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Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby metamorphosis » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:13 pm


Saraxnoow---a supposed girl with a man's name whose 100% of posts are inflammatory tribal discussions
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I urge both the Ogadeen and Marehan members to take this quarrel to the Daarod Private section. I also want to remind you, if Ogadeen and Marehan were to fight, they would surely weaken each other, thus Ceyr and Shiekhaal would inherit Kismaayo. To what advantage would a war between the two of you be, idiots?
Ogaden to its entirety doesnt need to wage war with marehan. Just 1/8th of ogaden would be enough to banish the squaters back to galgadud where hutu beasts await them. The ogaden in somalia dont even make up 10% of all ogaden and marehan is having the most difficult time countering them imagine if we deploy 50k ogs from ogadenia and another 30k from nfd? Marehan would be slaves in gedo running errends for the blessed tribe.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Coldoon » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:14 pm

Moderators, please delete this thread. The 'Republic, next time you share with us something sensitive regarding Jubbaland, post it in the DPG or in the Jubbaland private group.
Is this guy for real. You really do need to chill and take a break from this place. This is a social forum, a place to exchange ideas and accept and sometime acknowledge people who's opinion you dont agree with. What so important about this thread that it needs to be deleted or moved. You moron. Its clear to not just us but the whole world what is happening in Kismayo. Its been happening for 20 odd years, and to be perfectly frank we dont give a rats arse past these few lines that we made on this thread.
I suggest you focus on your boring Clan-Enclave so-called Politics. Habar Jeclo.., I meant Kulmiye party did this or that, while Habar Yonis.., I meant Wadani party did that. :lol: Waasiir Dur said to his cousin Waasir Orgiwaase (Or something along that line).

Funny how you don't mind the 20 years of war that has been taking place in Kismaayo, but somehow you make it a big deal out of what happened 3 months in 1988. More Daarod and Hawiye have died than the so-called "50,000" Isaaq you guys foolishly claim to have "died", which is still considered to be a hoax in the general population.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby skywalker25 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:16 pm

Moderators, please delete this thread. The 'Republic, next time you share with us something sensitive regarding Jubbaland, post it in the DPG or in the Jubbaland private group.
Is this guy for real. You really do need to chill and take a break from this place. This is a social forum, a place to exchange ideas and accept and sometime acknowledge people who's opinion you dont agree with. What so important about this thread that it needs to be deleted or moved. You moron. Its clear to not just us but the whole world what is happening in Kismayo. Its been happening for 20 odd years, and to be perfectly frank we dont give a rats arse past these few lines that we made on this thread.
I suggest you focus on your boring Clan-Enclave so-called Politics. Habar Jeclo.., I meant Kulmiye party did this or that, while Habar Yonis.., I meant Wadani party did that. :lol: Waasiir Dur said to his cousin Waasir Orgiwaase (Or something along that line).

Funny how you don't mind that for 20 years the war that has been taking place in Kismaayo, but somehow you make it a big deal out of what happened 3 months in 1988. More Daarod and Hawiye have died than the so-called "50,000" Isaaq you guys foolishly claim to have "died", which is still considered to be a hoax in the general population.
Sxb, your in no position to talk. Come to Las anood and do your talking, scrach that, I mean fighting there.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby skywalker25 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:18 pm

anyway as you were. This iidoor wont be in your top secret thread..

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Coldoon » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:19 pm


Sxb, your in no position to talk. Come to Las anood and do your talking, scrach that, I mean fighting there.
Come back to Kalshaale, not as a Habar Jeclo, but as a Isaaq or "Somaliland", which ever title you like and do your talking, scratch that, I meant fighting there. :lol:

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Siciid85 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:23 pm

Khalid i know the situations are different, but my point was kinship bond is stronger than so called nationalism in Somalia you have to realise that.
If people who were Ethiopian born are being welcomed to Somalia, airports being named after them.... what refuses the same for the likes of Faraax Macaliin of NFD
to get the same honor in their cousins tribal land in deep south? There is one thing i don't like and that is hypocrisy.

khalid no that is not how it is. You as a Ethiopian citizen from Harta Sheikh or Harshin undermines Abdi Iley who is actually your president in the so called
K5 region, while welcoming Somaliland influence in the K5 region to advance our clans (which is fine and i support it myself), however why are you denying
Ogadens the same opportunity to use his cousins next door in Kenya like Yuusuf Xaaji (i am not talking about the Kikuyu troops) to advance his status in Somalia?
isn't that hypocrisy....
I think to be fair. A small detail is being left out and its the elephant in the room. That is the OG are not controlled by a Somali but directly from a neighbouring country which has already in the past absorbed Somali land unfairly. The suspicion exist will they do the same again and who or how will they be stopped. In short would you place the responsiblity of guarding the ''jewel in the south'' in the hands of a Cagdheer. :?

Now you can see why Voltage is losing his mind. I would be the same :lol:

I agree that is where some of the suspicions comes from as majority of Ogaden lands are part of two non Somali countries (Kenya & Ethiopia), however they
should be given the benefit of the doubt and be allowed to rule their parts of the deep south of Somalia they settle, provided they won't mess it up and add it
to the NFD of Kenya.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby DANGIRL » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:26 pm

if we deploy 50k ogs from ogadenia and another 30k from nfd? .
If a plan like this is put forward, I will support it. :up:

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby The`Republic » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:46 pm

Dan and Meta-

I don't know about the Ogaden, but have you guys traveled in the NFD?

I did; this was a video of Garisa I uploaded for Pat:

[youtube]orhl5zLjUTU&feature=plcp[/youtube]

I think Garissa is the biggest Ogaden town south of Dhagaxbuur and that "town" I estimated about 30-40% of the town was Kenyan (mostly Luo) civil servant and assorted other Kenyan nationals including Somalis. It has been heavily approximated to Nairobi due to geographics and has the tribal diversity of most sem-urban Kenyan centers. (About 15% of the entire time seemed to be Kenyan military of whom few were Somali). The biggest Ogaden-only town in Kenya is Masalani (the constituency of Yusuf Haji), literally I saw 5 semi-huts.

There are no other Ogaden towns in the NFD; none. The entire NFD is a bleak landscape with some small huts every 100 km. The Ogaden with Garisa and Masalani are in the southeast. The entire northern 2/3 does not have any Ogaden settlements. This Ogaden land moves to southeast to Lower Jubba in Somalia and again the arid and bleak west of Lower Jubba has no residencies. Ogaden literally have only Dhooblay and Af-Madoow towns in Somalia. Both are not 1/4 of say Beled-Xaawo which is but one Marehan town in Somalia. The town of Caabudwaaq I would bet has more Marehan than all Ogaden in Somalia and Kenya combined. Waana iga wallahi this is my opinion after seeing the land.

I think the case here is land vs. people. The town of Atlanta, Georgia has more people than the entire state of Montana, one of the biggest in the US.

p.s. All of this can be backed up by Google Maps.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Colonel » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:55 pm

The delusional man now calls us langaab :lol:
Is there any doubt in this man's ways of delusion?

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby metamorphosis » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:56 pm

:-@ here you are again with your unsubstantiated stats.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby The`Republic » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:59 pm

Colonel, you guys also seem to have a phobia about Marehan for something. Here are Kenyans in Garissa county protesting Kenya attempts to relocate Marehan refugees following some of the SNF wars in Somalia.

This was in 2002, cabsida intaas le'eg ka warn.
Kenyan Somali leaders reject govt's refugee relocation plan

GARISSA, Kenya, June 17 (AFP) - Kenyan leaders of Somali origin on Monday rejected a plan put forward by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) and the Kenyan government to relocate some 2,300 refugees from Somalia to camps in northern Kenya, saying they feared such a move could spark factional fighting.

Kenyan Somali spokesman Ahmed Nunow, who is also the leader of the Ogadeni Somali community here, told AFP on Monday that bringing "Marehan people to Dadaab Camp means they would soon be joined by other Marehans and would establish a link with militia forces in Somalia."

The Ogadenis, who are predominant in the Kenyan Somali-populated northeastern province, and the Marehans both belong to the larger Somali Darod clan.

They have been battling each other for control of southern Somalia's Lower Juba region since the overthrow in January 1991 of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre, himself a Marehan.

"We cannot gamble with our security," said Nunow, who is also the ruling Kenya African National Union (KANU) party's Garissa district chairman.

"Unless the Kenyan government and the UNHCR drives the Maheran back home, residents of Garrisa town -- the northeastern provincial headquarters -- would resist the efforts to settle them in the camps," he added.

"This relocation plan can create ethnic tension, increase banditry and worsen environmental degradation," said North Eastern Provincial Commissioner Mohamud Saleh, himself an ethnic Somali.


Up to 11,000 Marehan refugees who originally crossed the border into Kenya have returned to Somalia due to pressure from the Kenyan government and local residents, but 5,000 of them have already come back to Kenya because of the continuing insecurity in Somalia.

Kenya hosts some 231,000 refugees at Dadaad and Kakuma refugee camps. An additional 10,000 who had escaped factional fighting in Somalia's southern Gedo region were transfered to the two camps last week.

str-lto/kdz AFP

http://reliefweb.int/node/103854
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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Colonel » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:09 pm

You're now trying to turn this to make it look like Ogaden are anti Marexan? Saxiib do yourself a favor and take a day off from qabiyalaad. You need it.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Murax » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Metamorphis,

Whats so awe inspiring about these Ogaden in Galbeed that we should be shaking in our boots? Are they not the ones that sell each other out and jaajus on each other, sabatoge each other instead of having some friggin balls and fighting? Somalia isn't Kenya or Ethiopia that have Governments oo dadka kala celiyo and establish a nadaam. Somalia is a jungle where the weak get taken, and its a fact that Marehan have been pushing You furthur and furthur into Kenya and taking Your land. If You guys had any balls the distance from Galgaduud to Kismaayo and the difference from Galbeed to Kismaayo isn't that much different, wax suubi. Theres no charity here, and Somalia's not a homeless shelter. I've been sitting in Kismaayo, going on swims in the Indian Ocean, eating fish since '98 and Your weak ass has been talking the whole time. Your websites are in 24/7 crisis and calacal mode complaining and whining about Marehan gobbling up the very little villages You guys have in Somalia. The conversation of Marehan and Kismaao ended a long time ago. Now its Marehan in Janay Cabdalle, Beerxaani, Qooqaani iskaba ilow Kismaayo :mindblown:



Ka bood, right now You have Kenya which calls itself AMISOM and has the same mandate as AMISOM. The second they make their intentions clear that they want to transport their homeless citizens and establish them in Kismaayo We will go at them, as well as their 150 Ogadeen their foot massagers.

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby The`Republic » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Colonel-

Sxb, I can allow someone using the "Qabyaalad" card against me when it comes to Isaaq, Hawiye, etc etc etc. Not Ogadeen. Ina adeer kaftanka noo daji dheh but don't act like naag asaay gashay; Cagdheer iyo Sade waa dun isku tolan ee sometimes wadcigiina baad u baahantihiin. :ufdup:

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Re: Has Ras Kamboni crossed the line (BBC interview)

Postby Faranacab » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:15 pm

In Khalid, when Raskamboni was fighting the face masked Shababs, no Somali came from Moqadisho-Somalidisho city to assist them. And ow you want them to handle their balls and everything else to a man who is as qabiilist as any old school Somali. Even, your SNM couldn't trust these Squatters. So how do you expect them to do now? The turtle president's family are in Nairobi under protection of Yusuf Haji. His kids are Kenyans, more safe than any kid in Somalidisho city. He knows the truth, and soon will come to his sense after a strong PM is approved by the Parliament members whom both Ahmed Madobe and Gandhi are part of it. If everything works well in the coming four year term, then SNM will come back to the fold before Kambonis.

These men, and rest of the world would want to see how strong the Kamboonis are since they are real forces that with out them Kenya would never have dream to kick Shabaabs out. You will hear president listening to Kambonis and their allies, when he finds out their strength, instead of the spineless greedy politicians in Somalidisho city.


As for my cousins, the small teeth squatters, soon they would be Ogadenized as you were, and report positive news from Nairobi-the new Godey on behalf of you, as part of the new Kacaan. :D

After the expected post PM selection, it is clear that most Jubalanders will be Raskambooni's hard core supporters for their good discipline and determination to keep the city clean and calm. The native locals will even vote for them as their ever rulers and protectors of that part of that of the world as they freed them from Shababs.

Raska has to take care of the old dogs, who are hiding behind spineless new smiley face. :lol:
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