Puntland's Minsiter visits awoowe Darod's tomb in Sanaag

[DANGIRL]

Subaxan'Allah, they should level it to the ground, and why did they build a mosque over it. Ilahaay kama cabsadaan

Idiot.

[CaliBurco]

Majerteen oo suujuudaya, Allah beenta.

[Mondey]

Subaxan'Allah, they should level it to the ground, and why did they build a mosque over it. Ilahaay kama cabsadaan

Why level it no need for that.. in shariica visiting qabuuraha is normal just acknowledge people and stop them from praying and asking blessings from a dead man.

[GeoSeven]

People who claim to be descendant of a man who died in 1404 Abdisamad ibrahim ismaciil Jabarti died in 1404 entire daarood tribes were taking part of the Ahmed Guray wars Harla koombe and Merehaan daarood and Ahmed Guray lived around the same time I think you guys are oromos especially Majeeerteen they count over 35 generation to harti

Jonge zoek je echte vader Ismaciil Jabarti was niet je vader

Darood ancestor died in 1404? This shit doesnt make sense. How come there were so many Darood clans fighting alongside the Adal Sultanate markaa? Someone explain this stuff to me cause its downright confusing

Where did you hear that from ?

Saxiib I heard a few times on this forum and read in the book Coquest of Ethiopia. It states that there were some Darood groups fighting there, especially the Geri I think. Also some Marehans here were saying Ahmad Gurey or some Imaam Nuur or something like that was Marehan. Nicca this shit is all confusing, wax la rumeeysan karo meesha majirto saaxiib. Soomalida invent their own goddamn history. Niccas need stop lying about history yo.

[Executive]

Subaxan'Allah, they should level it to the ground, and why did they build a mosque over it. Ilahaay kama cabsadaan

Is their fear of God only legitimate by your understanding? You are judging them by your own standards, this does not preclude them from fearing God. In fact, they could be fearing God more than you, it's just that they do not consider what you consider wrong. Stop coming with this attitude of arrogance, you do not have a monopoly of the 'fear of God'.

Stop the calaacal and come with some substance, you are quick to dismiss everything I say without any substance whatsoever, you see. Since when was it OK to build a mosque over a grave??

[Executive]

Subaxan'Allah, they should level it to the ground, and why did they build a mosque over it. Ilahaay kama cabsadaan

Why level it no need for that.. in shariica visiting qabuuraha is normal just acknowledge people and stop them from praying and asking blessings from a dead man.

Why was it raised in the first place and why was a mosque built over it?

[X.Playa]

إسماعيل بن إبراهيم بن عبد الصمد الجبرتي

yup that dude died in 1404 and the one buried highland is sippose to be his son and daarood claim decent from that dude and go figuer they count crazy 35 generation from basially the 15 century

[Gantaal05]

إسماعيل بن إبراهيم بن عبد الصمد الجبرتي

yup that dude died in 1404 and the one buried highland is sippose to be his son and daarood claim decent from that dude and go figuer they count crazy 35 generation from basially the 15 century

that is he's Grandfathers burial place not daarod ismaéil

[X.Playa]

lool grandfather , that will even make it crazy because Axmed Guray was born in 1480 techincally he was a contemporary of this man lool , it doesn't make any sense at all.

[daiman]

Subaxan'Allah, they should level it to the ground, and why did they build a mosque over it. Ilahaay kama cabsadaan

Would you want your grandfather's grave to be leveled to the ground? would you stop your family visitng his qabri and looking after the grave? would that account as worshipping the grave or remembering him and making duaas for him? visiting qabris is in fact recommended as it should remind us of very own mortality. also there is no reference in Islam that forbids building a grave in a mosque. actualy, there are mosques built around many muslim scholars.The grave of sheikh darrod is part of somali history and particularly daarood history. who are you to level it?

you, advo and those with similar attitude really need good islamic education. sheikh daarood's tomb has been there for hundreths of years and i NEVER heard anyone worshiping it, are you saying we are all the sudden start worshipping the grave

the news only said ' visited' not worshipped!

[Executive]

If you want to remember him, u ducey or pay sadaqa on his behalf, if you really want him to benefit for your remembrance. But don't raise his grave and build a mosque over it and tell us its the islamic tradition. Wa qurafah

[daiman]

If you want to remember him, u ducey or pay sadaqa on his behalf, if you really want him to benefit for your remembrance. But don't raise his grave and build a mosque over it and tell us its the islamic tradition. Wa qurafah

1- why do we have graves in Muslim countries? and identify the person's qabri?
answer: to honour the person, to remember him but also that the dead have rights. That is their finaly home, in fact real home. We are not even allowed to build houses over graves. What does this tell you? it tells you that it is cruel to even comtemplate to destroy someone' qabri. BLOODY! the person lives there in a way that we do not know. But onething is certain that the dead can communicate with his neighbours. so you should not touch someone's grave as long as you identify the place as qabri.


2- it is OK to build qabri around the person's grave. It has been happening all along. Many Muslim scholars have had mosque built around their grave.

can you give me one reference that forbids this as haram?

plus you have not answered my questions: would you allow somoen to destroy your gfather's grave? or stop someone to visit his qabri?

[Executive]

If you want to remember him, u ducey or pay sadaqa on his behalf, if you really want him to benefit for your remembrance. But don't raise his grave and build a mosque over it and tell us its the islamic tradition. Wa qurafah

1- why do we have graves in Muslim countries? and identify the person's qabri?
answer: to honour the person, to remember him but also that the dead have rights. That is their finaly home, in fact real home. We are not even allowed to build houses over graves. What does this tell you? it tells you that it is cruel to even comtemplate to destroy someone' qabri. bloody, the person lives there in a way that we do not know. But onething is certain that the dead can communicate with his neighbours. so you should not touch someone's grave as long as you identify the place as qabri.


2- it is OK to build qabri around the person's grave. It has been happening all along. Many Muslim scholars have had mosque built around their grave.

can you give me one reference that forbids this is haram?

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Those who came before you took the graves of their Prophets and righteous people as places of worship. Do not take graves as places of worship – I forbid you to do that.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 532, from Jundab ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali)



This is probably how his graved looked liked originally



and few 100s years later this is how his look like inside a mosque

[daiman]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Those who came before you took the graves of their Prophets and righteous people as places of worship. Do not take graves as places of worship – I forbid you to do that.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 532, from Jundab ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali)''


Have you seen anyone taking sheikh ismal's grave as a place of worship?

so this hadith is irrelavant to my question.

another question:

im sure you know imam al-nawawi. have tou heard anyone worshipping him or taking his grave as a place of worship yet a mosque is built around his qabri.

the pictures you provided shows some moderation to the qabrih, i personally would like it to be kept in its original way but i do not see anything wrong with that. My grandmother kept pouring some water over her son's grave.....and planting trees over it untill we left the place. it is caring for the person in there.
as i saif sheikh daarod's tomb is part of our history and his qabri should be kept there that is why( they perhaps) modified the grave.

[Executive]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Those who came before you took the graves of their Prophets and righteous people as places of worship. Do not take graves as places of worship – I forbid you to do that.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 532, from Jundab ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali)''


Have you seen anyone taking sheikh ismal's grave as a place of worship?

Its inside a MOSQUE, Don't you say the Qiblah? prayer lines? and everthing. a MOSQUE is a place of worship. The Quran says Wa anaal Masajiida lilaahi fala tadico calaal laahi Axada. A place of worship maxa u taqaan??