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Re: Egypt is finished , Ethiopia africa most powerful nation

Postby gurey25 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:08 am

2) the second objective was to prolong the war so isreal would ask for a peace talk which they did and was held in late october in the middle of sinai, You never been to army and don't know that quantity compensate for technology if the war is face to face (Germany VS soviets in ww2 is an example), isreal was losing and america interefered nd sent more than 400 tanks among other non stop aid to compensate the large losses of the isreali, in oct 10 there was a 24 hours window that egypt were able to enter isreal and head to tel aviv and the only force were to block it was one merely reserve division 20-30km south of tel aviv versus close to 10 egyptian division including 2 armoured division, the isreali knew that and told Henry kissinger to tell the egyptians that if the egyptians were to go with this option they would use their nuke missiles, their back were against the wall.
10 divisions was nothing without airsupport, the isreali airforce would have damaged them severly and the 3 to 5 ugdot in the area where heavily armoured and would have held.
smaller ugdot( brigades) held against the syrians in the golan and there was a case of one tank platoon of 4 centrurions taking out more than 60 syrian tanks.



and your theory about isreal not being able to survive a prolonged war is correct, the entire isreali armed forces is designed around a short war with a maximum length of 1 month.
You are forgetting that no arab army can fight a prolonged war either, because they do not produce their own weapons
this is why the analogy with the soviets and nazis is not possible.
The likely scenario is that Egypt would lose its airforce in 2 weeks, sinai and the canal in a few days,
even if they fight as well as a NATO standard army, because they have the odds stacked against them.
If they refuse a ceasefire, isreal can bomb cairo at will with no resistance just like the US bombs the taliban.

before the arabs can think of a war with isreal they need to industrialize and produce even sub standard weapons on their own.
The reason Iran is a threat is because it has done just this, they are nearly 100% self sufficient in weapons,
and they have caught up technologically very quickly by doing it the hard way and starting from scratch like their Azarkash program and the Saeqah program which is a not too far from the South Korean program.

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Re: Egypt is finished , Ethiopia africa most powerful nation

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:30 am

2) the second objective was to prolong the war so isreal would ask for a peace talk which they did and was held in late october in the middle of sinai, You never been to army and don't know that quantity compensate for technology if the war is face to face (Germany VS soviets in ww2 is an example), isreal was losing and america interefered nd sent more than 400 tanks among other non stop aid to compensate the large losses of the isreali, in oct 10 there was a 24 hours window that egypt were able to enter isreal and head to tel aviv and the only force were to block it was one merely reserve division 20-30km south of tel aviv versus close to 10 egyptian division including 2 armoured division, the isreali knew that and told Henry kissinger to tell the egyptians that if the egyptians were to go with this option they would use their nuke missiles, their back were against the wall.
10 divisions was nothing without airsupport, the isreali airforce would have damaged them severly and the 3 to 5 ugdot in the area where heavily armoured and would have held.
smaller ugdot( brigades) held against the syrians in the golan and there was a case of one tank platoon of 4 centrurions taking out more than 60 syrian tanks.

Exactly my point, the egyptian knew they were inferior going into the battle when it comes to air power hence the plan was the 12 mile buffer and holding it for the first 10 days, Don't worry about the Northern front (Golan Front) it was a disaster. the advantage the egyptian was for a day when the isreali force was on the back foot and egypt had 2 armoured and infantry division trained for night battles which at that time the isreal airforce couldn't cope with. At full speed those 4 divisions would be in isreal in few hours, isreal had 100 planes or so directed to sinai mostly operating in day light how much do you think they would've done for a 40,000 Egyptian streaming towards isreal at night with their tanks adding they only have one airstrike each to perform at night because by the time they refuel the egyptians would be in isreal.


and your theory about isreal not being able to survive a prolonged war is correct, the entire isreali armed forces is designed around a short war with a maximum length of 1 month.
You are forgetting that no arab army can fight a prolonged war either, because they do not produce their own weapons
this is why the analogy with the soviets and nazis is not possible.

Egypt produced light and medium weaponry only heavy weaponry were acquired from soviets because it was cheaper and more advanced, example they wanted to make a plane which would cost them 2 million each while a mig was 250,000. Egypt are in final stages today of manufacturing a refueling plane which would make their range of airstrike far greater. The Nazi when fighting soviet were superior in weapons,experience and technology but stalin famously said (which is still used as poverb today) "Quantity is Quality" if soviet union had a small population then the Nazi would have entered Moscow Bypassing stalingrad as many of the soviet reserve army were stationed around there, so they knew even taking moscow they still have to deal with stalingrad later.

The likely scenario is that Egypt would lose its airforce in 2 weeks, sinai and the canal in a few days,
even if they fight as well as a NATO standard army, because they have the odds stacked against them.
If they refuse a ceasefire, isreal can bomb cairo at will with no resistance just like the US bombs the taliban.

Are you talking about conventional war??? Egypt can have an army of 10 million in one week (at the moment they are restricted to half a million), and they are tough and share a border with isreal no line can defend against this number even the Germans found out the hard way in Ukraine and the rhine river as did the Finnish with the russians, conventionally Egypt would still in the long run Bigger country more resources and nearly 90 million people half of them under 30 yrs old. Bombing cairo is no issue Egypt can bomb Tel aviv too the real question is can isreal defend itself in a conventional war against Egypt with No nukes??? the answer is No.

before the arabs can think of a war with isreal they need to industrialize and produce even sub standard weapons on their own.

They do, but they lack in technology, However when you fight a country you have a border with you can compensate that with short range missiles which egypt produces alot of.

The reason Iran is a threat is because it has done just this, they are nearly 100% self sufficient in weapons,
and they have caught up technologically very quickly by doing it the hard way and starting from scratch like their Azarkash program and the Saeqah program which is a not too far from the South Korean program.

Iran is not a threat because of its weapons its actually very old and inferior, they are not even in the top 50 army in the world, Iran is a threat because they can disrupt the region and the world due to their strategic location near the Humz strait and the Arab Gulf. All the missiles they produce is because pakistan helped them years ago, Iran can't reach Isreal except for missiles they have, in iran isreali airforce can dominate the iranian airspace in one week because iran don't have the advance radar system to bring isreali planes down (their purchase of russian sam 300 was blocked bu isreali and american pressure) Nor they have the advance radar system in their planes for a dog fight with isreali plane (only 10 or so country in the world have that in the middle east Only Isreal and pakistan have that capabaility) Isreali plane can shoot an iranian jet from many Miles away while the iranian needs to get with almost eye contact.

Egypt would :eat: Yahud for breakfast if no nuke is involved. :stylin:

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Re: Egypt is finished , Ethiopia africa most powerful nation

Postby Khalid Ali » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:54 pm

Guys Egypt can literally demolish Ethiopia , but Israel can annihilate the entire air force and ground forces of Egypt all agreed now lets move on.

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Re: Egypt is finished , Ethiopia africa most powerful nation

Postby Calibesteen » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:18 pm

Guys Egypt can literally demolish Ethiopia , but Israel can annihilate the entire air force and ground forces of Egypt all agreed now lets move on.

You do not understand, its Midriquuz who is talking with Arab g.us in his mouth. That man is defending egyptians like his life depended on it despite that Egyptians raping thousands of Eritrean womans and children who try to cross Sinai and they kill the man inorder to sell organs.

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Re: Egypt is finished , Ethiopia africa most powerful nation

Postby MidriGeez » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:08 am

Guys Egypt can literally demolish Ethiopia , but Israel can annihilate the entire air force and ground forces of Egypt all agreed now lets move on.

You do not understand, its Midriquuz who is talking with Arab g.us in his mouth. That man is defending egyptians like his life depended on it despite that Egyptians raping thousands of Eritrean womans and children who try to cross Sinai and they kill the man inorder to sell organs.

80% of the so called Eritreans in sinai are actually ethiopians tigrayans.


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