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Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Meyle » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:17 am

The title is wrong and misleading. What you have in Somalia is not a parliament, its a collection of warlords and thugs aiming to get rich on the back of the poor people of Somalia. Those who CLAIM to represent the people of Somaliland or Isaaq's are the scum of the earth. The people of Somaliland have elected politician who they see fit to represent them and those politicians will aim to carry out there political wishes. For somebody to come along and hijack there political right is not because they were elected but simply because they hail from this tribe is wrong. We do not support these people who try and take advantage of both the people of Somaliland and those in Mogdisho. They are not patriots, patriotic people don't exist and if they do you will find them all in Somaliland. Furthermore if these so called politicans return to Somaliland and get arrested, that should give you an idea of what Isaaq on the whole think of them.

You people should be thanking us for arresting them and treating them as criminals...
There's no such thing as Somaliland though.. Its just a leftover from colonial past and colonialists that exploited our people and our land. The same colonialists that signed treaties with odayaasha Somaliyeed in nortern Somalia during 1880's inorder to deceive them and hand over our land to Menelik because he was an ally against the Mahdi of Sudan.

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Murax » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:19 am

I think these are enlightened Issaq mps who are realistic and accepting of what their place is in the Somali political totem pole :MJ:

Murax what i have told you about TFG politics and Somalilanders and how they view the TFg and Somalia politics as a whole


Incase You do not know sxb, Itctiraaf is not coming. Just a fyi.

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Khalid Ali » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:19 am

^^ Who cares about the colonialist they are gone long gone :clap:

Today the people who own the land rule it and thats what matters

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Khalid Ali » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:21 am

I think these are enlightened Issaq mps who are realistic and accepting of what their place is in the Somali political totem pole :MJ:

Murax what i have told you about TFG politics and Somalilanders and how they view the TFg and Somalia politics as a whole


Incase You do not know sxb, Itctiraaf is not coming. Just a fyi.

even if it doesnt come in 200 years we are not part of Somalia nor is ictraaf la aan going to change that 22 years should ring a bell :mrgreen:
The people of Somaliland are determined as long as they rule their country they are very much happy i was there this summer i have never seen people so involved in their country.

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby greenday » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:22 am

Very clever Shirib.
hey, it's an Abgaal guys words, not mine :|
So what?

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby skywalker25 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:25 am

The title is wrong and misleading. What you have in Somalia is not a parliament, its a collection of warlords and thugs aiming to get rich on the back of the poor people of Somalia. Those who CLAIM to represent the people of Somaliland or Isaaq's are the scum of the earth. The people of Somaliland have elected politician who they see fit to represent them and those politicians will aim to carry out there political wishes. For somebody to come along and hijack there political right is not because they were elected but simply because they hail from this tribe is wrong. We do not support these people who try and take advantage of both the people of Somaliland and those in Mogdisho. They are not patriots, patriotic people don't exist and if they do you will find them all in Somaliland. Furthermore if these so called politicans return to Somaliland and get arrested, that should give you an idea of what Isaaq on the whole think of them.

You people should be thanking us for arresting them and treating them as criminals...
There's no such thing as Somaliland though.. Its just a leftover from colonial past and colonialists that exploited our people and our land. The same colonialists that signed treaties with odayaasha Somaliyeed in nortern Somalia during 1880's inorder to deceive them and hand over our land to Menelik because he was an ally against the Mahdi of Sudan.
In an ideal world you are right and I'm wrong. But in todays world I'm right and you are wrong. Somaliland exists, it has a president who was elected by majority of people from Somaliland. Are you going tell the majority of those people, what they think does not exist? They have a right and they have chosen to exercise that right. You, I or anybody else cant take that right away from them. They have chosen to be different to have peace, stability and law and order without any outside help.
We united with these people whole heartdly once upon a time and we got screwed over. So instead f being obsessed with the British who handn't killed more than a handful of Isaaq's you should speak to your elders about those who were bombing Hargeisa...

Your whole logic is redundant. Its as if you wish to force people to accept what you think is right...

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Shirib » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:26 am

Very clever Shirib.
hey, it's an Abgaal guys words, not mine :|
So what?
i was just telling ya.

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Meyle » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:26 am

^^ Who cares about the colonialist they are gone long gone :clap:

Today the people who own the land rule it and thats what matters
That might be the case but our land is not in our hands. As an Isaaq how can I relax when places like Daroor, Rabaso, Gaashaamo, Awaare etc. are being administrated from Addis instead of Hargeysa or Muqdisho. Since the reserve area was supposed to be handed over to us not to someone else...

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Khalid Ali » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:29 am

The title is wrong and misleading. What you have in Somalia is not a parliament, its a collection of warlords and thugs aiming to get rich on the back of the poor people of Somalia. Those who CLAIM to represent the people of Somaliland or Isaaq's are the scum of the earth. The people of Somaliland have elected politician who they see fit to represent them and those politicians will aim to carry out there political wishes. For somebody to come along and hijack there political right is not because they were elected but simply because they hail from this tribe is wrong. We do not support these people who try and take advantage of both the people of Somaliland and those in Mogdisho. They are not patriots, patriotic people don't exist and if they do you will find them all in Somaliland. Furthermore if these so called politicans return to Somaliland and get arrested, that should give you an idea of what Isaaq on the whole think of them.

You people should be thanking us for arresting them and treating them as criminals...
These people do not know what a parliament is a Parliament is elected by the People by their constituency in Somaliland we have an elected Parliament by its people. Not Some odayaal kala af qadh qadhmuun oo xildhibaan magacabayaa :lol:


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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby greenday » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:29 am

Shirib, dont next time :up:

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby TeAmo » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:31 am


So you decide this based on their qabiil, or something else?

If you are born and bread in Somalia and so were ur parents you are a citizen of Somalia regardless of tribe but if you are born and bred elsewhere as well as your family like Djbouti or Ogadenia you are not a citizen of Somalia. Why should we from Somalia be all nationalist when everyone else is not? Forget Somali weyne each to his country. The Somali Bantus should get more right in Somalia than the Djboutis. Just like the black Saudis get more right than other non Saudi Arabs because they are people from Saudi and other Arabs aren't :roll:
How do you decide that like I said. If a guy goes hey my family was born in Somalia. I want my citizenship, on what grounds can you deny anyone?

We will figure out a way to deal with that after we get a proper government insha'Allah. Like green said I need a visa to get into Ethiopia, Kenya, Djbouti so why can't they get a visa to enter Somalia also. Not fair that I have to have a visa to enter their land and they can just come in mine. Somalia is too crowded and messy we don't need more people especially non Somalia nationals. Fxxk the 5 stars in the Somali flag. Somalia is only for Somalia nationals. Let the Djibouti, NFD and Ogadenia let me in to live without a visa and we will do the same for them no double standards. I don't care if your Somali if your not from Somalia You need documentation to stay in Somalia :up: insha'Allah when we get a proper government we should make this a rule.
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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Murax » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:32 am

^^ Who cares about the colonialist they are gone long gone :clap:

Today the people who own the land rule it and thats what matters

Rule it how? To the entire world You are not wakiil over Your "Country" Shariif is, or whoever sits on that chair in Xamar. You cannot be a Country, without being recognized by the world. How do You develop Your Country, develolp a real army, make pacts, agreements with the rest of the world if You're not a sovereign Country?

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby Shirib » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:33 am

greenday,

whatevs

TeAmo,

I think its very difficult to police, unless ur just going to cut out all "foreign" Somali's, expatriates included.

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby skywalker25 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:35 am

The title is wrong and misleading. What you have in Somalia is not a parliament, its a collection of warlords and thugs aiming to get rich on the back of the poor people of Somalia. Those who CLAIM to represent the people of Somaliland or Isaaq's are the scum of the earth. The people of Somaliland have elected politician who they see fit to represent them and those politicians will aim to carry out there political wishes. For somebody to come along and hijack there political right is not because they were elected but simply because they hail from this tribe is wrong. We do not support these people who try and take advantage of both the people of Somaliland and those in Mogdisho. They are not patriots, patriotic people don't exist and if they do you will find them all in Somaliland. Furthermore if these so called politicans return to Somaliland and get arrested, that should give you an idea of what Isaaq on the whole think of them.

You people should be thanking us for arresting them and treating them as criminals...
These people do not know what a parliament is a Parliament is elected by the People by their constituency in Somaliland we have an elected Parliament by its people. Not Some odayaal kala af qadh qadhmuun oo xildhibaan magacabayaa :lol:


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In all honesty Khalid, its a positive step if they are looking to resolve their issues through peaceful communication. Be it in a parliament or underneath a tree. They obviously have a long way to go to get to the stage we are at today, were every man has a right to elect who they want to lead them. In the south the people dont have the right to elect anyone and they are trying to do the same with the people of Somaliland. Unforgiven act.

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Re: Isaaq Members of Parliament in Somalia

Postby SahanGalbeed » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:39 am

The fact to the matter is , Somailand is not part of Somalia as of right now . The condition is when you get your act together insha Allah we shall talk .
Arguing with a marehan about it is a waste of time


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