How come Hawiye haven't established a federal state

[The_Emperior5]

I wonder why the Hawiyes haven't established a federal state yet, galguduud mudug hiiraan state

Shabeelada dhexe shabeelada hoose banadir state, even digil and mirifle can join hawiye and rahanweyn should join one state.

Shabeelada dhexe shabeelada hoose banadir bay and bakool should be one state

Galgduud and Mudug hiiraan state should be one state

[STARKAST]

SL fans whats wrong feeling the heat ? Pathetic attempt sxb...

[Zizzz]

The nigga who said Somalia should adopt federalism knew exactly what he was doing. Since caqli aan yeeshey I never gave up hope on a united Somalia. Even if I saw the bigger picture on what was happening I never gave up. But wallahi I feel hopeless now. This constitution has taken us to a point of no return. I take my hat off for Melez. He really did us, he really, really did us.

[GIJaamac]

The nigga who said Somalia should adopt federalism knew exactly what he was doing. Since caqli aan yeeshey I never gave up hope on a united Somalia. Even if I saw the bigger picture on what was happening I never gave up. But wallahi I feel hopeless now. This constitution has taken us to a point of no return. I take my hat off for Melez. He really did us, he really, really did us.

It was a western plan. Meles was just a house negro.

The emperior aka khalid ali aka hutuking01 aka the white worshipping self-hating qaldaan

Dowladeena ayaan wax walbo uga dambeynaa. Federalism wax hirgalaaya ma ahan. Sidaas ula soco.

[The_Emperior5]

So hawiye does not want federalism , why did your elders approve it and leaders, never understand that if you are against federalism, why go with it , b
By the way the gacanyare is my assistant, but we have nothing to do with imam hutuking

i dont think it was a western plan , its what SOmalis were pushing for

So hawiye will not built a federal state?

[SahanGalbeed]

The whole idea behind the federal concept is so that every state becomes multi tribal.
My Hawiye friends do not let the machiavellian gibberish of those who are in all matters nothing but truely frightened , get to your head .
Somalidu waxay u kala baxday , wakhtigaa maanta , those who want peace , democracy and prosperity for all somalis , and those don't !
Pick a side .

[Nomand]

shabeele hoose is digil iyo mirifle,

galgaduud is shared with darod and mudug is shared with darod and half is part of puntland.

the only place they can do is banaadir and shabeele dhexe, but tarzan and the goverment said banaadir will never be part of any federal state, so hawiye can't get a federal state that is why they are against jubbaland.

[Titanium]

Hiiraan is going to be a federal state soon. It has been cut into two provinces. You have 1 Hawiye state.

The two Shabelle provinces should join. That would give us two Hawiye states. I've heard rumors of Shabelle joining but doesnt seem true.

I honestly don't believe Hawiye give a damn. They look like they prefer to be under central rule. I think this would be best. Central government can be able to let the aid money and the federal funds trickle down to the central regions and there could be some development. While other regions want to ignore the central government, the central government would have no option but to only allow the central regions develop as the Turks are here, as the western world have come to help us.

Zizzz is right. The man who wanted federalism and pushed for it knew exactly what he was doing. But he failed. Federalism doesn't mean anything for Hawiye. Majority of Hawiye live in Muqdisho. Looks like Hiiraan is going to be established as a federal state and if not, it doesn't matter. Let is all go under central rule. Central rule is better than federalism for Hawiye. Considering the circumstances, it is better. Autonomy doesn't make sense for Hawiye. For Darod it does but not Hawiye. Hawiye have no one to run from. Their rights are always secured. Why have autonomy when they are the government? They will always be the government. The government is in their town. They have Muqdisho, it is their base.

[The_Emperior5]

shabeele hoose is digil iyo mirifle,

galgaduud is shared with darod and mudug is shared with darod and half is part of puntland.

the only place they can do is banaadir and shabeele dhexe, but tarzan and the goverment said banaadir will never be part of any federal state, so hawiye can't get a federal state that is why they are against jubbaland.

Galguduud and mudug and hiiraan are hawiye degaans ofcourse there are small dir merehaan and mj communities but its overall Hawiye,

The same way the hawiyes in jubbaland are a minority

Shabelada hoose has also many abgaals and if its added to shabelade dhexe it will be dominated by hawiyes, and dirs biyomaals. the digil amnd mirifles bay and abkool can join the hawiye state 2


i know the current constitution is a transitional constitution it will be put to a referendum in 2016 and the people will approve it to be a permanent constitution or not

[Nomand]

if a state is cut in half, it will unleash a pandora box that will never be closed, soon we will see 24000 different states and 5000 federal states in somalia. it will be the end of turtle goverment.

[The_Emperior5]

Hiiraan is going to be a federal state soon. It has been cut into two provinces. You have 1 Hawiye state.

The two Shabelle provinces should join. That would give us two Hawiye states. I've heard rumors of Shabelle joining but doesnt seem true.

I honestly don't believe Hawiye give a damn. They look like they prefer to be under central rule. I think this would be best. Central government can be able to let the aid money and the federal funds trickle down to the central regions and there could be some development. While other regions want to ignore the central government, the central government would have no option but to only allow the central regions develop as the Turks are here, as the western world have come to help us.

Zizzz is right. The man who wanted federalism and pushed for it knew exactly what he was doing. But he failed. Federalism doesn't mean anything for Hawiye. Majority of Hawiye live in Muqdisho. Looks like Hiiraan is going to be established as a federal state and if not, it doesn't matter. Let is all go under central rule. Central rule is better than federalism for Hawiye. Considering the circumstances, it is better. Autonomy doesn't make sense for Hawiye. For Darod it does but not Hawiye. Hawiye have no one to run from. Their rights are always secured. Why have autonomy when they are the government? They will always be the government. The government is in their town. They have Muqdisho, it is their base.

This makes sense since Hawiye is the government it doesnt matter for them to create states, hawiye has it good as long as the capital remains Mogadishu and i am certain there is no city in Somalia that can compete with xamar when it comes to size and history and population.

Hasssan sheikh the other day said the goverment will be from mudug to the kenyan border

[Garuun]

these fake 'states' is daydream.Somalia is one ethinic nation.which means federalism wont work how much they try it.

[The_Emperior5]

The whole idea behind the federal concept is so that every state becomes multi tribal.
My Hawiye friends do not let the machiavellian gibberish of those who are in all matters nothing but truely frightened , get to your head .
Somalidu waxay u kala baxday , wakhtigaa maanta , those who want peace , democracy and prosperity for all somalis , and those don't !
Pick a side .

The idea of federalism was created for clanish interests

bay and bakool state

Puntland darood state

Jubbaland darood state

and the hawiyes to form several hawiye states
That was the idea of federalism to carve the country into clan states

I dont think Majeerteen Puntland will ever share a state with sacad whom they share the same city , and now with the whole jubbaland lets see how it goes

[GIJaamac]

shabeele hoose is digil iyo mirifle,

galgaduud is shared with darod and mudug is shared with darod and half is part of puntland.

the only place they can do is banaadir and shabeele dhexe, but tarzan and the goverment said banaadir will never be part of any federal state, so hawiye can't get a federal state that is why they are against jubbaland.

Daarood are minority in J/Hoose, J/dhexe is 0-5 % daarood. Only place in south with majority daarood is gaajo Gedo bro.

Mudug iyo Galgaduudba iska dhaaf waa majority HG. But hey , who said you can´t dream about majority daarood Jubbaland. After all dreams are free.

[Nomand]

shabeele hoose is digil iyo mirifle,

galgaduud is shared with darod and mudug is shared with darod and half is part of puntland.

the only place they can do is banaadir and shabeele dhexe, but tarzan and the goverment said banaadir will never be part of any federal state, so hawiye can't get a federal state that is why they are against jubbaland.

Galguduud and mudug and hiiraan are hawiye degaans ofcourse there are small dir merehaan and mj communities but its overall Hawiye,

The same way the hawiyes in jubbaland are a minority

Shabelada hoose has also many abgaals and if its added to shabelade dhexe it will be dominated by hawiyes, and dirs biyomaals. the digil amnd mirifles bay and abkool can join the hawiye state 2


i know the current constitution is a transitional constitution it will be put to a referendum in 2016 and the people will approve it to be a permanent constitution or not

first of all half of mudug is darood, you have MJ'S, marehans, leelkase. biggest city gaalkacyo is 80 percent daarood.

galgaduud majority is hawiye but marehan make up 20 percent with of the population and land mass in galgaduud, plus the biggest city is caabudwaaq.