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The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

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The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Siciid85 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:58 pm

Monday did you seriously though that without Isaaq which is synonymous with reer Waqooyi that some of the delusional other reer Waqooyis stand a chance in the
south? Well let me let you this, Isaaq is 70-65% of the population in Waqooyi, so without them the other reer Waqooyis can't be something.Things like trying to make
Awdal state which does not even meet the federal state criteria of Somalia will not work, people like Prof Ahmed Samatar which you admire themselfs have already
realized that.It is time to think logically and get back to the drawing board and think of a better plan.

Good luck to him

but as a northern i find it very disappointing to appoint both president and pm from the southern part even after transition has ended.

Monday were you really hoping samatar to be the PM

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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Eaglehawk » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:10 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: this guy is sad wale

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Postby Siciid85 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:28 pm

Just telling it like it is.The truth might be harsh at times.

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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Mondey » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:16 pm

Saciid, even a Isaaq guy would never make it in the South this election as president, pm or even speaker under the current circumstances.. why didn't your boy Omaar become something in the south last election? can you tell us how many votes he got? we know he :ufdup:

Isaaq is like 60% of the north and any qualified non Isaaq northern could make it down south if only they had the full support of their gobol to lobby for them, Samatar went there with no support of his gobol since Isaaq is dragging the whole region down with their SL bullshidh, Awdal have to cut them loose if they want to succeed. no one needs the support of Isaaq we just need to cut them loose.

If Isaaq could help anyone they would've helped not being grouped under DIR.

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Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:20 pm

Saciid, even a Isaaq guy would never make it in the South this election as president, pm or even speaker under the current circumstances.. why didn't your boy Omaar become something in the south last election? can you tell us how many votes he got? we know he :ufdup:

Isaaq is like 60% of the north and any qualified non Isaaq northern could make it down south if only they had the full support of their gobol to lobby for them, Samatar went there with no support of his region since Isaaq is dragging the whole region down with their SL bullshidh, Awdal have to cut them loose if they want to succeed. no one needs the support of Isaaq we just need to cut them loose.

If Isaaq could help anyone they would've helped not being grouped under DIR.

Isaaqs that are in the federal parliament are all considerd traitors slaves so what makes you think we want to help traitors

Samatar is the most educated guy and he got 8 votes the most educated professor got 8 votes it didn't get him any where.

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Postby Siciid85 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:33 pm

Monday Omar wasn't representing Isaaq but his own self that is why he got 1 vote and the system wasn't on his side either.What i meant by that you can't be
something without Isaaq in the south is if Isaaq which are atleast 70% of the population of Waqooyi are not present in the south then you have no chance challenging
those southerners on south vs north basis. That applies for other smaller Waqooyi groups not just Awdal.Nevermind this government that only controls parts of south,
to refresh your memory when there was a government that controls from Ras Kambooni to Seylac in former Somali republic, who were representing Waqooyi (north)?
wasn't it Egal and Cabdilahi Jamaac Qaalib AUN? who both held the speaker of parliament and prime minister respectively. In conclusion without Isaaq on the
fold , it is difficult for reer Waqooyis to hold positions in the three top spots of the neighboring country. The sooner you realise that the better.



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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Mondey » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:49 pm

I said UNDER the current circumstances and not the past, there was no Samaroon politician of Samatars caliber back then. now Samatar was also representing himself like Omaar and not his region otherwise things would been different. Isaaq is tops 60% of the north that leaves you with 40% non Isaaq.. as i said no one needs "Isaaqs help" if they want to hold one of the top 3 seats. all an awdalite needs is make sure his region is unionists and gain their support plus the support of non Isaaq Dir.

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Postby Coldoon » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:52 pm

Did he just say Isaaq is 65% to 70% in Northern Somalia? :lol:

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Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:54 pm

Did he just say Isaaq is 65% to 70% in Northern Somalia? :lol:

in 1943 Isaaq was 66.5 percent of the population of British Somaliland i think they are now around 69% percent of the Population


Ciise isaaq samaroon make at-least 88% of the Somaliland population.

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Postby Coldoon » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:58 pm

Did he just say Isaaq is 65% to 70% in Northern Somalia? :lol:

in 1943 Isaaq was 66.5 percent of the population of British Somaliland i think they are now around 69% percent of the Population
:lol: :lol:

Funny how you recognize Northern Somalia as "British Somaliland Protectorate" and not as Northern Somalia. :lol:
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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Siciid85 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:00 pm

That is false, Dir were actively involved in politics that time you had a united party with the Hartis in former British Somaliland but due to your numbers you didn't
get many MPs in the 1960 parliament,while the Isaaq had two parties if not more, thus they were the sole legal representative of Waqooyi, which is still the case till
this day. Nevertheless the point is without Isaaq, as a Dir you can't challenge the southerners Rahanweyne, Hawiye, Daroods on north vs south basis due to your
people being outnumbered alot. Isaaq being 22% of former Somali republic atleast sidelined Rahanweyn and other major groups in the past.To correct you this is the
percentage each group was in the former british Somaliland population survey.


1.Isaaq - 65%

2.Harti - 20%

3.Dir - 15%

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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:04 pm

Republic Jamac cabdilahi Qaalib was the Speaker of parliament from 1960 till 1964

Sheikh mukhtaar was speaker of parliament from 1965 till 1969

Axmed sheikh maxamad cabsiye was from 1964 till 1965

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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby original dervish » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:07 pm

I think s/l really isnt on anyones agenda right now.
the international community/au /un etc have all told them.... no deal!
Somalia is the name of the game these days :D :som:

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Re: The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:07 pm

Did he just say Isaaq is 65% to 70% in Northern Somalia? :lol:

in 1943 Isaaq was 66.5 percent of the population of British Somaliland i think they are now around 69% percent of the Population
:lol: :lol:

Funny how you recognize Northern Somalia as "British Somaliland Protectorate" and not as Northern Somalia. :lol:

i was talking about 1943 and 1943 it was called the Somaliland British protectorate
from 1960 till 1991 it was called the nothern part of the Somali republic
from 1991 till present day its called the Somaliland republic.


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