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conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby waryaa » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:08 am

I dnt her name, background or anything else about her but this lady the prime minister is about to announce as the foreign affairs minister is allegedly a die-hard somaliland secessionist. Some parliament members are now collecting documents showing her involvement in Somaliland's ambition to secede from the the rest of the country and want to vote against any cabinet that includes her. Their argument is "how can you appoint such a secessionist person to the ministry that is supposed to fight it."

Another thing is that the president insisted 10-minister cabinet - that's probably what they will announce today. The PM wants more ministers but he gave in due to lack of time for more negotiations before the deadline, which is a day or so away.

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby oxymoron » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:20 am

I dnt her name, background or anything else about her but this lady the prime minister is about to announce as the foreign affairs minister is allegedly a die-hard somaliland secessionist. Some parliament members are now collecting documents showing her involvement in Somaliland's ambition to secede from the the rest of the country and want to vote against any cabinet that includes her. Their argument is "how can you appoint such a secessionist person to the ministry that is supposed to fight it."

Another thing is that the president insisted 10-minister cabinet - that's probably what they will announce today. The PM wants more ministers but he gave in due to lack of time for more negotiations before the deadline, which is a day or so away.
Waryaa your in Xamar so ma aha? What's the political atmosphere there? President Hassan was popular with everyone the day he was chosen President & even with the appointed of his Prime Minister but now it seems this whole government is turning into a joke and popularity levels are hitting rock bottom. A whole nation is waiting on this government and precious time is being put to waste. Why is everything moving so slow in Xamar? What are the obstacles?

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby waryaa » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:40 am

ox, the fun is about to start today.

Parliament members made it clear that they will reject any cabinet with less than 18 ministers and the president is determined to stick to 10-member cabinet, unless he changed his mind in the past 24 hours. That's what has been keeping things in hiatus. Now, the deadline to get a cabinet is about to end and last minute compromises are expected.

The problem is that the new president wants to change the country's political landscape by bypassing clan elders, old norms, etc. Let's see if it works. He's taken Faroole route - minimize clan elder's voice.

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby Twist » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:43 am

I don't mean to sound pessimistic but I kinda lost hope in my people & country a while ago.

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby waryaa » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:49 am

twist, nations go through turmoil and we are not the 1st. Even worse, political maps are not permanent and nations come and go :)

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby oxymoron » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:57 am

ox, the fun is about to start today.

Parliament members made it clear that they will reject any cabinet with less than 18 ministers and the president is determined to stick to 10-member cabinet, unless he changed his mind in the past 24 hours. That's what has been keeping things in hiatus. Now, the deadline to get a cabinet is about to end and last minute compromises are expected.

The problem is that the new president wants to change the country's political landscape by bypassing clan elders, old norms, etc. Let's see if it works. He's taken Faroole route - minimize clan elder's voice.
Does he not think members of Parliament will keep their word & reject any cabinet with less than 18 ministers? Or does he think members of Parliament are in love with him since they voted him in overwhelmingly? Ya ku sheego elections are over and smiles are no longer needed.

ps: You can't just change the country's political landscape overnight, dam this thing is about to backfire big time and give this dude a reality check.
Faroole was patient and slowly changed things nor did he attempt to make big changes within 3 months of his Presidency. :lol:

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby razer » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:36 am

This president has slready got the vultures circling.even thogh thos opposing this proposed nomination have genuine issue if he backs down and gives in the he will be in a weaker position so go on brother and stick with first choice

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby original dervish » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:27 am

Nah .....his "presidency" was finished before it even started.
The man is totally unsuited to an executive role. He lacks all the attributes needed to lead a nation in turmoil.
He has no intelligence, decisiveness, pragmatism, wisdom, humility and most importantly, vision.

Just like all Somali "leaders", he has overplayed his hand and his bluff/ presidency is about to be called. :D :up: :som:

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby PrinceDaadi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:51 am

This is what I have saying, this lady can't be the foreign minister of Somalia because she doesn't believe the unity of Somalia.

Not that m saying Somalia should stay as united.

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby Twist » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:01 am

Waryaa, Alla karim, sxb.
This is what I have saying, this lady can't be the foreign minister of Somalia because she doesn't believe the unity of Somalia.

Not that m saying Somalia should stay as united.
Don't your statements contradict, Daadi? And mind to elaborate why Somalia should not stay united?

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby Mondey » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:35 am

baarlamanka in la edbiyo ayuu u baahan yahay,, madaxweynaha inay hor istaagaan in the first one or so month maaha.

the only thing wrong with this govt is the old bribe taking retards in the so called parliament. i mean what do expect from members that were hand picked by their illiterate clan elders!!

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby PrinceDaadi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:54 pm

Waryaa, Alla karim, sxb.
This is what I have saying, this lady can't be the foreign minister of Somalia because she doesn't believe the unity of Somalia.

Not that m saying Somalia should stay as united.
Don't your statements contradict, Daadi? And mind to elaborate why Somalia should not stay united?
They are not contracting, the government is contradicting, while saying unity of Somalia is not negotiable they are appointing their foreign minister a lady who weeks ago believed the Somaliland project.


As Daadi, m a believer in South, i did believed that South of Somalia should break away from Sland and Pland, I believe that Southern people are more governable. Never the less few weeks back i had dinner with group of friends n we had a debate about this subject and while they did appreciated my point they persuaded me the the unity of Somalia is important for the long run.

The point they raised were quite important which forced me to reconsider my position regarding the unity of Somalia.

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby The_Emperior5 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:02 pm

Prince daadi the government in Somalia never said the unity is non negotiable the new president of Somalia said it him self he wants the union to be re negotiated based on the two states that united in 1960 he event as far as saying that there might not be even a union when he said hadii ba aynu midowno so he is not certain about the union he wants it but he doesn't believe in a forced union.

Prince daadi ur not like the other koonfurians but on the other hand koonfurians need Somaliland .. but Somaliland doesn't need Somalia

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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby KingBlack » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:08 pm

Prince daadi the government in Somalia never said the unity is non negotiable the new president of Somalia said it him self he wants the union to be re negotiated based on the two states that united in 1960 he event as far as saying that there might not be even a union when he said hadii ba aynu midowno so he is not certain about the union he wants it but he doesn't believe in a forced union.

Prince daadi ur not like the other koonfurians but on the other hand koonfurians need Somaliland .. but Somaliland doesn't need Somalia
:lol: thats y they use their area code 252 , and air space under somali state , passports and get Aid in the name of "somalia" sland has no reason to separate and 30.000 somalis dead cus of idoor led shababist
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Re: conroversy over proposed minister of foreign affairs

Postby PrinceDaadi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:11 pm

The_Emperior5: I dont think we should argue who needs who now!


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