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political balance gets back to kismayo

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political balance gets back to kismayo

Postby sahal80 » Thu May 16, 2013 11:49 am

The International news agencies are now reporting a different political caraziness story than mogadisho vs jubbaland; a claim that was plaintly believed to be true but now they had a clarifying moment.
No doubt that shaykh madoobe has fallen into the govts trap by creating a more muddled issue for himself and his political camp.
On the other side, col barre hiiraale landing kismayo was a big influential development and a sharp relief no matter it was a govt plot or his own accord they needed an exceptionally powerful man and a heavy weight politician that could face ahmed madoobe in this political struggle.
And its gets crazier when a third from the other native clans declares himself as the president of a waamostate.
What we can expect now to happen internationally is the enforcement of the govt authority in there before any body takes the law in his hands.
This govt is backed by the west, so, to stop the proxy wars, telling kenya: for goodness sake get out from somalia.
The politics and priorities would change from now on according to the new political balance in kismayo wich the latest developments have made it absolutely clear.




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MOGADISHU, May 16 – A warlord in southern Somalia’s Jubaland has declared himself “president” of the region, clan leaders said Thursday, shortly after the election of another militia commander to the post.

With tensions already high, the move raised the risk of clashes between rival factions in the southern port city of Kismayo, a former stronghold of the Al-Qaeda-linked Shebab, where Kenyan troops in an African Union force are now based.

The city was quiet Thursday, but residents have reported clan militia reinforcing their positions across Kismayo.

On Wednesday, former Islamist warlord Ahmed Madobe was elected Jubaland’s “president” by a conference of some 500 elders and local leaders.

Neither the title nor the region itself is recognised by the weak central government in Mogadishu.

His supporters — including the powerful Ras Kamboni militia — fired heavy machine guns into the sky to celebrate his appointment, residents said.

“They were firing guns late into the night…the situation is calm now but the city is tense, there are fears of clashes between militia,” Kismayo resident Hassan Mohamud told AFP.

Madobe is a key ally of Kenya, and his appointment risks opening a rift between Nairobi and Mogadishu.

But shortly afterwards, former Somali defence minister and warlord Barre Hirale, who comes from a rival clan, declared himself also president after a separate conference.

“I was nominated president of Jubaland by the elders…I call on the people to support my presidency to assist me in bringing peace,” Hirale told reporters.

“The conference where I was nominated was organised and belonged to the people… while the other conference was organised and pushed by Kenya,” he added, calling on people “to lay down their arms and help rebuild the region.”

Hirale, a veteran militia commander from the Marehan clan, has in recent years been backed by Ethiopia to battle Shebab insurgents.

Both elections are understood to be opposed by the central government in the capital Mogadishu, which is keen to stamp its authority on the lawless and war-ravaged nation, not to see further regional splits.

There was no immediate reaction to developments from Mogadishu.

“If fighting breaks out in Kismayo, it will be the Somali government that will take responsibility for the bloodshed, because they are creating instability between brotherly clans,” Madobe told reporters.

Residents in Kismayo said they now had two leaders.

“Today we have two presidents, and one of them is aided by Kenya’s army…the city is quiet but people are not moving in the streets as they are worried,” Kismayo resident Ahmed Ali said Thursday.

“Clan militia supporting either side are reinforcing their positions across the town,” he told AFP by telephone.


Invading Kenyan troops — now part of the AU force mandated to support the government in Mogadishu — captured Kismayo alongside Madobe’s troops in October 2012.

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Re: political balance gets back to kismayo

Postby xaliye123 » Thu May 16, 2013 11:59 am

Do not kid yourself buddy.

Arintu waa Muqdisho,Jabuuti iyo Hargesia VS Jubaland, Puntland iyo Khaatumo idinkaana sidaas ka dhigay, idinkaana dawladiini sidaas ku burburin raba.

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Re: political balance gets back to kismayo

Postby Faranacab » Thu May 16, 2013 12:06 pm

I barely understand wuxuu Sahal is dhex dhigay, but a simple glance of how President Ahmed was elected will easy all the turtle head aches.. :lol:

A grass root revolution, for legitimate federal government. Idam Alle, JL and its allies will have the upper hand always.



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Re: political balance gets back to kismayo

Postby sahal80 » Thu May 16, 2013 12:45 pm

Do not kid yourself buddy.

Arintu waa Muqdisho,Jabuuti iyo Hargesia VS Jubaland, Puntland iyo Khaatumo idinkaana sidaas ka dhigay, idinkaana dawladiini sidaas ku burburin raba.
We are not talking about the somali politics, we are talking about how the world sees. Read aljazira, al arabia, euro-news... They all put it as a two warlords facing eachother in kismayo just like cali mahdi and aideed in xamar but this era is not a warlord era and they will enforce the govts authority in there. Get my logic pls. In this way, you can put your own point of view how the things would be seen internationally.

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Re: political balance gets back to kismayo

Postby Faranacab » Thu May 16, 2013 2:04 pm

Aljazeera, foxnews, Euronews, are not different from Radiomoqdisho, or RadioKismaayo . They are just news portals for average man. Internationally speaking, give it two days when presidents IGAD countries, UN, and AU visit Kismaayo and force Xasan Sheikh to sit with JL President and endorse the new born state.
IGAD, Midowga Afrika Iyo Qaramadda Midoobey!

Dhamaan Ururaddan si rismi ah waxay hoosta ooga xariiqeen in doorashadda la gaba gabeeyo isla markaasna xog dhab ah ayay ka hayeen qabashadda Doorashadda, waxaa sidaa noo xaqiijiyay Siyaasi diiday inaan magaciisa shaacino.

Itoobiya Iyo Kenya!

Labadda Dowladood waxay isku raaceen in Axmed Madoobe Iyo Maamulka Cusub la taageero waxaana la filayaa in Wafuud Dowladda Itoobiya, Kenya Iyo Soomaaliya booqdaan si wadda jir ah Kismaayo.

Madaxwaynaha Soomaaliya Xassan Sheekh Maxamud ayaa maalmahan soo socda iman Doono Addis Ababa wuxuuna kullan la qaadan doonaa Bulshadda Caalamka.

Dowladda Maraykanka ayaa kaddib Doorashadda amar ku siisay Taliyaha AMISOM inuu booqdo Kismaayo isla markaasna la shaqeeyo Maamulka Jubbaland State.

http://ogadentoday.com/news.php?readmore=8494

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Re: political balance gets back to kismayo

Postby sahal80 » Thu May 16, 2013 3:24 pm

Aljazeera, foxnews, Euronews, are not different from Radiomoqdisho, or RadioKismaayo . They are just news portals for average man. Internationally speaking, give it two days when presidents IGAD countries, UN, and AU visit Kismaayo and force Xasan Sheikh to sit with JL President and endorse the new born state.
IGAD, Midowga Afrika Iyo Qaramadda Midoobey!

Dhamaan Ururaddan si rismi ah waxay hoosta ooga xariiqeen in doorashadda la gaba gabeeyo isla markaasna xog dhab ah ayay ka hayeen qabashadda Doorashadda, waxaa sidaa noo xaqiijiyay Siyaasi diiday inaan magaciisa shaacino.

Itoobiya Iyo Kenya!

Labadda Dowladood waxay isku raaceen in Axmed Madoobe Iyo Maamulka Cusub la taageero waxaana la filayaa in Wafuud Dowladda Itoobiya, Kenya Iyo Soomaaliya booqdaan si wadda jir ah Kismaayo.

Madaxwaynaha Soomaaliya Xassan Sheekh Maxamud ayaa maalmahan soo socda iman Doono Addis Ababa wuxuuna kullan la qaadan doonaa Bulshadda Caalamka.

Dowladda Maraykanka ayaa kaddib Doorashadda amar ku siisay Taliyaha AMISOM inuu booqdo Kismaayo isla markaasna la shaqeeyo Maamulka Jubbaland State.

http://ogadentoday.com/news.php?readmore=8494
Lol at your source while denying the international sources.
Let me tell you; igad will be firstly arriving xamar, the govt has already three votes from djbouti, sudan, south sudan and ethiopia is unknown the other guy is from kenya meantime when in mogadisho a representatives from the govt will be joining them to kismayo and the report will be; there is a conflict in kismayo we are only recognized the govts authority. They will come back with their report during the AU meeting in this month in addis.
Before the conflict things were less complicated, if he had waited for them things may have looked normal.
Before igad first you need to get an amisom recognition...from its chief. for example each southren administration is recognized by the govt therefore amisom are supporting it againist the others but now the govt doesn't recognise you so you can't get an amisom support, they only recognise the army until they set up an official administration.


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