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Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:41 pm
by Guul13
Gahayle is a branch of Siwaaqroon- Majerteen.

Jibraahiil are Ogaden.

Ugayslabe are Warsangeli.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:47 pm
by FarIyoAlif
Gahayle maxa sanaag geeyey horta siwaaqroonta kale bariga fog bay degaane? Jibraahiilkuna Ogaadeen yay ka yihiin?

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:48 pm
by Siciid85
There is no low IQ Ogadens in Somaliland by settlement. Jibrahil is a small stand alone clan that lives with the HY, during the wars they were with the SNM, were's
the Gahayle were punished for supporting the Siad Bare government.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:50 pm
by Guul13
Gahayle maxa sanaag geeyey horta siwaaqroonta kale bariga fog bay degaane? Jibraahiilkuna Ogaadeen yay ka yihiin?
My friend is Gahayle, he told me Siwaaqroon is concentrated in Bari but his branch lives in Ceerigaabo and Laas Suraad in Sanaag. I'm not sure which branch of Ogaadeen Jibraahil is, beesha is too laandheer to keep up with. :mindblown:

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:51 pm
by ina aadan
Jibraiil waa niman Bah-Geri ah.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:53 pm
by ina aadan
There is no low IQ Ogadens in Somaliland by settlement. Jibrahil is a small stand alone clan that lives with the HY, during the wars they were with the SNM, were's
the Gahayle were punished for supporting the Siad Bare government.
Inatana ma futadaada kala soo baxday? waligoodna may snm noqo.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:59 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
I'm not so sure about Gahayle but the Jibraahiil as far as I know are OG, you are the first person to tell me that they are not.
I used to hear Ugays Labe are a stand alone clan but I've met so many Warsangelis claiming them.
the majerteen forumers in here used to say that gahayle isn't one of them but sheegato clan, they said the same for jibraahiil too.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:01 pm
by Guul13
the majerteen forumers in here used to say that gahayle isn't one of them but sheegato clan, they said the same for jibraahiil too.
I Know it must hurt to see Majerteen in Ceerigaabo but you don't have to make shit up. :dj:

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:07 pm
by CaynabaX
Ugayslabe are Indians originally while the Jibraahiil are Isaaq magan in Sanaag same goes for Lo'jir. Only the Magaado clan who reside in Sanaag always fought alongside the Isaaq same goes for the Reer Dood who live in Hawd.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:12 pm
by Guul13
yes, Ugayslabe are a result of Indian/Warsangeli intermarriage, today they're counted as Warsangeli. They're not listed as 0.5, nor are they magan to any tribe.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:12 pm
by Siciid85
Waxan aad ka hadlaysiin wa magan Habar Yoonis, all those small groups.

How the Jibrail did not assist the government of Siad Bare were's the Gahayle did as a result they were punished.
The Jibrail lineage represents the second important minority group in Erigavo district. They claim Ogaden descent, but unlike the Gaheyle did not offer support
to the military government in the civil war. Therefore, they now live in harmony in their homelands with Habar Yonis.In common with the displaced Gaheyle,
they have an Akil and enjoy independent status in spite of the fact that they occupy a lowly status as a result of their small number
.
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The Jibrahil in here claim Majerteen origin?
the Jibrahil is a Majertein subclan of the Darod
Specific information on the treatment of the Jibrahil by the Isaq or other Somalis.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,463 ... ,0,,,.html



Like I said they are just stand alone small sub clan and only claim different lineages because of association. In the Somaliland parliament the Jibrail
are a stand alone clan.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:14 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
the majerteen forumers in here used to say that gahayle isn't one of them but sheegato clan, they said the same for jibraahiil too.
I Know it must hurt to see Majerteen in Ceerigaabo but you don't have to make shit up. :dj:
okay then
They are not Majerteen. No MJs live west of Bosaso or Qardho or Garowe, that is our border with Waqoyi culture and people. If they were real Siwaqroon they would have moved into Bargaal and Caluula, not Bosaso. They are just like the Cawrmale who claim Warsangeli or the Galgale who claim Majerteen or the Bucur Buceyr who claim Isaaq.
Gahayle waa Gaboye camal, sida Jibrail, Akisho. Qabiil cusub ayee markasta sheegtan madaame ey yihin dadka la yaso.

Mana aha Darod. Asalkooda waxa weeye Bantu.


Hence Somaliland Parliament in 1997 allocated 9 of its 164 seats to minority groups, 1 each for the Gaboye (Midgan and Yibir), the Tumal, the Arabs of Yemenite origin and the Gugura Oromo, and 2 each for Akiisho and Madigan Bantus of the West and Jibrail and Gahayle Bantus of the East. See also Kirk, J.W.C. : “ The Yibirs and Midgans of Somaliland, their traditions and dialects ”. Journal of the Royal African Society vol.4, n°13, 1904 : pp.91-108.

http://www.somraf.org/downloads/Somali% ... fugees.pdf
monk of moqdisho:waa gartay,but are u saying gahayle's majerteen lineage is disputed as well? cuz i never heard anyone calling em majerteen.the neighboring tribes that they intermarry with(HY,nalaye axmed,warsans) refer to them just as gahayle.

Only iidoors claim Gaheyle are Majerteen, they even created a fake lineage for them. No Majerteen has ever heard of these people.

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:16 pm
by Guul13
Paidmonk and cool poisons aren't experts on Majerteen. :lol:

Gahayle's Elder recently attended the grand Siwaaqroon meeting in Bari.
So, try again. :ducktales:

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:22 pm
by FarIyoAlif
Guul - adigu ma OG baad tahay mise MJ?

Ina aadan - Jibraahiilku ma noqon karaan bah geridii ka soo hadhay darawiishtii?

Re: I see only one option for Hawiye & MX regarding JubbaLa

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:23 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
ever heard of: "ama buur ahoow, ama buur ku tirsanoow"

if they claim they are a larger clan of course they will reap the benefits (i.e. more reps in govt. etc) otherwise they will be treated like 0.5