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Failed Politician of 2011

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Failed Politician of 2011

Poll ended at Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:30 pm

Xassan daahir aweys
7
29%
Faarmaajo
15
63%
Barre hiiraale
2
8%
 
Total votes: 24

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby Based » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:18 am

You're blinding yourself to the truth.

The misplaced anger consistently displayed towards the Sade sub-clan by the general public is unprecedented and frankly unwarranted. I have finally understood what Horace meant when he wrote: Quae caret ora cruore nostro?

Like I said before, the SADL promotes an atmosphere in which snetizens can proliferate their pro-Sade beliefs without being molested by malcontented ingrates. The tumaal, boring Hawiye yar yar, and the Leelkase are free to join the SADL. We are accommodating of all groups and clans, unless they are in conflict with our core objective of Sade suprema...I mean anti defamation.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby Shirib » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:20 am

Shirib, your documented antisadestism is especially troubling in light of your status as a moderator. As for your comment, saying that the secessionist entity is the most successful region of Somalia is like saying the upper rings of hell aren't as horrible as the lower rings. Somaliland has placed itself in political limbo with its refusal to negotiate with the rest of Somalia, and the International Community does not seem to be granting recognition any time soon. Like I've said countless times before, I'm a supporter of self-determination for all people, but if SL isn't recognized despite 20 years of anarchy, famine, terrorism, and piracy in the rest of Somalia, the chances of recognition in the near future are slim to none. If we're measuring success politically (this thread is about politics, not peace or stability), I don't see how you can say they've been the most successful despite not reaching their stated objective of independence. I genuinely think that an independent Somaliland would be more beneficial to Somalia than an uneasy confederation forced upon us by outside groups, but convince the International Community of that :up:

As for Farmaajo, there's nothing I can say without claims of clan bias. Despite being probably the only Somali politician for the last twenty years to not either have blood on his hands or be in the pocket of foreign powers, you're going to most likely claim that I am biased in favor of my "uncle".

@Union, you're thinking too small. I call for the immediate crucifixion of all members of parliament 8-)
Please show me of my antisadism that is well documented.

Despite them not being successful in their recognition they are the most successful of all the other entities in Somalia as it stands today.

I think Farmaajo was a standup guy but he was in the TFG for god sakes and the story is always the same there regardless of the players. But he's out of Somali politics now, so I don't see how he can not be considered a failure. He lasted less than a year. So out of Somaliland, Barre Hiiraale and Farmaajo I stand by my words, Somaliland is the most successful, so the failure is between Hiiraale and Farmaajo. That's not a clan bias or anti sadeism as u call it. It's facts, its the truth.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby Based » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:42 am

I have a dossier full of antisadestic incidences sxb. Keep an eye out for an interesting presentation within the next few days.

As for SL, like I said before this thread is focused solely on politics, not peace, development, infrastructure, or stability. Since the disintegration of the Somali Democratic Republic, Somaliland's only political objective has been to secure international recognition as an independent sovereign state. For the past twenty years, the IC has been, for whatever reason, reluctant to grant SL its wish. While Somaliland has admirably established peace and stability in its corner of the Republic, recognition has not been forthcoming. I think if we're measuring political success (a rather ambiguous and arbitrary measurement), we should judge an entity by its core political objectives. Without anything short of tacit acceptance of independence, I don't think we can say they've been the most successful politically.

@Farmaajo, it became apparent during the signing of the heinous Kampala Accord that Somalia has lost even a semblance of sovereignty. Celebrating the fall of a politician who refused to bow to the commands of a third world strongman while glorifying those who prostituted themselves and their country is, I think, indicative of Somalia's degeneracy and the deluded mindset of a large portion of our population.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby quark » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:28 am

Farmaajo is a good man but he failed miserably. Not politician material.
no he was just too clean for today's corrupt TFG politicians. however as long as somalia is taking orders from the UN and third world african countries, it will never move forward. :down:
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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby galia » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:59 am

Farmajoo was a hero and a winner :som: :up:

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby Xamud. » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:41 am

Emperior
How did Farmaajo fail? he resign so he could save the TFG from a break down, he could have stayed and caused troubles for the two Shariifs, but instead he left, and for that I respect him and he is far from a failed politician, he`s a hero :up:

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby Shirib » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:11 pm

I have a dossier full of antisadestic incidences sxb. Keep an eye out for an interesting presentation within the next few days.

As for SL, like I said before this thread is focused solely on politics, not peace, development, infrastructure, or stability. Since the disintegration of the Somali Democratic Republic, Somaliland's only political objective has been to secure international recognition as an independent sovereign state. For the past twenty years, the IC has been, for whatever reason, reluctant to grant SL its wish. While Somaliland has admirably established peace and stability in its corner of the Republic, recognition has not been forthcoming. I think if we're measuring political success (a rather ambiguous and arbitrary measurement), we should judge an entity by its core political objectives. Without anything short of tacit acceptance of independence, I don't think we can say they've been the most successful politically.

@Farmaajo, it became apparent during the signing of the heinous Kampala Accord that Somalia has lost even a semblance of sovereignty. Celebrating the fall of a politician who refused to bow to the commands of a third world strongman while glorifying those who prostituted themselves and their country is, I think, indicative of Somalia's degeneracy and the deluded mindset of a large portion of our population.
I will be waiting for the antisade presentation. don't try to bring up things like this incident, or Voltage calling me antisade cause I didn't like the name Barre :lol:

If you define it purely as political achievement and say that Somaliland hasn't achieved its independence, then let's see Farmaajo lasted less than a year in the political arena before he was kicked out and didn't achieve what he sought out to do, and now he's out of the game. At least Hiiraale and Somaliland are still in the mix.

btw, I like Farmaajo, but that's the truth in the game.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:19 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: @ this thread.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:25 pm

I think Hotel Warlord Ghaandi is failed politician, even after soliciting Kenyan military support his troops have failed to advance past Qooqane, a failure indeed. Contrast to Colonel Barre Hiiraale who controls all the districts in Gedo except one and he has smoked Al shabab without any Ethiopian support. That's what I call success.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:33 pm

I think Hotel Warlord Ghaandi is failed politician, even after soliciting Kenyan military support his troops have failed to advance past Qooqane, a failure indeed. Contrast to Colonel Barre Hiiraale who controls all the districts in Gedo except one and he has smoked Al shabab without any Ethiopian support. That's what I call success.
Granpa Khalif what you failed to state is how long did it take Huraale to capture the desert with the help of the Ethiopian military ? But still Bardheere the strategic town misses the Qulle scent.

If we are going to be fair Ghandis project is a recent case like last year while Huraale is long over due wasnt that nigga kiecked out of Gedo in 2007 and wasnt he not in and out of Ethiopian custody?

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby abgaalKING » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:40 pm

Anti-Marehanism is an unfound prejudice and hatred towards marehan people and their contributions to our state and country which should be criminilized just like anti-semitism.for the ongoing discussion ,the most failed politician ever were dahir aways and general aydiid,they failed big time because they couldnt understand one simple strategy,you can not fight for ever,people will fight for you three to four years and then will get tire and say fock off to you.utilize while you have the enthusiastic folks and make an exit when they show signs of tiredness.
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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:41 pm

the patriot your reer isaaq from jigjiga/dhagaxbuur im not gonna discuss my lands with you.

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:44 pm

the patriot your reer isaaq from jigjiga/dhagaxbuur im not gonna discuss my lands with you.
which land are you talking about I never mentioned Dusamareeb.

Next time please produce a Talxe Identity card or at least a reer Xassan card. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:47 pm

Free yourself from Meles before you have the audacity to talk about others :up:

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Re: Failed Politician of 2011

Postby The_Patriot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:49 pm

Free yourself from Meles before you have the audacity to talk about others :up:
I thought it was your job, I was waiting for you to do the work using your suicide jacket ya part time Sheikh Irhabi. :lol:


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