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Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abdisamad3 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:08 am

I too know that Abdi Bille is a hero sxb but to call a man that was resposible for the destruction of Hargeisa a hero
Is an affront to the people of that region as well as the word itself
I think you misunderstood me sxb. I mean abdi bile the Somali runner was a hero and not morgan..

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby The_Emperior5 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:09 am

Abdsimad at one point you preach unity on the other moment you insult reer Mogadisho and their achievements that's now how one should behave

Abdisamad people reflect their history that is true look at our neighbors they had an ancient civilization and Kingdoms the Ethiopians the Eritrean and norther Tigrayans shared the Aksumite Empire look at them today. Abdisamad Somalis are not like other nations and people and you know that.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abdisamad3 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:12 am

Abdsimad at one point you preach unity on the other moment you insult reer Mogadisho and their achievements that's now how one should behave

Abdisamad people reflect their history that is true look at our neighbors they had an ancient civilization and Kingdoms the Ethiopians the Eritrean and norther Tigrayans shared the Aksumite Empire look at them today. Abdisamad Somalis are not like other nations and people and you know that.
LOL. I'm not trying to preach unity to you. And I never insulted the people of mugdisho. I said mugdisho is a shit hole as a result of the civil war and destruction people did to the city, which is true and not an insult.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby Thuganomics » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:14 am

I think you misunderstood me sxb. I mean abdi bile the Somali runner was a hero and not morgan..
Oh! ok sxb

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby Thuganomics » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:17 am

Emperor if Somalis consisted of people like Abdisamad I believe we could all get along
Sadly though they don't so we won't

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abdisamad3 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:18 am

I think you misunderstood me sxb. I mean abdi bile the Somali runner was a hero and not morgan..
Oh! ok sxb
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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby daiman » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:14 pm

I actually watched the whole video and find it inspiring. The somalis made good points and put their concerns forward.

I think the somalilanders were also right to talk about their issues too and that too was legitimate concern, except the last woman who just put her candho on the table ''somaliland contrution'' ku lahaa.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby military-mind » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:52 pm

pure comedy :lol: :lol:

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abgaalKING » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:32 pm

Abdisamad i dont care if recogntion comes in 100 years time or 1000s as long as Somaliland is free from Somalia i am happy :up: :D
You think somalia will get sit down and let that happen.what kind of world do you live in? The Authorities in Mogadishu will play their card by means of proxies which will Do the job right.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:36 pm

Abdisamad i dont care if recogntion comes in 100 years time or 1000s as long as Somaliland is free from Somalia i am happy :up: :D
You think somalia will get sit down and let that happen.what kind of world do you live in? The Authorities in Mogadishu will play their card by means of proxies which will Do the job right.

And what makes you think Somaliland can't return the favor if Mogadisho tries to destabilize Somaliland we will try 100 times harder to destabilize you a country as fragile as Somalia it will be an easy job :mrgreen:

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abgaalKING » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:04 pm

Abdisamad i dont care if recogntion comes in 100 years time or 1000s as long as Somaliland is free from Somalia i am happy :up: :D
You think somalia will get sit down and let that happen.what kind of world do you live in? The Authorities in Mogadishu will play their card by means of proxies which will Do the job right.

And what makes you think Somaliland can't return the favor if Mogadisho tries to destabilize Somaliland we will try 100 times harder to destabilize you a country as fragile as Somalia it will be an easy job :mrgreen:

First somaliland is not a country just yet and the political elite thugs in hargeysa doesnt represent the vast pro-union isaaqs in northern somalia.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby The_Emperior5 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:17 pm

abgaal king the political leaders are closest unionist Cigaal Tuur Siilaanyo but its the people who never wanted to be part of Somalia
Cigaal was a Fromer Prime Minister of the former dissolved republic Tuur was an Ambassador and wanted a north south confederation
Siilaanyo wrote in April 1991 a union confederation between Somaliland and Somalia between the USC AND SNM

but the people of Somaliland want nothing to do with Somalia they made it clear and thats how it works its a country its effective it works and they deliver for their people they control the vast majority of the country

Borama Awdal 18 may 2011



Burcu togdheer 18 may 2011



Berbera 18 may 2011



Ceerigaabo sanaag 18 may



Hargeysa Somaliland

[youtube]Pw4_ZxX9mIg&feature=related[/youtube]


The people of Somaliland have spoken that they dont want less than a separate recognized Soomaliland


So abgaal king you can have you're Somalia laba dawladood oo jaar ah if you dont want that dee iskeen sii waynu is dili you will lose eventually again :mrgreen:

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abgaalKING » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:05 pm

As i said before,a just referendum is the only logical way to decide if northern somalia want to be part of the republic or not.certain communities in the somaliland entity doesnt want the break up of the country and feel strong emotional attachment to their brothers in the south,therefore,we should respect their aspirations and needs as well.awdal,sool and sanaag doesnt buy this secessionist crap and want one united somali republic and many other people in the capital hargeysa as well.their voices should be hard otherwise a future conflict and confrontation will decide the outcome.
And I am ready to die in that noble war in which our glorious days will return once we uproot the political elite in hargeysa and replace it with one which represents the true sentiments of the people in northern somalia.Our strenght lies in our unity and not in being a tiny Abyssinian protectrote.
Somaliland must be saved from the diasporic control whose narrow mindedness will bring shame and humiliation once their separatism ends in complete and utter failure.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:21 pm

Somalilanders decided their future they did it in 1991 the independence thing was done there is no way back and Somaliland is writing its own history the past 20 years, We welcome a referendum if it makes the Koonfurians happy i say bring it on bring please A UN recognized referendum for Somaliland for all the six region the former British Somaliland you will be again surprised :mrgreen: , As for the Ethiopians they dont wan to see a recognized Somaliland nor do they want to see a stable strong Somalia , they know the mindset of the Koonfurians that Mogadisho would never agree with Somalilands independence and Somaliland wlll never ever accept Mogadisho and Somalia. So they will play us against each other. The Ethiopians said to Somaliland you're recognition is in xamar knowing that Koonfurians and Somalilanders will never agree he knows even that koonfurians among them selves will not agree having 5 entities Ahlusna waljamaca puntland galmudug alshabaab and the TFG those 5 entities is Somalia now and days . For us we have nothing to lose You will lose the most since you when you're country is united you had enough of war and will not even dream to wage a war against Somaliland. And if you do than you're people will never have peace we can wage a war for another 20 years since we lived in peace the past 20 years. But defending Somaliland is our obligation. :up: :D Abgaal king you need to save you're self from the Kenyans Ethiopians invading you're country and the 12.000 bantus in Somalia you're weakness destroyed Somalia.

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Re: Somalia Diaspora Discussion at Chatham House

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:49 pm

As i said before,a just referendum is the only logical way to decide if northern somalia want to be part of the republic or not.certain communities in the somaliland entity doesnt want the break up of the country and feel strong emotional attachment to their brothers in the south,therefore,we should respect their aspirations and needs as well.awdal,sool and sanaag doesnt buy this secessionist crap and want one united somali republic and many other people in the capital hargeysa as well.their voices should be hard otherwise a future conflict and confrontation will decide the outcome.
And I am ready to die in that noble war in which our glorious days will return once we uproot the political elite in hargeysa and replace it with one which represents the true sentiments of the people in northern somalia.Our strenght lies in our unity and not in being a tiny Abyssinian protectrote.
Somaliland must be saved from the diasporic control whose narrow mindedness will bring shame and humiliation once their separatism ends in complete and utter failure.
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