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anarchist, when you look at things like healthcare, development and public order it sucks big time. lakin walahi being in your native country is priceless

X.Playa - Why Cali Galeyr? Why not the countless others who hail from your clan that could just as easily be accused?

Aniga waxaanba la dhacay dad Soomaali ah oo dalkooda ka shaqeysanaayo, si sharaf muteysan.

You can see Bantus in the video and female technicians in the labs testing the sugar after production.

I think most of us have either forgotten or have never known what it is like to live in one's country in peace & with dignity, and specially without qabyaalad divisiveness.

Fact are facts and fiction is fiction , the man who robbed pilleged that place was Ali Khaliif Galaydh no doubt wether your clan likes it or not, the point is not my clan or yours the point is the same people who robbed the somali state factories are today in somali politics, welcomed by their clan cheered and rooted, .

Somalia will never ever raise above the ashes of ruin when Cali Khaliif Galaydh and Maslax and the son of the notorious Muuse Bidaar have the audacity to run for presidency and the somali people have the short memory to welcome these people all under the name of clan soliderity.

Videos like these fill me with resentment I often forget I have. I find myself questioning how I would have been different given the chance to have been raised there in peace. I realize how selfish that may be, given the circumstances of so many on the ground, but I can't help myself in wondering.

Same here. I left before i turned one and all I know about that place is all the stories i have been told and all the books plus essays i have read about it. I now realize I cant really know how it feels to be there unless i really go and live there.

Yeah, also left before I was one. Though I think even if I go back, for whatever reason, I doubt I'll be at home. Like hyper said, it's all fairy tales to me.

Videos like these fill me with resentment I often forget I have. I find myself questioning how I would have been different given the chance to have been raised there in peace. I realize how selfish that may be, given the circumstances of so many on the ground, but I can't help myself in wondering.

Same here. I left before i turned one and all I know about that place is all the stories i have been told and all the books plus essays i have read about it. I now realize I cant really know how it feels to be there unless i really go and live there.

Yeah, also left before I was one. Though I think even if I go back, for whatever reason, I doubt I'll be at home. Like hyper said, it's all fairy tales to me.

Maybe our kids will have a place to call home because we have already missed out on much! I always find it weird when I hear elders saying they will take their kids back to somalia so the kids can "relearn" their culture and have the same experiences as them. Thats impossible because those kids have never been to somalia so there is really nothing for them to relearn. My dad wanted to send me back 10 years ago thank God my mom refused!

Call me pessimist or whatever, but no im not proud anything that was made by the white man. I mean all the roads, factories and biggest buildings were made either by the white white men or chinese men. The day somalis do it all by themselves then im proud. Not proud of today nor yesterderday.

@Cumar - Development, but what else has Somaliland gained? Somalilanders are today just as disenfranchised and scattered across the globe as the average Wanlaweyn, no? Maxaa soo kordhay?

X.playa - You have clan grievances I have nothing to do with and trying your hardest to interject the same divisiveness I mentioned brought nothing but destruction. Donut shopska la'aad sheekadaas.


For anyone interested, here's another documentary someone posted before:




@meta - You should've gone to Somalia when you were offered. It would've made a difference in how you think.

Why didn't you?

Call me pessimist or whatever, but no im not proud anything that was made by the white man. I mean all the roads, factories and biggest buildings were made either by the white white men or chinese men. The day somalis do it all by themselves then im proud. Not proud of today nor yesterderday.

That was the only way things got done in Africa & in much of the developing world. Somalia simply did not have these large corporations/firms that specialized in manufacturing & planning.

The Chinese were Somalia's allies and footed the Faanoole project, why would anyone refuse that?

Besides, once in place -- most of the work was done by Somalis. Fast forward to part 4 and you'll see all the Somali workers, specially the factory workers starting @ 4.15 as being young Somalis.

Anarchist because my dad had a hidden agenda. My brothers told me he wanted to send me back to somalia for couple months then put me in a boarding school in kenya. Boarding schools are like prison dude.

Anarchist because my dad had a hidden agenda. My brothers told me he wanted to send me back to somalia for couple months then put me in a boarding school in kenya. Boarding schools are like prison dude.

Good thing you found out soon enough.

Odayaasha waa lagu yaqaan those sort of games. Maybe you'll have a chance to go on your own, someday. It will help put a lot of things in to perspective for you.

You'll finally make some peace with a lot of things & see your clan isn't necessarily all that you believed they were. You'll see like everyone else, they are human.

Anarchist because my dad had a hidden agenda. My brothers told me he wanted to send me back to somalia for couple months then put me in a boarding school in kenya. Boarding schools are like prison dude.

Good thing you found out soon enough.

Odayaasha waa lagu yaqaan those sort of games. Maybe you'll have a chance to go on your own, someday. It will help put a lot of things in to perspective for you.

You'll finally make some peace with a lot of things & see your clan isn't necessarily all that you believed they were. You'll see like everyone else, they are human.

Inshallah. We might go back next summer if things go according to my dads plans. The thing is its better when you are young because you can compare your past experiences with your adult experiences. But now when I go there it will be like seeing everything for the first time and that isnt necessarily bad but it doesnt come close to what you would feel if you go back.

@Cumar - Development, but what else has Somaliland gained? Somalilanders are today just as disenfranchised and scattered across the globe as the average Wanlaweyn, no? Maxaa soo kordhay?

what more should they gain, should they open up a space programme. Realistically speaking an unrecognised country who neighbours equally poor countries (djibouti, somalia, ethiopia) peace and development is a good start. For a start where would they get the funds the previous govt. did and also who would invest in an unstable region (horn of africa)
Those who are scattered, including myself, are they because of the effects of the civil war. However, a number of people have moved back and those who haven't stay because africa doesn't compare to europe/america.

@meta - Just remember to approach your return a bit guarded. I've gone back twice since leaving Somalia and tbh, the people have become a product of their environment. If they see you as a maskiin guy from qurbaha, it's a greenlight to become preyed on. Everyone wants a hand-out and some more than others will try the qabiil card on you. Marka, is ilaali. It was hard to grasp the level of destruction and the state of the country the first time I went there, but not as bad the second time. We adapt, I guess. But, the scars are always there. Sometimes I think your generation were maybe more fortunate?


@Cumar - Do you think if Somaliland won its independence, more people would have returned? I get the feeling that people are stagnant and virtually stuck. A cloud of uncertainty hovering over their heads, with no clear future foresight? It's still not clear which way Somaliland is going to go, yet and people are stuck?

Anarchist, of course majority won't return if that happens it is the same reason many other african diaspora remain in the west of asian basically every group who come from third world countries. Do you know before the civil war there was a decent sized somali community in the middle east, the UK and some in America. They stayed there to escape poverty.

we were once before, and we can be again in the near future insha`llah.

Dont be too pessimistic, Jubbaland will soon be formed and we can finally realise the potential of the Jubbas.
xplayer...longest serrving s/l president to date, one Mr Dahir Riyale

Muslim-man, Koronto, Kolombo, with his new dirac I assume wants a hug. How about a bullet in the chest? That ought see Somalia on a brighter path.