Jubbaland State's parliament to be 60 seats.

[grandpakhalif]

Sade is the clear majority in Jubbaland, inshallah we will continue to be so.

[Colonel]

And how do you expect that a state will function with your mentality above? Or Kush mentality? Its best interest to admit Sade position in the jubbas.

And what is Sade's position? There was a hint of sarcasm in my post but the message I am trying to convey is that you guys are a greedy bunch who want all the power to themselves. Soon you will even claim that the Jubbas are 60% Sade populated.

[Nomand]

And how do you expect that a state will function with your mentality above? Or Kush mentality? Its best interest to admit Sade position in the jubbas.

And what is Sade's position? There was a hint of sarcasm in my post but the message I am trying to convey is that you guys are a greedy bunch who want all the power to themselves. Soon you will even claim that the Jubbas are 60% Sade populated.

claim what? the truth

jubba is sparsely populated and the only place with heavy population is kismaayo district and sade is majority in kismaayo district

[Substance]

And what is Sade's position? There was a hint of sarcasm in my post but the message I am trying to convey is that you guys are a greedy bunch who want all the power to themselves. Soon you will even claim that the Jubbas are 60% Sade populated.

Well its not greed but fair representation. Nothing more, Sade being the most numerous clan population wise should have the most seats. Surely you wouldt accept a smaller clan to have more or equal representation then Absame and nor can we.

[Murax]

Dude show me where ceelcadde is
i have never heard of ceelcadde sounds like someone did a wiki edit . Point made gedo has 7 districts and the two jubbas have 8.

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Ahmed ayaa degmadii labaad u magacaabay gobalka Gedo laba bilood guda hooda (daawo)
Madaxweynaha dowalda KMG ah Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Ahmed oo Tuulada Yurkud u magacaabay degma cusub oo ka tirsan gobalka Gedo. bil ka hor ayay aheyd markii Sidani oo kale Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Sheekh Shariif uu Tuulada Bohola-Garas ee gobalka Gedo u magacaabay degma buuxda.

Dowladii allaha u naxariistee Cabdullahi Yusuf ayaa iyagudan gobalka Gedo u magacowday laba degmo oo kala ahaa Buurdhuubo iyo Tuulada Ceelcade, Inkastoo wali muran ka taaganyahay degma nimadooda.


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[Colonel]

And what is Sade's position? There was a hint of sarcasm in my post but the message I am trying to convey is that you guys are a greedy bunch who want all the power to themselves. Soon you will even claim that the Jubbas are 60% Sade populated.

Well its not greed but fair representation. Nothing more, Sade being the most numerous clan population wise should have the most seats. Surely you wouldt accept a smaller clan to have more or equal representation then Absame and nor can we.

Since when do you guys have the highest population? The only place you're found is Gedo which is estimated to have a population of 500 000 people. Lower and Middle Juba have a population of about 800 000 people. You guys seem to think that Gedo is only inhabited by Sade which is rather delusional but let us say that is the case for the sake of our argument. We know that Marehan don't even reach 1 million as a whole, now let us subtract the ones living in Galgudud/Cabudwaq, Ethiopia/Kenya and outside Africa. That's perhaps 400 000 people right there.
500 000 (Gedo) + 400 000 = 900 000. That leaves us 100 000 Marehans. Let us say that those 100 000 live in Lower/Middle Jubba, this would mean that you guys have a population of 600 000 in Jubbaland. Now i'm gonna be stupid like you lot and make silly claims such as Ogaden make up the 700 000 out of the 800 000 in the 2 Jubbas. Even then you wouldn't have a biggest population than us in the region and I have indeed been very generous with the numbers I've given you.

Now we know that Gedo isn't wholly made up of Sade as you guys claim and you have no representation in the 2 Jubbas outside of Kismayo yet you're still the biggest group in Jubaland?
Enough with the Mickey Mouse stories already.

[Substance]

The two jubbas have 800 thousand in population? Thats not true at all. Its more like 600 thousand. Gedo alone has 700 thousand and majority is marehan. But lets say that 100 thousand is non Sade then it remains 600 thousand sade plus those sade who live in the jubbas lets say 200 thousand. Thats 800 thousand strong sade population and singelhandly the largest group and thus should have more seats. then anyone. I wonder how many Absame lives there well they dont match sade.

[Colonel]

smh i rest my case.

[IRONm@N]

I'm just suspicious about all these Jubbaland thing, because of the so much foriegn governments involved from China to America to Kenya, Ethiopia etc.
and that these idiots were called to Nairobi and met with all these governments and was promised $20 million that don't go through the TFG if they make Jubbaland state work.

are they planning to add Jubbaland to Kenya? are they trying to sign the Jubba sea for Kenya to extract oil? or is it just to make Kenya more stable and have a buffer zone from pirates and alshabaab.
if its later its good and everyone should support, if its the first we should reject it like AIDs

[Substance]

smh i rest my case.

Thats your respons?

[Colonel]

Your post was unworthy of a response, i'm not in the business of dealing with the delusional.

[Substance]

Your post was unworthy of a response, i'm not in the business of dealing with the delusional.

Do as you like.

[InvisibleHand]

In 2012, the estimated population of Gedo is 510,100
In 2012, the estimated population of Middle Juba is 293,300
In 2012, the estimated population of Lower Juba is 424,000.

Source: UNDP Somalia: Population Statistics of Somalia (Page 13 of 42)
http://www.somali-jna.org/downloads/ACFA9.pdf

[guhad122]

Colonel iyo Dhamaan Ilma-Absame,
Miyaad maqasheen maah-maahdo weyn ee ah "Ninkii midgaan wax ku darsada waa midgaan kale". These guys are nothing more than midgo and that is why it would never make any sense politically and strategically for Absame to make any administration with Ilka-Yar.
This is how the land was settled in the 1930 and trust me, not much has changed except that Cawlyahans no longer make up the majority of Baardheere which has equal population of Cawlyahan, Mareexaan and Raxanweyn:
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/northeast_ ... fig01f.jpg
I have said many times that let us build our own administration in the two Jubbas, establish fair and democratic administration and then go from there. When would Absame learn that enough is enough on this stupid Darood card that only has credit when others want to use on us. Here you have kids who grew up in looted national properties denying the Absame land. Voltage is even claiming that Saakow and Salagle which are 100% Absame to Raxanweyn. Actually Salagle is more Ogaden than Afmadow.
Let us forget these folks and not worry about Gedo for now. Let them join with Eelaay or whoever they deem to be aligned with their interests.

[guhad122]

I have seen the never-growing Voltage post useless and irrelevant cable entries from back then when Huuraale and his Ceyr masters were controlling Kismaayo. There was never a question that, at the juncture in time, Marehan had presence in Kismaayu. But what happened after that? Did you guys forget the "the Chase"? Here are the latest cable entries on Marehan and Kismayu; very small minority who are allingning themselves with the criminal entity Alshab to survivie:
"The Marehan subclan represents a small minority in Lower Juba and some Marehan appear to be tactically working with al-Shabaab in order to retain some influence in Kismayo"
here is the link:
http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.ph ... AIROBI2202

Go ahead voltage bring up that cable when your master Meles and Ceyr warriors were keeping you in Kismayu so that the brave ONLF fighters don't get bases in the port city.