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Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:39 am
by skywalker25
Why dont you guys build shrine for afweyne in your regions instead of this pathetic game of pushing him down our throats...

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:23 am
by original dervish
Your free to hold your own opinions.

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:33 am
by skywalker25
Your free to hold your own opinions.
You my slave dont have that same right. I earned mine... :sland: :D

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:50 am
by Adali
Why dont you guys build shrine for afweyne in your regions instead of this pathetic game of pushing him down our throats...
no one is forcing anything down your throat, that is a figment of your imagination.

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:04 am
by Tanker
Another "argument" Elf ruler makes is that Siyad Barre commited a "mistake" by fighting aganist the SNM terrorists in Northern Somalia, we had a terrorist group who had taken control over Hargeysa and Burco they were already commiting crimes aganist civilians inside the cities, any government will had been forced to respond the civlians deaths are the resposiblity of the SNM who used their own civilians as human shield


By embedding its fighters in the civilian population in Hargeisa, the SNM played a
reckless deception which put the government in a difficult position of damn-ifyou-
do and damn-if-you don’t. The SNM could be accused that it did not care
much for the civilian population. The plausible scenario was the SNM which
always demanded more manpower wanted to benefit from the flight of the civilian
population from their homes in the north to camps in eastern Ethiopia where it
can secure endless supply of recruits.

Summation of the armed movements against Somalia

Many armed movements have fought in many countries including Ethiopia itself with the aim to bring political change or for self-determination. Many movements such as the EPLF and TPLF in their struggle were principled and patriotic.

The 1980s armed movements against the government in Somalia were invariably tribal with the aim to serve personal and clan ambitions rather than nation. Is it not the case that the net result of the struggle of the likes of the SSDF, SNM and USC accomplished was anything other than the destruction of Somalia: their own homeland? In an interview to the Somali Service of the BBC, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, the former TFG President who resides in Yemen and who was the founder of the first armed opposition against Somalia “SSDF” admitted that he wouldn’t have done what he did had he known what he knows today. 17
http://ebookuniverse.net/the-night-snm- ... -d29036263




this is what Elf ruler said
Al-Shataan is almost gone
how was al shabaab defeated? they were defeated by military means, under shaikh sherif more than 4000 civilians died in Mogadishu in the war aganist terrorist al shabaab but is that the fault of sheikh sherif? should we blame him for the death civilans ? charge him with war crimes? no! because it was shabaab who was using the civilians as human shield and the government was forced to liberate its cities from terrorism.
But 4,000 died in the fighting between 2009 and 2011
http://www.tau.ac.il/humanities/abraham ... omalia.pdf

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:17 am
by Tanker
Its getting more pathetic according to Elf Ruler
the corrupt politicians will be gone
Somalia has once again emerged the top in the list of the world's most corrupt countries,

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-6992665.html

So much for the "greatness" of post-Siyad Barre Somalia

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:37 am
by skywalker25
Tanker you wasakhgeli stop trolling your dictator lost and is in the dustbin of history. He won't get any praise from any government instituation anytime soon. So move the fock on and deal with it. We Isaaq's know Darods well and this nonsense about civilians being used as human shields which is why Hargeisa was targeted is nonsense. The reason Hargeisa and Burco/Berbera were targeted was the same as those poor innocent civilians in Jazeera were rounded up and slaughtered. The government was hyjacked by the likes of you who started a tribal war against all Isaaq's. You lost, your great leader was chased out of his home in the dead of night in a thong and his wife her strap on.All the way to Nigeria were he died whilst being sodomized by a fat Ibo chief. Let's not bullshit eachother. Now be a good troll and tell me how uncle Silanyo's foot feels like today?

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:12 am
by original dervish
So much hate still burns within the iidoor :wow:
Nigga move on....we all suffered enough during the last 30 years.
The new Somalia is just beginning....iidoor need to stop their silly secession crap and come on board now. :D :sland: :up:

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:35 pm
by Tanker
a pathetic circus :lol: :lol:

SSDF calling USC a bunch of criminels

[Abshir] That's absolutely untrue and the Somali people as a whole are against Aidid. They see Aidid as the second man who was responsible for the Somali trag­edy
SSDF Spokesman Expresses Support for UN Actions

http://www.biyokulule.com/June_1990s(2).htm


one USC fraction calling the other USC fraction for criminels
Mr. Ali Mahdi Muhammad, the President of the Somali Republic: Gen. Muhammad Farah Hasan Aidid, who was responsible for the series of civil wars in the country over a period of four years and eight months, starting from 17 November 1991 to 1 August 1996,



http://www.biyokulule.com/August_1990s(1).htm


SNM refuses to regonize Ali Mahdi USC as the new president

[Khalifah] Who chose 'Ali Mahdi Muhammad then?



[Hurrah] Actually we do not know!

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:40 pm
by Tanker
SNM figthing aganist SNM in 1992 one year after siyad had left
In May 1991 the SNM declared its secession from Somalia and degenerated into a Somaliland civil war in 1992 (Flint 1993).
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,, ... b5f,0.html


SPM figthing aganist itself
On August 12, 1992, the SPM Ogadeni faction joined General Aidid to form the Somali National Alliance. The SPM fractured along tribal lines, and massacres and ethnic cleansing began between the two rival factions, as well as their external enemies.

Image


http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,, ... b5f,0.html




The SNM chaiman Abdirahman Tuur condemns SNM itself for seccesion

but subsequently renounced the separatist platform in 1994. Tuur concurrently began instead to publicly seek and advocate reconciliation with the rest of Somalia

http://www.etext.org/Politics/Somalia.N ... snu-03.016



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:56 pm
by original dervish
Tuur (aun) was the last visionary issaq leader.

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:10 pm
by Mondey
Yes marxum major General Siad Barre was not perfect he had his shortcomings he made some wrong decisions yup. but blaming the atrocities committed by savage perpetrators the past 21 years non-stop countrywide on him is madness.
May the marxuum rest in peace and may Allah forgive his sins and grant him Farduus.

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:30 pm
by original dervish
Amiin Amiin!

these miscreants destroyed Somalia...this is indisputable.
In the process they destroyed themselves, scattering their people to the four corners of the Earth.

Examine the make up of today's political class, and you`ll find none worthy of tying the shoelaces of the great man.

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:58 pm
by Murax
At times dictatorship is better than 'freedom', Somalia is the perfect example of this.

I agree. Somalia's definitely one of those places.

Re: Somalis under and after Siyad Barres rule pictures

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:17 pm
by Tanker
Somalia best days started from 26 january 1991 till now :blessed:

I prefer that period above any other :dj:
MOGADISHU -- Something has snapped in Somalia. After three months of civil war that has killed and wounded at least 30,000 people, the country's soul is dying. People here are so used to staring into war's hideous face that too many have lost the horror. The brutal fighting is now their chief entertainment.



Some 400,000 terrified Somalis have fled for their lives. Many live in the desert in tiny beehive huts made of scrap metal and cardboard bound together with rope and rubber straps. Thousands more civilians have stayed in Mogadishu, braving machinegun fire and artillery barrages that batter the city each day.



In a residential district controlled by the guerrilla leader trying to oust Somalia's interim president, hundreds of people turn out to see the street battles close up. Even kids ignore the sharp crack of assault rifles, crowding sidewalks near the frontline to watch tanks blast the next neighborhood. As the country commits suicide, spectators cheer each explosion while families of the dead and wounded weep.



It is the Hobbesian vision come true, a society collapsed into anarchy, a savage, pitiless world where life has become nasty, brutish and short. People who once loved and laughed and hoped like all of us now think only of staying alive one more day, of saving enough strength to survive another. It's a miracle that so many still can.



The barbarity is beyond exaggeration. Somalia hasn't had a government or police for more than a year. Most people haven't had a job or a regular paycheque for even longer. Thousands of convicts who escaped from jail amid the chaos run amok with assault rifles and machineguns, shooting anyone who gets in their way. The few drivers still on the road have to fill the back seat, and often the open trunk, with armed guards for protection.



At night, the city is pitch black except for the intermittent flash of artillery. There hasn't been any electricity for months, nor is there any running water in most of the city. Looters hacked down all the hydro wires, dug up the water mains and sold them in neighboring countries along with the cars, computers, phones, light fixtures and truckloads of other booty they stole at gunpoint.
Suicide of a Nation

Somalia descends into inferno of chaos

By Paul Watson

February 16, 1992

The Toronto Star

http://www.biyokulule.com/February1990s(6).htm

The prospects don't look to good for any kind of a prosperous, stable government, much less a civil society. The common sentiment is that the whole place should be paved over into a parking lot."



A U.S. government official in Washington put it this way: "Somalia has ceased to exist," he said. "And right now, nobody cares."