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Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby guhad122 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:26 pm

While I don’t like the policies and political approaches of the hopeless and ineffective Gurguurte and his HAG thievery ways, I have to admit that I am not conformable with Absame/Ogaden strategically aligning with Majeerteen in the current political situation. Why it is the Kablalax card has sufficient funds when the Dhabayoco wants to use? For those who don’t know, Majeerteen has politically sidelined Ogaden in Somalia and has been doing that for decades. Our land In Jubbland has never been questioned until the Dhabayocos has started their women-like attitude of propaganda and hoopla against Ogaden. Just a decade ago, their favorite saying was “Ba’aa Ogaden Kismaayo maleh, caano unbey keenaan”. Another one was “Ba’aa Ogaden Ethiopia buu degaa”.

While I care about the true minority Harti natives in Kismaayo, I would advise Ogaden to avoid the political intimacy with Faroole and his cohorts. What do you think? Let us not forget that few years ago, Faroole was claiming that the only thing he shares with us is the language. The reer Biciidyahan, Reer Khalaf, Reer Maxamuud or all those other Dhabayoco clans in Ogadenia make up the majority of the Faroole militias but those are his clansmen, but not the Ogadens he now ardently claims to have the same destiny with in regards to the current political environment of the country. He shouldn't even be allowed to say the word "Jubaland".

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby skywalker25 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:29 pm

Lool. The Doqon has woken up... :blessed:




Pss, Guhad your one of my favorite posters. No offence sxb. It had to be said. :lol:

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:10 pm

While I don’t like the policies and political approaches of the hopeless and ineffective Gurguurte and his HAG thievery ways, I have to admit that I am not conformable with Absame/Ogaden strategically aligning with Majeerteen in the current political situation. Why it is the Kablalax card has sufficient funds when the Dhabayoco wants to use? For those who don’t know, Majeerteen has politically sidelined Ogaden in Somalia and has been doing that for decades. Our land In Jubbland has never been questioned until the Dhabayocos has started their women-like attitude of propaganda and hoopla against Ogaden. Just a decade ago, their favorite saying was “Ba’aa Ogaden Kismaayo maleh, caano unbey keenaan”. Another one was “Ba’aa Ogaden Ethiopia buu degaa”.

While I care about the true minority Harti natives in Kismaayo, I would advise Ogaden to avoid the political intimacy with Faroole and his cohorts. What do you think? Let us not forget that few years ago, Faroole was claiming that the only thing he shares with us is the language. The reer Biciidyahan, Reer Khalaf, Reer Maxamuud or all those other Dhabayoco clans in Ogadenia make up the majority of the Faroole militias but those are his clansmen, but not the Ogadens he now ardently claims to have the same destiny with in regards to the current political environment of the country. He shouldn't even be allowed to say the word "Jubaland".
The Makahiil brain lights up 1 hour before other Cagdheer minds ! Guhaad, I got upset and broke ties with all the Cagdheers in my hood after they started chanting Kablaxax. How easily they forget what disaster Kablaxaxism brought to them ! Bloody Caydiid for wasting those poor HG boy's lives fighting to secure Kismayo for the Cagdheers in the 90s only for the Caghdeers to lose it a few harti boyz.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby Substance » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:55 pm

No one is better for ogaden then their uncle Sade. Ahmed blackie is a smart politican. He know whats up. Dont worry about faroole. Even harti jubbalanders oppose his interfering. Enemies of the State will be shown no mercy.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby oxymoron » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:02 pm

While I don’t like the policies and political approaches of the hopeless and ineffective Gurguurte and his HAG thievery ways, I have to admit that I am not conformable with Absame/Ogaden strategically aligning with Majeerteen in the current political situation. Why it is the Kablalax card has sufficient funds when the Dhabayoco wants to use? For those who don’t know, Majeerteen has politically sidelined Ogaden in Somalia and has been doing that for decades. Our land In Jubbland has never been questioned until the Dhabayocos has started their women-like attitude of propaganda and hoopla against Ogaden. Just a decade ago, their favorite saying was “Ba’aa Ogaden Kismaayo maleh, caano unbey keenaan”. Another one was “Ba’aa Ogaden Ethiopia buu degaa”.

While I care about the true minority Harti natives in Kismaayo, I would advise Ogaden to avoid the political intimacy with Faroole and his cohorts. What do you think? Let us not forget that few years ago, Faroole was claiming that the only thing he shares with us is the language. The reer Biciidyahan, Reer Khalaf, Reer Maxamuud or all those other Dhabayoco clans in Ogadenia make up the majority of the Faroole militias but those are his clansmen, but not the Ogadens he now ardently claims to have the same destiny with in regards to the current political environment of the country. He shouldn't even be allowed to say the word "Jubaland".
Inadeer first and foremost there is no need to bring up the past as we now live in the present. It's not really fair for you to sit here and bring up Majeerteen past atrocities while ignoring your own. When were you ever in the right wagon with Beesha? You were in the MOD crew during the Siyad Barre days, and Than aided the USC enemy in 1991. You have politically sidelined Major Majeerteen subclans in Ogadenia like the Reer Biciidyahan, Reer Khalaf, Reer Maxamuud and many others. None hold or ever held any key positions in your Administers there.

The reality of the matter is my friend it is you who have pulled out the Kablalax card today, and it is not without sufficient funds. You are about to do the biggest bank-roll on the Kablalax card, and without it Sade with the full backing of the HAG is positioned to take Jubbaland and give some of your shares in the region to the folks in Mogadishu.

It was Abdi Mohamed Omer (aka Abdi Iley) who invited Faroole to Jijiga for talks in 2012 and truce was broken, which has resulted in the strongest political alliance stretching three nations. Just this week the Ogaden Jubbaland delegates and the Garissa Mayor arrived in Garowe. So this is beyond a mere card rather a real political alliance intended to fight a bigger war.

You have been politically ganged up on in South Somalia regarding Jubbaland, and the Majeerteens that were saying “Ba’aa Ogaden Kismaayo maleh, caano unbey keenaan” a decade ago are today saying the opposite because new natives have sperm out of thin air directly challenging your claims and Leadership along with mine.. Kenya ain't going to be there for ever, so we both need Kablalax, or you will surely fall in second place in Jubbaland, and I will be even below that with the new emerging JVA aka HAG Vision for Jubbaland.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby oxymoron » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:36 pm

In shore at this very moment the Ogaden need Kablalax unless they want to surrender to Sade iyo HAG and be a mere vice President in their own deegaan & State. Or opted out for Kablalax that is a bigger force to be reckon with than the new JVA alliance. As a result you get a permanent Ogaden leadership in Jubbaland through democracy, by fighting for a equally shared state between Sade, Ogaden iyo Harti and the HAG & minorities getting a .5 stack in the state. This way the Kablalax vote is Supreme and your leadership unquestioned.

So guhad122 you have any better ideas?

Cause that's what the alliance is all about and willing to fight for until the end result is achieved. Sideline them or be sidelined.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby Rightwing » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:52 pm

Guhad
Darood aka settlers always overlooked and ignored the native people such as somali bantu, gaal-jecel, shiikhaal etc. Don't you know parasitic culture era is over?
Let me quote what your uncle Garaad wiil-waal once have said "Nin raga hooyadiina u tu'iyoo walaal waxay ku dhaanto malaha".
I think Gurguurte have some brain unlike his predecessor's clans men such as sheikh Dalxiis, Geedi and Abdi-qasim etc. It's obvious that Gurguurte wants make sure all inhabitants of Jubooyinka should have an equal voice in every aspect.


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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby SultanOrder » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:25 pm

Guhad
Darood aka settlers always overlooked and ignored the native people such as somali bantu, gaal-jecel, shiikhaal etc. Don't you know parasitic culture era is over?
Let me quote what your uncle Garaad wiil-waal once have said "Nin raga hooyadiina u tu'iyoo walaal waxay ku dhaanto malaha".
I think Gurguurte have some brain unlike his predecessor's clans men such as sheikh Dalxiis, Geedi and Abdi-qasim etc. It's obvious that Gurguurte wants make sure all inhabitants of Jubooyinka should have an equal voice in every aspect.


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Rightwing, we do not understand your "equal voice". Every one should have proportional representation, that way, every one has the voice they are entitled to, and nothing greater. But as for Jubbaland, we all know who the majority is, and who have always been the main players.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:43 pm

Guhad
Darood aka settlers always overlooked and ignored the native people such as somali bantu, gaal-jecel, shiikhaal etc. Don't you know parasitic culture era is over?
Let me quote what your uncle Garaad wiil-waal once have said "Nin raga hooyadiina u tu'iyoo walaal waxay ku dhaanto malaha".
I think Gurguurte have some brain unlike his predecessor's clans men such as sheikh Dalxiis, Geedi and Abdi-qasim etc. It's obvious that Gurguurte wants make sure all inhabitants of Jubooyinka should have an equal voice in every aspect.


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Rightwing, we do not understand your "equal voice". Every one should have proportional representation, that way, every one has the voice they are entitled to, and nothing greater. But as for Jubbaland, we all know who the majority is, and who have always been the main players.
So who are the majority ?

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:03 am

What needs to be done is a tirakoob. But the largest players in the region are Sade and Absame.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby Rightwing » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:17 am

Guhad
Darood aka settlers always overlooked and ignored the native people such as somali bantu, gaal-jecel, shiikhaal etc. Don't you know parasitic culture era is over?
Let me quote what your uncle Garaad wiil-waal once have said "Nin raga hooyadiina u tu'iyoo walaal waxay ku dhaanto malaha".
I think Gurguurte have some brain unlike his predecessor's clans men such as sheikh Dalxiis, Geedi and Abdi-qasim etc. It's obvious that Gurguurte wants make sure all inhabitants of Jubooyinka should have an equal voice in every aspect.


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Rightwing, we do not understand your "equal voice". Every one should have proportional representation, that way, every one has the voice they are entitled to, and nothing greater. But as for Jubbaland, we all know who the majority is, and who have always been the main players.
So who are the majority ?
I am not sure who is the mojority, Jabarti or indigenous people?? but Jabarti have to understand that they're settlers and they ought to respect indigenous people.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby Rightwing » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:20 am

Rightwing, we do not understand your "equal voice". Every one should have proportional representation, that way, every one has the voice they are entitled to, and nothing greater. But as for Jubbaland, we all know who the majority is, and who have always been the main players.
That was my point sxb. It doesn't matter who the majority is.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:22 am

Rightwing, Jaberti have been living there for centuries, so when do they stop becoming settlers? :lol:

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby Rightwing » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:32 am

Rightwing, Jaberti have been living there for centuries, so when do they stop becoming settlers? :lol:
I am not denying Jaberti lived part of the Jubooyingka for centuries for example Afmadow and cetra. Here what I am focusing is the disputed city of Kismayo. To my researchs the first Jaberti settlers arrived from Majeerteenia in 60s.

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Re: Not a Good Idea!!!

Postby guhad122 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:42 am

Rightwing;
You need to do more research and don't tell me that you haven't seen this; may be you were high on Qaat; Look at this picture right in the middle of Kisaayo where Ogaden warriors are performing their infamous war dance called Diisow circa 1910s.
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