command of the parliment opened/chaired
the session legalizing it for the MP's to hold their meeting.
The MP's then sacked the speaker with majority vote.

This means the chain of command was followed and no rule
was broken by the MP's who sacked the speaker.

U can't call a random meeting without proper procedure. The speaker, nor the deputy speaker were even informed that these guys were gonna hold a meeting. How do u justify that?

[zingii]

The justification is of their refusal to open the parliment when requested by the MP's on many occasions.

[Shirib]

The justification is of their refusal to open the parliment when requested by the MP's on many occasions.

and where do u have the evidence for that? Is there any record of parliamentarians asking for Parliament to be opened and the Speaker refusing it? Or is this just the chitter chatter that the MP's are running.

[zingii]

For goodness sake the guy kept traveling to abroad while presenting the
rest of the parliment though the did not approve of many of the dealings concerning the country he was involved in.

[XimanJaale]

Shirib,

The process of Shariiff Hassan's oust was done in the correct procedure. In the TFG constitutions, to have a motions against the Speaker 2/3 of the parliament have to vote, the vice-speaker or 2nd vice-speaker has to be present. All of those catorgies occured. Please read the transistional constitution, look at number 38.

[zingii]

His last visit to Italy when he got sacked, they sent a message after him to the Italian government stating that he was not presenting them and that they should not discuss matters concerning Somalia with him.

[XimanJaale]

Part 38 of the Somali transistional constitution:

QODOBKA 38
HOWL SOCODSIINTA GOLAHA
1. Fadhiyada Golaha waxaa guddoominaya:
a) Gudoomiyaha
b) Mid ka mid ah ku xigeenada haddii Gudoomiyaha maqan yahay/ amase
c) Xubin Golahu doorto haddii Guddoomiyaha iyo ku xigeenadiisu maqan yihiin.

[Shirib]

Ximaan,

That might be correct in regular terms, but that is super ceded by the Kampala agreement. The agreement said neither the President nor Speaker can get sacked before time is up. Parliament approved that agreement. They can't turn around after their term got extended and all and then try to sack the President. A government that can't abide by its own treaties will not be trusted elsewhere. The legal framework for dismissing Shariif is not there after the Kampala agreement.

[XimanJaale]

Ximaan,

That might be correct in regular terms, but that is super ceded by the Kampala agreement. The agreement said neither the President nor Speaker can get sacked before time is up. Parliament approved that agreement. They can't turn around after their term got extended and all and then try to sack the President. A government that can't abide by its own treaties will not be trusted elsewhere. The legal framework for dismissing Shariif is not there after the Kampala agreement.

The Kampala Accord does not state that president or speaker cannnot get sacked. Even if it does, it will contradict the law of the country. Kampala Accord was a peace agreement not a rule of law.

Kampala Accord=Nothing

Shariff Hassan was sacked according to the law of the country (Transistional Consititution).

[Faant]

Farmajoo as our president in 2012

[barakaboy10]

Ximaan,

That might be correct in regular terms, but that is super ceded by the Kampala agreement. The agreement said neither the President nor Speaker can get sacked before time is up. Parliament approved that agreement. They can't turn around after their term got extended and all and then try to sack the President. A government that can't abide by its own treaties will not be trusted elsewhere. The legal framework for dismissing Shariif is not there after the Kampala agreement.

The Kampala Accord does not state that president or speaker cannnot get sacked. Even if it does, it will contradict the law of the country. Kampala Accord was a peace agreement not a rule of law.

Kampala Accord=Nothing

Shariff Hassan was sacked according to the law of the country (Transistional Consititution).

i wouldn't expect less than this from you because the Kampala accord kicked your uncle out of office for reasons that were right.

you can't rewrite history with a single pen. the Kampala accord clearly stated that no one---i am talking about the top three posts---can bring motion nor none of them, in any way, can be forced out from office until august of 2012. these thugs whom you call MP's should have paid more attention to that deal and shouldn't have never approved it in the first place. it is too late for them and Shariif Hassan has the law and the international community on his side. and that's all what matters.

furthermore, there's already a planned reduction in MPs and many of these thugs would lose their jobs soon anyway.