Has The New Prime Minister Turned Out To Be A Real Puppet?

[oxymoron]

Has The New Prime Minister Turned Out To Be A Real Puppet? This is a real question my fellow Marehan Somalineters don't take this as a insult to beesha. Were talking about a single guy most of you guys did not know yesterday.

I rise this serious question after seeing the Prime Minister not using his executive powers, and even surrendering some to the President.

President Hassab Sheikh looks as if he is running the whole show single-handedly. The Prime Minister should take into consideration the suggestions & opinions of the President, but ultimately make the final calls. But not only did the President have the final say in the number of ministers to be named, he was in control of the whole process as we have all come to learn.

Fiqikhayre SOL

what is worse is that key ministeries have been 'put together' in large scale mergers and each department will have a under-secretary directly appointed by the President in which the Prime Minister has no say on it. This undersecretaries will run all the departments and are accountable to the Presidents office, who will name each of them. They're secret executive 'ministers'.

The Prime minister has been duped to name four of the most important ministeries who are in line with the President's thought's and religious sub-grouping of the new blood of the splinter group that comes under Al Islah Al Islami.

For example:

The minister of public service the ministry is split into three sub ministires with each having a separate under-secretary.

A. The Department of Health which was formerly the Ministry of Health

B. The Department of Women and Family Affairs.

C. The Department of Education which was formerly the Ministry of Education and Higher Learning

This undersecretaries are second-in-command and they're appointed with a separate Presidential decree.

The President has smartly renamed "deputy-ministers" as "Undersecretaries" which the Federal Constitution says should be named by the Prime Minister.

Why is the Prime Minister giving up his Executive Powers to the President?

Article 97. The Council of Ministers
(1) The executive power of the Federal Government shall be vested in the Council of Ministers, in
accordance with the Constitution.
(2) The Council of Ministers is the highest executive authority of the Federal Government and consists
of the Prime Minister, the deputy prime minister (s), ministers, state ministers and deputy-ministers.
(3) The Prime Minister shall appoint deputy prime ministers, ministers, state ministers, and deputy
ministers. Those eligible for membership of the Council of Ministers may be, but shall not be
limited to, members of the House of the People of the Federal Parliament.
(4) Vacancy in the office of the Prime Minister caused by the resignation, dismissal, failure to fulfill
responsibility, or death of the Prime Minister shall lead to the dissolution of the Council of
Ministers.

Article 100. Responsibilities and Powers of the Prime Minister
The responsibilities of the Prime Minister are to:
(a) Be the Head of the Federal Government;
(b) Appoint and dismiss members of the Council of Ministers;
(c) Present the Council of Ministers and government program before the House of the People
of the Federal Parliament to seek their endorsement;
(d) Carry out any other function conferred upon him or her by the Constitution or by any other
law that complies with the Constitution and its underlying values.

Maxaa ku hoos qarsoon 10 ka Wasiir–Madaxweyne Xasan oo sitoosa awoodii ugala wareegey Baarlamaanka iyo Raysal wasaaraha.

Faalada Maanta–04 Nov. 2012: Sida aan la socono fikirka in Golaha Wasiirada laga dhigo Toban Wasiir waxaa la yimid Madaxweynaha, taasna waxaa cad in arimo badan oo qarsoon ay jiraan oo aan hada xogtooda helney iyo sababta keentey in Madaxweynuhu uu ku adkeysto tobankaan Wasaaradood.

Madaxweyne Xasan Sheikh Maxamuud tan iyo markuu xukunka la wareegey wuxuu hoosta ku watey kooxda ay isku fikirka yihiin ee Damujadiid, kooxdaan waxaa ka go’an iney iyaga oo kaliya awooda dalka gacanta ku hayaan iyadoo Raysal waaaraha iyo Baarlamaanku wax faragalin ah ku samayn, si aytaas u heleen waa inay la yimaadaan qorshe siyaasadaysan oo laga gadi karo Raysal wasaaraha, Baarlamaanka iyo shacabka Soomaaliyeed.

Madaxweyne Xasan iyo Damajadiid waxay fakar dheer ka dib la yimaadeen qorshe siyaasadeysan oo Dastuurkana aan ka hor imaaneyn, Si fududna ay awooda dalka gacanta ugu haynayaan.

Siyaasda ka dambeysa tobanka wasiir iyo sida ay Damujadiid Awooda Dalka ula wareegeen, iyagoon ka baqayn Raysal Wasaare iyo Baarlamaantoona/

Sababta ay Damujadiid ugu fakareen in ay xukuumadu aysan ka badan toban wasiir waa inay iyagu si dadban gacanta ugu dhigaan wasaaradaha oo dhan, Madaxweynuhu wuxuu awood u leeyahay inuu isagu magacaabo Agaasimayaasha wasaaradaha, wuxuu kaloo soo wadaa Wakaalado kuwasoo badalay wasaaradaha aan la magacaabin.

Tusaale ahaan:- Wasaaradii Caafimaadka, Wasaradii Wasaaradii Dekadaha, Wasaaradii Gaadiidka Cirka iyo Dhulka, Wasaradii Ganacsiga, Wasaaradii Haweenka iyo Lqoyska, Wasaaradii Waxbarashada, dhamaantood waxaa loo badali doonaa Wakaalado waxaana Agaasimayaasha hogaamin doona soo magacaabi doona Madaxweynaha.

Dhinaca kale Wasiirada lamagacaabey Qaarkood awood saasa ma yeelan doonaan sababtoo ah Wasaaradaha loomagaacabay ma noqonayaan kuwo jira ama awood yeelanaya, Tusaale ahaan- ..

1- Wasiirka loogu yeerey Wasiirka Wasaarada Kheyraadka:- Wasaaradaan waxaa loo kala saari doonaa dhowr wakaaladood oo kala noqon doona A- Wakaalada Shidaalka iyo Macdanta B- Wakaalada Xanaanada Xoolaha iyo Reer Guuraaga C- Wakaalada Beeraha iyo D- Wakaalada Kaluumeysiga iyo Keyraadka Bada, dhamaan Wakaaladahaan waxay yeelan doonaan Maareeyaal(Agaasimeyaal) uu Madaxweynuhu soo magacaabeyo, Maareeyaalka ama Agaasimayaalku waa magac u yaal lakiin xaqiiqda Waa Wasiir qarsoon oo awoodii wasiirka leh, waxayna toos u hoos imaanayaan Madaxweynaha.

2- Wasiirka Wasarada Adeega Bulshada:- Wasaaradaan waxaa loo kala qaybin doonaa, A- Wakaalada Caafimaadka oo lagu badalay waaasardii Caafimaadka, B- Wakaalada Qoyska iyo haweenka, C- Wakaalada Waxbarashada oo lagu badalay wasaradii kaamilka ahayd ee Waxbarashada iyo Tacliinta Sare.

3- Wasiirka Wasaarada Warshadaha;- Wasaaradaan waxaa lookala qaybin doonaa labo Wakaaladood oo kala ah, A- Wakaalada Warshadaha iyo B- Wakaalada Ganacsiga.

Dhamaan wakaaladahaan waxay badalayaan Wasaaradihii horey u jirey uuna hogaamiyahooda xaqa u lahaa inuu magacaabo Raysal wasaaruhu lakiinse hada Wasaradihii magacii baa laga badalay waxaana wasiiradooda soo magacaabaya Madaxwaynahan iyagoo loogu yeeri doono Maareeyaha Wakaalad hebla ama Agaasimaha Wakaalad hebla, waxaana jagooyinkaan yeelan doona 95% Xubnaha Damujadiid.

Sidaas bay damujadiid awooda dalka kula waregeen, Raysal Waaaraha iyo Baarlamaanka oo Markhaati ahaan meesha u taagnaan doona, sababtoo ah Madaxweyaha iyo Kooxdiisu waxay awooda ula waregeen habkaan oo ah mid aan Dastuurka kasoo horjeedin, umana ay baahna in Baarlamaan kalsooni u qaado Agaasimayaasha ay soo dirsadaan, Mana hoos imaanayaan Raysal wasaaraha.

Damujadiid waxay kaloo isticmaaleen Maskax cajiib ah, Raysal wasaraha oo aan waxba kala socon qorshohooda qarsoon ee ku dhisan wasaaradaha qarsoon waxay ku qanciyeen si uusan u shakiyin inuu isagu keensado Waiirada Afarta Wasaaradood ee waawen oo kala ah.

1- Wasaarada Arimaha Dibada
2- Wasaarada Gaashaandhiga
3-Wasaarada Maaliyada
4Wasaarada Arimaha Dibada

Raysal wasaaruhu wuxuu wasaaradahaan keeney Dad u muuqda macquul oo kasoo bixi kara shaqadooda lakin waxaa meesha ka maqan oo raysal wasaaruhu uusan la socon qorshayaasha ay Damujadiid wataan ee ku dhisan habka Wakaaladeynta wasaaradaha.

Maskaxda kale ee ay isticmaaleen waxaa weeye in Siyaasada Dibada iyana uu Madaxweynuhu kala wareego Raysal wasaaraha, Madaxweynuhu waa inuu isagu qaabilaa Beesha Caalamka marka ay imaanayaan Muqdisho, lagana dheereeyaa Raysal wasaaraha, taasi waxay saamaxaysaa in Damujadiid ay Arimaha Dibadana si dadban ula wareegaan.

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after writing all that they admitted the whole article is hearsay at least make up the source. what a way to discredit yourself.

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[original dervish]

I think there is enough evidence out there to suggest the article is not wholly untrue.

[The`Republic]

The writing as judged from the tone discredits it. The authors paint themselves to be in opposition to the new President from that we can derive their objectives for the Prime Minister is to deadlock the government.

The question about being a puppet in general presents three counter questions:

1. Is the expectation of governance in Somalia to be one about a "whole" or competing "halves"?
2. Are we aware of the dynamics concerning the working and personal relationship between the President and Prime Minister?
3. What is legitimate criticism by those who find themselves in the opposition?

1. Somalia in civil war has been one about factions. Full stop. Period. The civil war was about clan factions and so was the first half of the transitional phase (Abdiqasim and Abdullahi Yusuf). The second phase of the transition (Sheikh Sharif governments) was also about factions but political factions do to the influence of the ICU that changed the political landscape. If we look at when Sheikh Sharif came to power, the Abdirashid government was one about ICU, ARS, and Yusuf-TFG sharing the government. I remember reading a great article on why the Abdirashiid government was doomed to fail because you had people in council of ministers in opposition to each other due to the power-sharing formula. I mean the extent to which unity existed was only on the basis of their being ministers and nothing else.

Is the proper role of Somalia governance to have power-sharing formula where the political system is gridlocked or to have a "Team" of a whole that work together?

Farmaajo's government was the first government (much smaller then the previous governments and not nominated because of power-sharing) that functioned as a "team" and we know the success that government had. In fact Farmaajo's main triumph that he consistently underscored was that political infighting between the President/Prime Minister/Council of Ministers was drastically limited and that disagreements were handled privately and compromised on.

Is the new Prime Minister Shirdoon supposed to work with the President, form a unit, and speak with one voice or to be in opposition to the president, have a divided government, and speak against each other?

Our history tells us we expect division, disagreement, and a gridlocked system. The new political dispensation since Farmaajo's government points to a realization by the Somali leaders that they are a unit, form one whole, and are supposed to function as a team with the same vision and voice. When you understand this you will understand why some expect to see disagreement or will label one side as "puppet." We are simply not used to people who work together as one but this is being changed by the conditioning we are undergoing recently much to satisfaction.

2. We are not aware of the dynamics concerning the President and Prime Minister. It is important to remember even while the Prime Minister is the head of government, legally has the right to name the council of ministers, and legally holds executive powers, and cannot be fired by the President but by the Parliament that the Prime Minister is still nominated by the President. This means the Prime Minister already shares the vision, style, and objectives of the President. Why would the President name a person he has significant philosophical disagreements with and risk a polarized political gridlock? President Hassan named Mr Shirdoon as Prime Minister and by this we can infer that most likely the Prime Minister and the President share a lot and have a lot of in common---they could be friends, have worked together over a long period of time, have the same political philosophy, agree on many existing issues, and are in agreement about many things. The President took the full 30 days to name this Prime Minister which means the President tried very hard to have a Prime Minister he is compatible with.

If the President and Prime Minister are agreeing on many things---this is the expectation.

3. Our history in civil war says there are many divisions, existing suspicions, lack of goodwill, factions, political friction, and generall ill-feelings towards each other. We can assume that from the very first day, there were those who carried grudges towards the President. Perhaps they were so dissatisfied with his election they cannot bring to have any goodwill towards him? Perhaps they were so dissatisfied with his pick for PM---whether for clan reasons, personal reasons, etc---that they cannot bare to have any goodwill for his government? Rush Limbaugh from the first day Obama took office said "I hope the President fails"---sparking a malestorm of criticism. Similarly in this case we can assume there are those who have no desire to see this government succeed at all. If this becomes the case, I think there needs to be parameters formed in the developing Somali political culture that judges exactly what is considered responsible, civil, and fair from the opposition. In this case, as judged from the tone of the opposition, their hope is to instigate political gridlock by expressing a desire to see a President and Prime Minister that are clashing. This ultimately is what is behind the rationale that attempts to paint the Prime Minister as a puppet simply because him and the President have agreed and from the initial beginnings no less---which might I remind you is the expectation.

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after writing all that they admitted the whole article is hearsay at least make up the source. what a way to discredit yourself.

This does not need a source, it's reality a process in the making at this very moment. Haven't you asked yourself where the other key Ministerial posts are?

Where is the Ministry of Education? The Ministry of Health? The Ministry of Women and Family Affairs?

Where is the Ministry of Land & Sea?

If these other ministries are going to be turned into Departments with undersecretaries, it's a whole different political platform not covered in the Constitution.
The President is empowering himself while at the same time depowering the Prime Minister and the role his position is suppose to play.

Haven't you asked yourself why the 10 Ministers Pointed today did not come with deputy prime ministers?

Why hasn't the Prime Minister pointed the state ministers as they are part of the cabinet as stated in the new Federal Constitution?

Common Sense Does Not Require A Source.

[original dervish]

It would be difficult to argue that the "president" is not micro managing the whole governmental process.
Thats why its taken republic hundreds of words to suggest, unconvincingly, otherwise.

Most of the ministers are connected to the "president" , whether it be NGOs, Islamist or family/friends.
This is not an ideal recipe for successful government.

Effective government needs strong characters and dissenting voices to counter balance Somali authoritarian tendencies.
The old pals act that has been assembled will do nothing other than rubber stamp presidential edicts.

The presence of abulqasim, acting as the "presidents" chief advisor is perhaps the most alarming development.
Abdulqasim is known to all Somalis as a universal failure, using his presidency to enrich his subclan at the expense of Jubbalanders.

[oxymoron]

The`Republic: You made some valid points but one must understand things are much different today. We have a legit Federal Parliament, & A Federal Constitution. We have a system of check & Balance.

The Somali Federal Parliament has Constitutional Powers.

The Speak of Parliament has Constitutional Powers, specific role he plays in this Government.

The President has Constitutional Powers & specific role he plays in this Government.

The Prime Minister has Constitutional Powers & specific role he plays in this Government.

The political system you speak of is no where near ours. This is not a all powerful President and weak assistant Vice President with no Constitutional powers. If we wanted that we hell sure would have choicen such a system.

The Prime Minister needs to uphold his Constitutional rights as that is what is expected of him. Not siding with the President in the reformation of the Government structure, which he is responsible for.

Disagreements will not hold this government hostage as the Constitution decides who is right and wrong. The old days are over, we have a Constitution in place to keep things moving.

[oxymoron]

It would be difficult to argue that the "president" is not micro managing the whole governmental process.
Thats why its taken republic hundreds of words to suggest, unconvincingly, otherwise.

Most of the ministers are connected to the "president" , whether it be NGOs, Islamist or family/friends.
This is not an ideal recipe for successful government.

Effective government needs strong characters and dissenting voices to counter balance Somali authoritarian tendencies.
The old pals act that has been assembled will do nothing other than rubber stamp presidential edicts.

The presence of abulqasim, acting as the "presidents" chief advisor is perhaps the most alarming development.
Abdulqasim is known to all Somalis as a universal failure, using his presidency to enrich his subclan at the expense of Jubbalanders.

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