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Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Cirwaaq » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:48 am

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Who will get to wear the crown :?:

It is not important who gets to sit on the seat however what is important is to understand the JOB that needs to be done during the term of the next leadership!

Objective: To establish the process of setting in place the state apparatus to enable proper democratic elections to take place once the term of this government ends.

Spoilers: Once the Lead team has been Selected the primary focus will be in preventing any spoilers who will derail the process of extending governance to new liberated areas.


Question is who can deliver the needed change?

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Twist » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:00 am

Neither!

But if there is no another choice and they're the only two left then Dalxis it's.

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Eaglehawk » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:43 pm

There is a difference between what we personally want and who is most electable
Only a fool would think that sharif and sakin have a chance, they are damaged goods their liability exceeds their benefit.

Most of the xildibaans are well educated and are not corrupt like those that wanted to sell Somali territorial water.
Having looked into the background of the xildbaans and the qualifications that they hold, I get the sense that they are less tribalistic and more critical of sharif and sakin, because of the prevailing stereotype about these two men, that’s why I believe that these new xildibaans will humiliate these guys(nuur cade style), I will be surprised if sakin or sharif get 30 xildibaans each

If you understand the psychology of the Somali parliament, coupled with the consensus of the Somali “aqoonyahan” from which these xildibaans are selected, you would know that sharif and sakin don`t stand a chance.

This election is not about money. it’s about the information that these xildibaans have about you.
These xildibaans would not play into the stereotype of corrupt xildibaans .

cirwaaq laangaabs can not think rationally their views are twisted do to emotions :D

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Shirib » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:15 pm

ilma mareexaan are in for a rude awakening

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Cirwaaq » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:59 pm

There is a difference between what we personally want and who is most electable
Only a fool would think that sharif and sakin have a chance, they are damaged goods their liability exceeds their benefit.

Most of the xildibaans are well educated and are not corrupt like those that wanted to sell Somali territorial water.
Having looked into the background of the xildbaans and the qualifications that they hold, I get the sense that they are less tribalistic and more critical of sharif and sakin, because of the prevailing stereotype about these two men, that’s why I believe that these new xildibaans will humiliate these guys(nuur cade style), I will be surprised if sakin or sharif get 30 xildibaans each

If you understand the psychology of the Somali parliament, coupled with the consensus of the Somali “aqoonyahan” from which these xildibaans are selected, you would know that sharif and sakin don`t stand a chance.

This election is not about money. it’s about the information that these xildibaans have about you.
These xildibaans would not play into the stereotype of corrupt xildibaans .

cirwaaq laangaabs can not think rationally their views are twisted do to emotions :D
Laangaab is a term invented by cowards who were unable to defend themselves in the field of battle and like an old woman they would calaacal sunrise to sunset inventing terms to call those that took their camels and daughters and left them only the old sterile grandmothers as bed buddies.

Eaglet you are devoid of insight into the inner mechanics of somali sociopolitical motivators. The primary motivator for the average Somali is self preservation not as you and your bum chumps would like us to believe. From sun rise to sun set every individual is concerned with sourcing their next meal and perhaps likewise for their families. Each individual has a network of family members who all rely on fractional diversion of resources acquired by one member of the family.

Education of a candidate, His clan, His ethical values, his ability to run the state... are all irrelevant

What they need is someone that is able to sympathize with their extended responsibility and make a tangible difference and from their experience every politician is corrupt so the one that is able to provide them with a some welfare tokens is the day's HERO...

There is no charming in this process, which for your information is a SELECTION process as opposed to an ELECTION process :!:

There is a gulf between the two systems of choosing a President.

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby The`Republic » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:34 pm

ilma mareexaan are in for a rude awakening
REMEMBER NUUR CADDE.

Twisted Logic was swearing on his imminent presidency the night before the election and of his fierce competition to Sheikh Sharif because he was an incumbent who had the support of the Embagathi parliament and would give a run in the extra ARS @ 250.

In the end, he didn't even make it to the second round.

Neither Sakiin nor Dalxiis is my wager.

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Shirib » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:08 pm

The favorite to win has won every election so far. In 2009 Sh. Shariif was the favorite in 2004 it was Abdullahi Yusuf and Abdiqasim in 2000. Just like that one of the Shariif's will win this one. Talk to u on the 3rd.

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby TheblueNwhite » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:18 pm

Dalxis to win it again. :stylin: AMISOM and the Turks want him, half of the MPs are in his pocket, it's a no brainer.

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Salah Al-Din » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:27 pm

Does it matter who the president is? Shouldn't the process, the outcome and the next steps be the focus as Somalia moves towards stability and security? Wish whoever wins much luck. :up:

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Cirwaaq » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:47 am

Does it matter who the president is? Shouldn't the process, the outcome and the next steps be the focus as Somalia moves towards stability and security? Wish whoever wins much luck. :up:
Totally :up:

In fact Somalia is better off retaining the so called corrupt politicians that already have an understanding of the task ahead of them. A Totally new formed government and leadership will require at least 12months to learnt the ropes. A new team are prone to more in-depth levels of external coercion where as those that have served the Nation have already experienced the influences of these external forces.

We have every reason to suspect that those men who are entering the political arena are far more dangerous to the sovereignty of the state then those the UN have claimed are unfit for office... We are better off with those men that are disliked by the enemies of our nation.

We need to understand our enemies would naturally dislike those who are best for our nation!

The Sharifs are true Wadanis and do not need to hold foreign passports as a backup plan to escape when things don't work. We are better off with them even if we do not like them.

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Twist » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:32 am

Does it matter who the president is? Shouldn't the process, the outcome and the next steps be the focus as Somalia moves towards stability and security? Wish whoever wins much luck. :up:
Totally :up:

In fact Somalia is better off retaining the so called corrupt politicians that already have an understanding of the task ahead of them. A Totally new formed government and leadership will require at least 12months to learnt the ropes. A new team are prone to more in-depth levels of external coercion where as those that have served the Nation have already experienced the influences of these external forces.

We have every reason to suspect that those men who are entering the political arena are far more dangerous to the sovereignty of the state then those the UN have claimed are unfit for office... We are better off with those men that are disliked by the enemies of our nation.

We need to understand our enemies would naturally dislike those who are best for our nation!

The Sharifs are true Wadanis and do not need to hold foreign passports as a backup plan to escape when things don't work. We are better off with them even if we do not like them.
That point, plus the fact they have already been alleged (though nothing was proven) of corruption so the likelihood of them going on corruption spree is minimal since they're already condemned, whereas new leaders who are hungry might try to fill in their pockets first. :idea:

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Re: Dalxis or Sakin

Postby Cirwaaq » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:43 am

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Without singling anyone out these men are out for their own self interest and the Somali people to be honest with themselves about the people gathered in Moqadishu.

Non of them have a visible Governance plan to make a difference because there is nobody that is interested in asking them or evaluating their capability to lead. A state in a failed status for over 2 decades requires a leadership with even more specialized skills to recover the State out of such a status.

1. No State apparatus
2. No services delivered to civilians
3. Bulk of population exists as IDps and they are still at risk of famines.
4. State is occupied by Foreign mercenaries
5. The threat of Shabab continues since they still control 90% of the country

Non of the candidates are qualified to address the fundamental pillars required to RECOVER the state from it's failed status... With the two sharifs they have already set in place their support apparatus to make a difference. All these new candidates will sabotage each other when they loose... We will certainly enter 1-2 years of Pickering that will result in loss of all advancements made against Shabab.

Each new governing team selected has remained totally ineffective fro the first 24months... In my view it is better to retain the Sharifs and simply work closer with them to deliver proper ELECTIONS that allow for 1man 1vote and better representation.

The Current SELECTION fiasco is not representative of anyone :down: and each looser will simply throw a tantrum and fly off with his foreign passport.

:up: Let us Keep the Shariffs


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