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ceeb yaanyo: ictiraaf is difficult thing to get, oh lawd!

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:02 pm

MADAXWEYNAHA SOMALILAND: "Ma ahan wax sahlan in Somaliland Waddan Madaxbannaan loo Aqoonsado"

Khamiis, Juun 06, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Somaliland, Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) oo wareysi gaar ah siiyay Tv-ga Al-Jazeera ayaa sheegay in Somaliland loo aqoonsado dal madax-bannaan aysan ahayn mid fudud, balse caalamka ay kala dhexeyso wadashaqeyn dhab ah.

Siilaanyo ayaa wareysigiisa ku sheegay in Somaliland aysan dib ula midoobi doonin Soomaaliya, balse ay sii wadi doonaan wadahadallada kala dhexeeya dowladda Soomaaliya si ay wadashaqeyni u dhexmarto.

“Somailland ma helin wax aqoonsi tan iyo markii ay ku dhawaaqday inay ka go’day Soomaaliya inteeda kale, wax fududna ma ahan in aqoonsi aan helno, balse beesha calaamku si dhab ah ayay noola shaqeysaa. Taasina waxay muujinaysaa inaanan caalamka ka go’nayn. Anigu waxaan aadaan dalkii aan doono oo caalamka ah, iyaguna way noo yimaadaan, taageero aan helnaa waala la shaqeynaa caalamka,” ayuu kaga jawaabay Siilaanyo sababta loo aqoonsan la’yahay muddo 22-sano ah.

Madaxweynaha Somaliland wuxuu rajo wanaagsan ka muujiyay in aqoonsi ay heli doonaan, isagoo sheegay in Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ay muddo dheer kala ahaayeen laba dal oo ay kala gumeysan jireen Talyaaniga iyo Ingiriiska ayna filayaan in sida Jabuuti oo ay gumeysan jirtay Faransiiska loo ogolaado Somaliland inay noqoto dowlad madax-bannaan.

Su’aal ahayd in markii uu booqday Mareykanka uu kasoo helay ballan-qaad ah in Somalliland la aqoonsan doono iyo in kale ayuu yiri: “Maya, laakiinse waxay noo sheegeen inay lana shaqeynayaan oo ay na caawinayaan.”

Ugu dambeyn, mar la weydiiyay sida uu u arko fikirka madaxweynaha Soomaaliya oo ah in Soomaaliya ay mid ahaato, ayuu kaga jawaabay in iyagu ay qabaan in Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ay yihiin laba dal oo jaar ah, marna aysan ogoleyn inay la midoobaan, balse ay doonayaan inay si wadajir ah ay u shaqeeyaan.

Somaliland ayaa 22-sano ka hor ku dhawaaqday inay ka go’day Soomaaliya inteeda kale, iyadoo aan weli helin wax aqoonsi ah, iyadoo taasi ay caqabad ku noqotay in Somaliland ay noqoto dal madax-bannaan oo Afrika ka tirsan.

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Postby xaliye123 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:07 pm

Haduu soo baraarugay, berina sifiican buu u toosidonaa.

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Postby SecretAgent » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:07 pm

it took south sudan 54 years to wait , more then 2 million south sudan died fighting for freedom be patient my lil ayr friend i heard ahmed abdisalam is mad @Abgaal cus he didnt get a seat :lol:

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:09 pm

Secret,
It doesnt matter weither Abdisalaan is mad or went crazy. Iam looking at the bigger picture. :lol:

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Postby SecretAgent » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:12 pm

Secret,
It doesnt matter weither Abdisalaan is mad or went crazy. Iam looking at the bigger picture. :lol:
:lol: be patient we waitin jus like da kurds , taiwan , south yemen , western sahara , tamil tigers

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Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:12 pm

Hiiraanonline is not telling the truth this is the full interview in English

Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo
AljazeeraBy Nazanine Moshiri | Aljazeera – 30 minutes ago



Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo
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Aljazeera - Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo

Somaliland, a self-declared republic inside Somalia, celebrated 22 years of "independence" last month. Somalia has recently again called for unity, but Somaliland's leader says his region is doing better than other parts of Somalia.

Sitting on the Gulf of Aden, Somaliland is officially regarded as an autonomous region of Somalia. The two were, however, separate until 1960. During a civil war in the 1980s, 40,000 people from Somaliland were killed, and nearly half a million fled.

Somaliland, which is more tribally homogeneous than the rest of Somalia, has been striving for international recognition since it broke away in 1991.

Al Jazeera's Nazanine Moshiri spoke with Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo, Somaliland's president, about the challenges the area faces.

Nazanine Moshiri: President Silanyo, it has been 22 years since Somaliland declared independence, but you still haven’t managed to gain the recognition of the world. Are you any closer 22 years on?

Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo: Well, we may not have been recognised, that’s true. We realise recognition is not an easy thing - but the international community engages with us and works with us. It doesn’t mean we are cut off from the international community. On the contrary, we are very well-connected with the international community: they work with us, engage with us. I have just been travelling almost throughout the world, and meeting with governments. Governments and delegations come to us, they have aid programmes here, they support the democratisation programs here, and we deal and co-operate with the world.

NM: You refused to go to the recent conference on Somalia in London. Can you tell us why?

AS: I would like to say that we have very good historical relations with Britain. And much as we would have liked, it did not become possible for us to go because the London conference was held and chaired for Somalia.

The prime minister and the president of Somalia chaired it. After consultations with different parties and different groups, we decided that it was not acceptable to us. We attended many meetings before, where talks were being held for Somalia and Somaliland, but this one was different.

NM: A lot of money was pledged at that conference to Somalia. Do you think some of that money should go to Somaliland too?

AS: Well, I think the international community has been helping us - we receive a lot of assistance from Europe. Of course we would like to see a commitment as far as development is concerned.

NM: On your recent trip to the US, did they promise you they would recognise your statehood?

AS: No, they did not tell us they would accept [or] recognise our statehood. They said they would continue their support and development programmes, that they would continue that commitment.

NM: What do you think is behind this? The African Union is very clear on this. Do you think that if they give you and your country independence, then many other unstable regions would just flare up?

AS: Whatever the reasons maybe, Somaliland and Somalia historically have been two different countries - you know the history of Africa and many other parts of the world. They emerged from the colonial period. As a matter of fact, at the time of independence many countries offered their recognition to Somaliland. But at that time, there was so much enthusiasm to unify all Somali-speaking people in the Horn of Africa, including Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalis in Kenya and Somalis in Djibouti. [Unity] was the ambition of young people.

But that was not possible, because of the policies of the powers of the world. Eventually the principle was accepted that Somalis in Ethiopia should live as part of Ethiopia. The people of Djibouti have established their own state: it used to be called French Somaliland, and has become independent and accepted by the international community. Those parts which were part of Kenya have remained part of Kenya.

So why shouldn't Somaliland, a former protectorate, also be accepted by the international community? After the union with Somalia during Siad Barre’s regime, the type of treatment that has happened to Somaliland [was terrible]. You see the planes now in the middle of town - those were the kinds of planes that were taking of from the airport of Hargeisa and bombarding the population, including women and children, when they went out of Hargeisa to the Ethiopian border. These crimes were committed by the regime and Somaliland has ever since been struggling to become independent.

NM: You have talks going on with Somalia brokered by the Turks in Istanbul. Can you tell us how those talks are going?

AS: We held talks in Istanbul before, and the talks in Turkey are part of programme by the international community to establish reconciliation between Somalia and Somaliland. We are not against the talks; we accept them as long as they are on equal terms, and we were equally happy about the results.

NM: What did you agree on?

AS: We agreed to agree to more talks, and to respect each other and continue to co-operate in other ways.

NM: But the president of Somalia has been clear: he says he wants to unite Somalia.

AS: Well, I think I have been very clear too that we are going to return our independence. We would like to remain friends and co-operate. It is not I who decides, nor my government, but the history of Somaliland decided it will continue to be and has always been a different country.

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:13 pm

Secret,
It doesnt matter weither Abdisalaan is mad or went crazy. Iam looking at the bigger picture. :lol:
:lol: be patient we waitin jus like da kurds , taiwan , south yemen , western sahara , tamil tigers

Fair enough, inshallah you can wait until yawmul qiyaamo. :stylin:

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:15 pm

Hiiraanonline is not telling the truth this is the full interview in English

Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo
AljazeeraBy Nazanine Moshiri | Aljazeera – 30 minutes ago



Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo
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Aljazeera - Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo

Somaliland, a self-declared republic inside Somalia, celebrated 22 years of "independence" last month. Somalia has recently again called for unity, but Somaliland's leader says his region is doing better than other parts of Somalia.

Sitting on the Gulf of Aden, Somaliland is officially regarded as an autonomous region of Somalia. The two were, however, separate until 1960. During a civil war in the 1980s, 40,000 people from Somaliland were killed, and nearly half a million fled.

Somaliland, which is more tribally homogeneous than the rest of Somalia, has been striving for international recognition since it broke away in 1991.

Al Jazeera's Nazanine Moshiri spoke with Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo, Somaliland's president, about the challenges the area faces.

Nazanine Moshiri: President Silanyo, it has been 22 years since Somaliland declared independence, but you still haven’t managed to gain the recognition of the world. Are you any closer 22 years on?

Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo: Well, we may not have been recognised, that’s true. We realise recognition is not an easy thing - but the international community engages with us and works with us. It doesn’t mean we are cut off from the international community. On the contrary, we are very well-connected with the international community: they work with us, engage with us. I have just been travelling almost throughout the world, and meeting with governments. Governments and delegations come to us, they have aid programmes here, they support the democratisation programs here, and we deal and co-operate with the world.

NM: You refused to go to the recent conference on Somalia in London. Can you tell us why?

AS: I would like to say that we have very good historical relations with Britain. And much as we would have liked, it did not become possible for us to go because the London conference was held and chaired for Somalia.

The prime minister and the president of Somalia chaired it. After consultations with different parties and different groups, we decided that it was not acceptable to us. We attended many meetings before, where talks were being held for Somalia and Somaliland, but this one was different.

NM: A lot of money was pledged at that conference to Somalia. Do you think some of that money should go to Somaliland too?

AS: Well, I think the international community has been helping us - we receive a lot of assistance from Europe. Of course we would like to see a commitment as far as development is concerned.

NM: On your recent trip to the US, did they promise you they would recognise your statehood?

AS: No, they did not tell us they would accept [or] recognise our statehood. They said they would continue their support and development programmes, that they would continue that commitment.

NM: What do you think is behind this? The African Union is very clear on this. Do you think that if they give you and your country independence, then many other unstable regions would just flare up?

AS: Whatever the reasons maybe, Somaliland and Somalia historically have been two different countries - you know the history of Africa and many other parts of the world. They emerged from the colonial period. As a matter of fact, at the time of independence many countries offered their recognition to Somaliland. But at that time, there was so much enthusiasm to unify all Somali-speaking people in the Horn of Africa, including Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalis in Kenya and Somalis in Djibouti. [Unity] was the ambition of young people.

But that was not possible, because of the policies of the powers of the world. Eventually the principle was accepted that Somalis in Ethiopia should live as part of Ethiopia. The people of Djibouti have established their own state: it used to be called French Somaliland, and has become independent and accepted by the international community. Those parts which were part of Kenya have remained part of Kenya.

So why shouldn't Somaliland, a former protectorate, also be accepted by the international community? After the union with Somalia during Siad Barre’s regime, the type of treatment that has happened to Somaliland [was terrible]. You see the planes now in the middle of town - those were the kinds of planes that were taking of from the airport of Hargeisa and bombarding the population, including women and children, when they went out of Hargeisa to the Ethiopian border. These crimes were committed by the regime and Somaliland has ever since been struggling to become independent.

NM: You have talks going on with Somalia brokered by the Turks in Istanbul. Can you tell us how those talks are going?

AS: We held talks in Istanbul before, and the talks in Turkey are part of programme by the international community to establish reconciliation between Somalia and Somaliland. We are not against the talks; we accept them as long as they are on equal terms, and we were equally happy about the results.

NM: What did you agree on?

AS: We agreed to agree to more talks, and to respect each other and continue to co-operate in other ways.

NM: But the president of Somalia has been clear: he says he wants to unite Somalia.

AS: Well, I think I have been very clear too that we are going to return our independence. We would like to remain friends and co-operate. It is not I who decides, nor my government, but the history of Somaliland decided it will continue to be and has always been a different country.

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Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:17 pm

it took south sudan 54 years to wait , more then 2 million south sudan died fighting for freedom be patient my lil ayr friend i heard ahmed abdisalam is mad @Abgaal cus he didnt get a seat :lol:

Exactly it took south sudan more than 50 years
it took Eritrea more than 30 years

Somaliland and Somalia relations could have been restored very easy

But hey Somalia ,, had no functioning government the past 22 years

no one to dialogue to

Somaliland is independent and even has semi recognition with its Somaliland development corporations it can do business with the IC
foreign delegates visit the countries Somaliland does meet world leaders
It does just not have full recognition for its independence. But its a state its functions it holds elections it has security forces and it has an economy.

Somalilanders were dumb because they sold their sovreingty because of qiiro lol not even for money but for qiiro , lol
But its good we got over it now

I am sure SL will be recognized in the near future.there is nothing stopping us really. Lets see how the talks go in the next coming weeks they will either fail or we will get a nice deal. Either way we have what we want and that is independence, something no one can take from us , as long as we rule the land , there is no one that can stop us.

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Postby SecretAgent » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:17 pm

ayrking pls leave barawa , marka n go bak to ur lands u have uranium deposits make a regional state for central somalia state u dont belong in lower shabelle :x

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Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:19 pm

Hiiraanonline is not telling the truth this is the full interview in English

Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo
AljazeeraBy Nazanine Moshiri | Aljazeera – 30 minutes ago



Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo
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Aljazeera - Q&A: Somaliland leader Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo

Somaliland, a self-declared republic inside Somalia, celebrated 22 years of "independence" last month. Somalia has recently again called for unity, but Somaliland's leader says his region is doing better than other parts of Somalia.

Sitting on the Gulf of Aden, Somaliland is officially regarded as an autonomous region of Somalia. The two were, however, separate until 1960. During a civil war in the 1980s, 40,000 people from Somaliland were killed, and nearly half a million fled.

Somaliland, which is more tribally homogeneous than the rest of Somalia, has been striving for international recognition since it broke away in 1991.

Al Jazeera's Nazanine Moshiri spoke with Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo, Somaliland's president, about the challenges the area faces.

Nazanine Moshiri: President Silanyo, it has been 22 years since Somaliland declared independence, but you still haven’t managed to gain the recognition of the world. Are you any closer 22 years on?

Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo: Well, we may not have been recognised, that’s true. We realise recognition is not an easy thing - but the international community engages with us and works with us. It doesn’t mean we are cut off from the international community. On the contrary, we are very well-connected with the international community: they work with us, engage with us. I have just been travelling almost throughout the world, and meeting with governments. Governments and delegations come to us, they have aid programmes here, they support the democratisation programs here, and we deal and co-operate with the world.

NM: You refused to go to the recent conference on Somalia in London. Can you tell us why?

AS: I would like to say that we have very good historical relations with Britain. And much as we would have liked, it did not become possible for us to go because the London conference was held and chaired for Somalia.

The prime minister and the president of Somalia chaired it. After consultations with different parties and different groups, we decided that it was not acceptable to us. We attended many meetings before, where talks were being held for Somalia and Somaliland, but this one was different.

NM: A lot of money was pledged at that conference to Somalia. Do you think some of that money should go to Somaliland too?

AS: Well, I think the international community has been helping us - we receive a lot of assistance from Europe. Of course we would like to see a commitment as far as development is concerned.

NM: On your recent trip to the US, did they promise you they would recognise your statehood?

AS: No, they did not tell us they would accept [or] recognise our statehood. They said they would continue their support and development programmes, that they would continue that commitment.

NM: What do you think is behind this? The African Union is very clear on this. Do you think that if they give you and your country independence, then many other unstable regions would just flare up?

AS: Whatever the reasons maybe, Somaliland and Somalia historically have been two different countries - you know the history of Africa and many other parts of the world. They emerged from the colonial period. As a matter of fact, at the time of independence many countries offered their recognition to Somaliland. But at that time, there was so much enthusiasm to unify all Somali-speaking people in the Horn of Africa, including Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalis in Kenya and Somalis in Djibouti. [Unity] was the ambition of young people.

But that was not possible, because of the policies of the powers of the world. Eventually the principle was accepted that Somalis in Ethiopia should live as part of Ethiopia. The people of Djibouti have established their own state: it used to be called French Somaliland, and has become independent and accepted by the international community. Those parts which were part of Kenya have remained part of Kenya.

So why shouldn't Somaliland, a former protectorate, also be accepted by the international community? After the union with Somalia during Siad Barre’s regime, the type of treatment that has happened to Somaliland [was terrible]. You see the planes now in the middle of town - those were the kinds of planes that were taking of from the airport of Hargeisa and bombarding the population, including women and children, when they went out of Hargeisa to the Ethiopian border. These crimes were committed by the regime and Somaliland has ever since been struggling to become independent.

NM: You have talks going on with Somalia brokered by the Turks in Istanbul. Can you tell us how those talks are going?

AS: We held talks in Istanbul before, and the talks in Turkey are part of programme by the international community to establish reconciliation between Somalia and Somaliland. We are not against the talks; we accept them as long as they are on equal terms, and we were equally happy about the results.

NM: What did you agree on?

AS: We agreed to agree to more talks, and to respect each other and continue to co-operate in other ways.

NM: But the president of Somalia has been clear: he says he wants to unite Somalia.

AS: Well, I think I have been very clear too that we are going to return our independence. We would like to remain friends and co-operate. It is not I who decides, nor my government, but the history of Somaliland decided it will continue to be and has always been a different country.
But of the entire interview they took that line hiiraanonline beryahan wa biased,.
When the president talked about almost everything.

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:21 pm

ayrking pls leave barawa , marka n go bak to ur lands u have uranium deposits make a regional state for central somalia state u dont belong in lower shabelle :x

You dont belong in Sanaag, Awdal and Tuna towns. When you leave these places, i will think about leaving shabeellada hoose. :notsure:

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:24 pm

Gacanyare, actually they are not biased these days. I think some isaaq ganacsade told them to leave out "Maamulka" when talking about maamulka waqooyi. They used to be biased, now it seems isaaq money changed that. Few months ago every news about sland was spammed with maamulka, now its different story. They do it one or two times.

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Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:26 pm

Imam hutuking how about you keep shabeelooyinka and u stop insulting our president

and leave our Somaliland alone, and our tuna's and we will not mention your isbaaros in lower shabelle :D :up:

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Postby SecretAgent » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:28 pm

ayrking pls leave barawa , marka n go bak to ur lands u have uranium deposits make a regional state for central somalia state u dont belong in lower shabelle :x

You dont belong in Sanaag, Awdal and Tuna towns. When you leave these places, i will think about leaving shabeellada hoose. :notsure:
Sanag is shared HJ , HY , Hartis ,large Gabooye , Awdal was told to shut up in xamar elections now samatar is home n relaxing. meanin while all ayr politicians failed :lol: n some killed by der nephews :lol: n some r shababist


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