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Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:36 am
by TeAmo
This is mockery coz Al Shabab are not mujahideen but khawarij. They are also fearful of the kufr in the battlefield fleeing from cities where the amisom or Ethiopian troops come in this is haram and Allah cursed anyone who turns their back while they're fighting in the way of Allah which shows their not really fighting fisabililah but for their own reasons coz someone who fights for the sake of Allah never flees the enemy. Anyway anything and everything the Al Shayadeens do is bida :stylin:

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:39 am
by gurey25
yes they are khawarij and zindiqs but you should not accuse them of lack of bravery.

they are brave.

what do you want them to do?
stand up in ranks waving spears and charge tanks?

they are fighting a war..

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:41 am
by ZubeirAwal
this is takfiir..
abubaker i thought you were sufi?

this takfiirism is from the unholy offspring of the najd.

do not pick up their bad habits.

Al-Shabab is an off-shoot of the najd, you telling me this group of people who do nothing but put fear into the hearts of other muslims, oppress women, and make unlawful meat halal, AND, blast themselves killing hundreds of muslims, and then read quran, and then their dua will be accepted?, bro Al-Shabab do disgusting un-islamic acts like kill muslims in the middle of ramadan, all of these things go against the basic laws of the deen, and they (al-shabab) were created by the enemies of islam.

They are fighting a useless war, this still doesn't change the fact that they are fascits who terrorize innocent muslims. And then they read the qur'an as if their expecting rewards.

I'm a sufi but i belong to no order.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:45 am
by gurey25
stop using confusing terms like fascist which have no relation to the topic we are using today.
the terms khawarij and zindiq are more accurate.

and we should always be carefull with takfir unless it is something that has consensus amongst all ulema,

like the fact ahmedi(qadiyani) are not muslim and the fact that alawis in syria have a big question mark over them.
and the fact that there is 100% agreement that the bahai, the Turkish alevis and the Druze are not muslim at all in any way or form.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:49 am
by Shirib
Man from reading snet you would think that Somali's started killing each other with the advent of Al Shabaab.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:53 am
by Substance
This is mockery coz Al Shabab are not mujahideen but khawarij. They are also fearful of the kufr in the battlefield fleeing from cities where the amisom or Ethiopian troops come in this is haram and Allah cursed anyone who turns their back while they're fighting in the way of Allah which shows their not really fighting fisabililah but for their own reasons coz someone who fights for the sake of Allah never flees the enemy. Anyway anything and everything the Al Shayadeens do is bida :stylin:
Thats for those who flee or abandon the war. Alshabab are still fightin but wisely they pick their battles. Basic military style.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:54 am
by SadeMedia
It is actualy mockery of Islam. I remember how Al-Shabaab used to given children weapons as gifts for quran competions. Its an educational event, so whats with the guns as gifts? Aren't they supposed to do something productive with what they have learnt in their education rather than take arm and waste a childs live who could have been something for himself, his parents and his country.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:56 am
by Shirib
This is mockery coz Al Shabab are not mujahideen but khawarij. They are also fearful of the kufr in the battlefield fleeing from cities where the amisom or Ethiopian troops come in this is haram and Allah cursed anyone who turns their back while they're fighting in the way of Allah which shows their not really fighting fisabililah but for their own reasons coz someone who fights for the sake of Allah never flees the enemy. Anyway anything and everything the Al Shayadeens do is bida :stylin:
What are you going on about even the Nabi saw and the sahaaba retreated in Uhud. This is basic war, retreating is part of war, you can't expect them to take on a force that is far better equipped head on.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:57 am
by TeAmo
No your not allowed to turn your back in the battlefield when the fight begins there have been many times Al Shabab ran off after they exchanged a few bullets with the amisom and ethio troops.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:00 pm
by gurey25
No your not allowed to turn your back in the battlefield when the fight begins there have been many times Al Shabab ran off after they exchanged a few bullets with the amisom and ethio troops.

you really do not know anything about war do you?

if they did not retreat and fought suicidally to the death they will be considered idiots.

they will disappear quickly ..

sadly they are not idiots and unlike you they know something about war...

misguided they maybe idiots? definatley not.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:00 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
This is mockery coz Al Shabab are not mujahideen but khawarij. They are also fearful of the kufr in the battlefield fleeing from cities where the amisom or Ethiopian troops come in this is haram and Allah cursed anyone who turns their back while they're fighting in the way of Allah which shows their not really fighting fisabililah but for their own reasons coz someone who fights for the sake of Allah never flees the enemy. Anyway anything and everything the Al Shayadeens do is bida :stylin:
What are you going on about even the Nabi saw and the sahaaba retreated in Uhud. This is basic war, retreating is part of war, you can't expect them to take on a force that is far better equipped head on.

Einstein,
If the prophet PBUH and the sahaba did the same " Xeelad Dagaal" i dont think we would witness the conquest of Makkah, let alone conquests of Greater Sham, Iran and Egypt.
Xeelad dagaal yeah right, more like marathon.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:00 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Baha'i are not muslim, without a doubt, anyone who believes in a prophet after the prophet muhammad is an apostate, Bahaiullah claimed to be a manifestation from god, how can anyone still say their muslim?

As i said i don't care for sects but what Al-Shabab do with their bloody hands, going into mosques and brain washing little children into killing themselves, go waay beyond the limit..
"They recite Qur'an and consider it in their favor but it is against them."

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:02 pm
by gurey25
we both agree they are bad people simply put..

but my advice is..
that you need to understand your enemy.

you do not seem to understand them or even want to.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:05 pm
by TeAmo
No your not allowed to turn your back in the battlefield when the fight begins there have been many times Al Shabab ran off after they exchanged a few bullets with the amisom and ethio troops.

you really do not know anything about war do you?

if they did not retreat and fought suicidally to the death they will be considered idiots.

they will disappear quickly ..

sadly they are not idiots and unlike you they know something about war...

misguided they maybe idiots? definatley not.

Your lucky Im fasting I would have cussed you out nacas yahow. I've listened to the Quran many times when it talks about war so I know what I'm talking about. There haven't been a time where the Sahaba were fighting the enemy and ran off abandoning the fight like cowards.

Re: Alshabab mockery of Islam reaches new level

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:06 pm
by Shirib
This is mockery coz Al Shabab are not mujahideen but khawarij. They are also fearful of the kufr in the battlefield fleeing from cities where the amisom or Ethiopian troops come in this is haram and Allah cursed anyone who turns their back while they're fighting in the way of Allah which shows their not really fighting fisabililah but for their own reasons coz someone who fights for the sake of Allah never flees the enemy. Anyway anything and everything the Al Shayadeens do is bida :stylin:
What are you going on about even the Nabi saw and the sahaaba retreated in Uhud. This is basic war, retreating is part of war, you can't expect them to take on a force that is far better equipped head on.

Einstein,
If the prophet PBUH and the sahaba did the same " Xeelad Dagaal" i dont think we would witness the conquest of Makkah, let alone conquests of Greater Sham, Iran and Egypt.
Xeelad dagaal yeah right, more like marathon.
what is xeelad?

The Prophet saw, and sahaab ra. retreated in the battle of uhud. This is fact!