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Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby STARKAST » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:22 pm

@ Kabriid - like you guys say "Somaliland union blah blah is not negotiable" - The same goes its 1 :som: . Don't act juvenile with this typical pomposity. 1 clan didn't just lose in the civil war. 10 million people+ (all 3 clans+) did.

@Hydrogen - Agree with the above . However what yalaxoow said is not unreasonable as 'we're all in this together' and we should limit all suspicions of 'unfair allocation of resources'.

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby Kabriid » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:54 pm

@ Kabriid - like you guys say "Somaliland union blah blah is not negotiable" - The same goes its 1 :som: . Don't act juvenile with this typical pomposity. 1 clan didn't just lose in the civil war. 10 million people+ (all 3 clans+) did.

@Hydrogen - Agree with the above . However what yalaxoow said is not unreasonable as 'we're all in this together' and we should limit all suspicions of 'unfair allocation of resources'.
You're not being rational. It has nothing to do with the civil war. The civil war and the attempted genocide was just the straw that broke the camel's back. The injustices started in 1960 hence the revolt in 1961 to regain the independence and sovereignty of Somaliland. The creation of Somalia was based on the unity of two equal and independent states but in reality Italian Somalia annexed Somaliland. 30 years of injustice and mistrust will not vanish because of some conferences held in London. The dream of Somaliweyn died a long time ago and it was Wanlaweyn that killed it with their dishonesty. The same people that are not begging in the name of all Somali people and the Blue flag. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We will never unite with Wanlaweyn.

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:02 pm

Turkish brothers should also help us to build the second Capital HARGEYSA. hargeysa needs asphalted RAODS.. and lot of infructructure.. Somali president should see that atlist 30% of aTurkish budget of rebuilding the country should be given HARGEYSA and near towns such as Burco..
Nope, why invest in a city where the people will not even be grateful.

And besides, I thought Africans were your brothers, now it's the Turkish?

of course Turkish and Africans are our brothers. whit out Ugandan brothers secrifies we would not have the peace we are enjoying south somalia qaasatan mogadishu.. Thanks you TURKEY and Uganda and Burindi brothers.. all people who help us. :up: :up: :up:

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby hydrogen » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:09 pm

Uff, everyone is your brother?

Gaal and Muslim alike?

You are truly disgusting Yalaxow.

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:14 pm

about 40% of Ugandans are Muslims.. biggest tribe in Uganda . the BUGANDA tribe whichs the name Uganda come from is majorty Muslims.. so Uganda and madaxweyne yuweri musaveni we will be greatfull what they done for us people of south somalia qaasatan MOGADISHU..

AND YES TURKISH ALSO ARE OUR BROTHERS, helping to rebuild our nation....

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:22 pm

You're not being rational. It has nothing to do with the civil war. The civil war and the attempted genocide was just the straw that broke the camel's back. The injustices started in 1960 hence the revolt in 1961 to regain the independence and sovereignty of Somaliland. The creation of Somalia was based on the unity of two equal and independent states but in reality Italian Somalia annexed Somaliland. 30 years of injustice and mistrust will not vanish because of some conferences held in London. The dream of Somaliweyn died a long time ago and it was Wanlaweyn that killed it with their dishonesty. The same people that are not begging in the name of all Somali people and the Blue flag. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We will never unite with Wanlaweyn.

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the Turkish brothers are helping us to rebuild the nation.. and its time you northern somalia aka somaliland to take advantage for this great opportunity, hargeysa should be rebuilt because somaliland goverment had failed to even build 2 km of asphalted Road in hargeysa.. Somalia will not be like somalia before 1990.. somaliland will be free for its internal affairs.. but this dream of becoming your own nation will not become true.. its time you realize no one on this world not even OUR enamy ethiopia wants to see Somalia to be divided... and 1988 what happen i north also happened in south... SNM invaded hargeysa and burco and no goverment on this planet will just sitt down and watch rebbel to capture part of its country.. SNM should be blammed also as siyaad barre goverment also... Somaliland should stay somaliland att moment but in the future you have stop this dream about becoming your own land.. from sanaag,sool and awdal do not share whit you so called somaliland.. no one can or will force you to join the south.. but in the future somaliland will be part of Somalia. a federal Somalia...

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby Kabriid » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:53 pm

You're not being rational. It has nothing to do with the civil war. The civil war and the attempted genocide was just the straw that broke the camel's back. The injustices started in 1960 hence the revolt in 1961 to regain the independence and sovereignty of Somaliland. The creation of Somalia was based on the unity of two equal and independent states but in reality Italian Somalia annexed Somaliland. 30 years of injustice and mistrust will not vanish because of some conferences held in London. The dream of Somaliweyn died a long time ago and it was Wanlaweyn that killed it with their dishonesty. The same people that are not begging in the name of all Somali people and the Blue flag. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We will never unite with Wanlaweyn.

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the Turkish brothers are helping us to rebuild the nation.. and its time you northern somalia aka somaliland to take advantage for this great opportunity, hargeysa should be rebuilt because somaliland goverment had failed to even build 2 km of asphalted Road in hargeysa.. Somalia will not be like somalia before 1990.. somaliland will be free for its internal affairs.. but this dream of becoming your own nation will not become true.. its time you realize no one on this world not even OUR enamy ethiopia wants to see Somalia to be divided... and 1988 what happen i north also happened in south... SNM invaded hargeysa and burco and no goverment on this planet will just sitt down and watch rebbel to capture part of its country.. SNM should be blammed also as siyaad barre goverment also... Somaliland should stay somaliland att moment but in the future you have stop this dream about becoming your own land.. from sanaag,sool and awdal do not share whit you so called somaliland.. no one can or will force you to join the south.. but in the future somaliland will be part of Somalia. a federal Somalia...
They bombed the second capital while using Mig and Hunter aircrafts. Every corners of the city had artillery brigades ready to fire at the fleeing masses. 100's of thousand innocent men, women and children were murdered. The same thing happened in Burco and Berbera. They planted landmines and executed innocent people all the way from Lowyacado on the Djibouti border to Cerigabo in the west. They armed and hired Oromo mercenaries to eradicate entire groups of people. That didnt happen in the south, so stop lying. No human being in his right mind would unite with the south ever again because they've crossed the line for 30 years. Turkey is only helping the south in the name of Somalinimo, they are trying to re establish their former Ottoman base. Fortunately for the south, Somaliland hasn't got its independence yet because if it was independent, Turkey wouldn't rebuild the so called "capital" Xamar. The Ottoman empire only had ties with Harar in Ethiopia and Somaliland. You people can use the blue flag to beg the world in the name of Somali people, we just don't want anything to do with you.

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:04 pm

Listen 1988 i remember. snm Invaded hargeysa burco.. and as i said any goverment will do anything to bush back the rebbel.. and Mig 21 airplane is not like B 12 BOMB PLANE.. MIG 21 can not even destroy one building house.. Somalias borders is international regocniced country... yes hargeysa burco berbera will be govern people who come from there. no southy will ever sett in foot in the north... but Somalia federal nation will be united wather you liked or not... and of course we will not force you.. somaliland goverment know 100% that somaliland regocnition and dividing somalia in to nations is immposible....

ALREADY sool and part of sanaag do not wanna be part of somaliland. so who wanna create another nation which same parts of that country does not wanna be part of wanna stay united somalia? i dont think so,,, SNM was guilty also for taking army from MINGUSTI HAILE MARYAM ETHIOPIA and invading cities full of civilians.. and yes goverment siyaad bare did also many bad things.. but siyaad bare goverement is gone thanks to USC who chassed the goverement and thanks to us.. SNM who could not even capture singel majort town in north come in their cities hargeusa burco berbera after siyaad bare goverment collapsed...

marka stop that mantra waa nala dileey wa wareeey.... Siilaanyo knows 100% NO ONE in this planet will allow dividing Somalia..

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby BigBreak » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:09 pm

^^ stop the cheap revisionism you silly fufu fag. anyways what happened in the past is gone and somaliland is now gone for good, only a greater somalia of all 5 points of the somali star would appeal the s/l masses

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:12 pm

superlander i dont think so.. just check the map Somalia.. hargeysa and burco is stil part of Somalia...

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby STARKAST » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:14 pm

Yalaxoow talking like Barre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SebB2kii5u0 @ 02:52. I Agree with Yalaxoows sentiments. (Not the African love rhetoric hes brandishing on SN.)
A Dictator Secures the nations land and expands at any cost.


@ Kabriid - Brother please refrain from this out dated talk.
Barre tried to destroy the umar muhammad in the mudug along with many other political assassinations (prisoned aidid - killed of Yusuf'ss cronies)etc etc etc.
In short he neutralized all threats let alone a coup and breakaway zones.
Even the US constitution does not allow any states succeed from the 50 state union and this was 300 years ago.....
Don't blame the Somali People - Blame Him - He was a Dictator !!

In full respect to you - forget about you're clan loyalty and embrace you're ancestry and roots.

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby BigBreak » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 pm

superlander i dont think so.. just check the map Somalia.. hargeysa and burco is stil part of Somalia...
............. but not for long nigga :dj:

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:44 pm

22 years is long time....

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby BigBreak » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:54 pm

22 years is long time....
it can be 100 years for all i care but the union before 1991 is dead like afweyne barre so u can stick ur fake unity aka darood fascism where the sun doesnt shine :arrow:

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Re: Why visit Istanbul when you can visit Xamarbul?

Postby Kabriid » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:57 pm

Listen 1988 i remember. snm Invaded hargeysa burco.. and as i said any goverment will do anything to bush back the rebbel.. and Mig 21 airplane is not like B 12 BOMB PLANE.. MIG 21 can not even destroy one building house.. Somalias borders is international regocniced country... yes hargeysa burco berbera will be govern people who come from there. no southy will ever sett in foot in the north... but Somalia federal nation will be united wather you liked or not... and of course we will not force you.. somaliland goverment know 100% that somaliland regocnition and dividing somalia in to nations is immposible....

ALREADY sool and part of sanaag do not wanna be part of somaliland. so who wanna create another nation which same parts of that country does not wanna be part of wanna stay united somalia? i dont think so,,, SNM was guilty also for taking army from MINGUSTI HAILE MARYAM ETHIOPIA and invading cities full of civilians.. and yes goverment siyaad bare did also many bad things.. but siyaad bare goverement is gone thanks to USC who chassed the goverement and thanks to us.. SNM who could not even capture singel majort town in north come in their cities hargeusa burco berbera after siyaad bare goverment collapsed...

marka stop that mantra waa nala dileey wa wareeey.... Siilaanyo knows 100% NO ONE in this planet will allow dividing Somalia..

You lack military expertise because a guerilla can't single handedly defeat an army 10 times its size. What SNM did was that they arranged simultaneous attacks on military posts and camps just like the guerilla armies of Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam. The idea was to achieve our primary military goal which was to make the forces of the Kacaan Junta to retreat. You don't capture a town because if you do then that city will be leveled with the ground and entire forces will be wiped out. 2/3 of the Somali army was stationed in the north only leaving 1/3 in the south. Do I also need to remind you that the USC was created by 2 men, one Isaaq and the other Abgaal and the major arms support came from SNM. I already said the notion of Somalilands independence is not based on civil war but that the civil war and the attempted genocide was the straw that broke the camel's back. The discontent with situation in the north and how the injustices began in 1960 and continued for 30 years, is what the people of Somaliland won't forget. We want complete separation. The majority of Gadubirsi and Dhulbahante and Warsangeli are pro Somaliland. The regions of Awdal, Sool and Sanaag is also inhabited by Isaaq.


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