AU to deploy djabouti, uganda, burundi, seirra.. in kismayo

[sahal80]

After his meeting with somali leaders ambassador mohamed anadif has made contacts with his AU revealing that they got solution to kismayo wich is deploy in there a joint amisom troops from these countries.

[The_Emperior5]

Interesting development if the SFG manages to do that , than that is a major win but i doubt the AU can decide on this the EU has the final say and the Kenyans came inside Somalia to protect their interests, (their security) and to help Somalia defeat Alshabaab

[grandpakhalif]

Interesting news, but currently there is no SFG officers and soldiers in Kenya only ragtag rogue KDF backed RK so how will these troops co-ordinate with? They must contact Taliye Guud ee Jubbooyinka Col. Cabaas and remove the trouble makers.

[Somali-Transporter]

Interesting development if the SFG manages to do that , than that is a major win but i doubt the AU can decide on this the EU has the final say and the Kenyans came inside Somalia to protect their interests, (their security) and to help Somalia defeat Alshabaab

Somalia government is USA's best Allies in somalia, fighting their war for them, so when u have them on your side, everything will be out of your way..

The war on terror Card.. its stronger then kenya or anything! trust me!

The US tell the EU what to do.. and they share the same ideas! so if the gov't complain and say to the Americans kenya, a putting jeopardy, in the war on terror! giving people reason to join al-shabaab again! the Americans will remove them as quickly as possible..

And the Question is why will the Americans do this, because they are the once, paying, for everybody on the ground, and they are tired, and in money-crisis, back at home..

They are willing to sit with taliban! so they do not wish, somalis having reasons to join al-shabaab

[The_Emperior5]

The Americans do not pay the bills of the Amisom forces the European union does.Yes America support Somalia, but not at the expense of Kenya , Kenya is a more important ally to the west than any other country in the horn. Maybe Ethiopia is a bit closer to the US than Kenya. the West America the eu believe Somalia is recovering and they believe in anything that stabilize Somalia. So that said there is a chance they instruct the AU to go ahead with this plan. But there is a chance they dont bless it . Remember Kenya has a more effective foreign policy and a more resourceful foreign ministry than Somalia altogether. So it will be difficult but we shall see how it goes.

[Somali-Transporter]

The Americans do not pay the bills of the Amisom forces the European union does.Yes America support Somalia, but not at the expense of Kenya , Kenya is a more important ally to the west than any other country in the horn. Maybe Ethiopia is a bit closer to the US than Kenya. the West America the eu believe Somalia is recovering and they believe in anything that stabilize Somalia. So that said there is a chance they instruct the AU to go ahead with this plan. But there is a chance they dont bless it . Remember Kenya has a more effective foreign policy and a more resourceful foreign ministry than Somalia altogether. So it will be difficult but we shall see how it goes.

Then why will the US and Eu risk paying for some bantus for years of war..what brought this people first here, is the war on terror, and this Money is being paid because of the war on terror, and they are close to reaching their Victory, do you think they care about bantus expansions, into a country were there is already war on terror, and this will only result in them paying more everyday.. and europ is in crisis??

It do not seem logic right! they will remove kenya.. because kenya is in their way or policy right now, making more al-shabaab..

[The_Emperior5]

The Americans do not pay the bills of the Amisom forces the European union does.Yes America support Somalia, but not at the expense of Kenya , Kenya is a more important ally to the west than any other country in the horn. Maybe Ethiopia is a bit closer to the US than Kenya. the West America the eu believe Somalia is recovering and they believe in anything that stabilize Somalia. So that said there is a chance they instruct the AU to go ahead with this plan. But there is a chance they dont bless it . Remember Kenya has a more effective foreign policy and a more resourceful foreign ministry than Somalia altogether. So it will be difficult but we shall see how it goes.

Then why will the US and Eu risk paying for some bantus for years of war..what brought this people first here, is the war on terror, and this Money is being paid because of the war on terror, and they are close to reaching their Victory, do you think they care about bantus expansions, into a country were there is already war on terror, and this will only result in them paying more everyday.. and europ is in crisis??

It do not seem logic right! they will remove kenya.. because kenya is in their way or policy right now, making more al-shabaab..

Kenya is one of the west closest ally both in the war against terrorism, Kenya does not creates Alshabaab, there are shabaab cells in Kenya aswel by the way Alshabaab is not a real real threat to American interests but more to the region Ethiopia Kenya . The west the EU will continue to pay , but the EU understands the conflict remember they helped with the transition to draft the clan federal constitution of Somalia. They know there is no islamists problem in Somalia. They know there are problems they will let Somalis solve those matters, but the Kenyans will remain as a surveillance in the region

[Somali-Transporter]

Do u think they will let Kenya bantu lead them further in to Financial crisis?? the answer no???

Besides that kenya, are just bantus not Israel..

[grandpakhalif]

Emperor what Transporter is saying, that Kenya alienating some clans will give Shabab good resurgence because of this.

[The_Emperior5]

Do u think they will let Kenya bantu lead them further in to Financial crisis?? the answer no???

Besides that kenya, are just bantus not Israel..

Who said Kenya is leading them into a financial crisis. They will continue to pay Uganda Kenya burundi Nigeria siere leone Djibouti , the recent clashes are not alarming for the Europeans to step in

[Somali-Transporter]

Do u think they will let Kenya bantu lead them further in to Financial crisis?? the answer no???

Besides that kenya, are just bantus not Israel..

Who said Kenya is leading them into a financial crisis. They will continue to pay Uganda Kenya burundi Nigeria siere leone Djibouti , the recent clashes are not alarming for the Europeans to step in

if the government complains about Things standing in their way, and only creating more al-shabaab fighters, US and the EU.. will remove it right away..

[original dervish]

Do you think the Westerners are stupid?
They know somali political/clan dynamics inside out.

The Govt is full of former Shabaab members and sympathizers.
The recent Xamar atrocities demonstrate the complete infiltration of shabaab into the Somali security apparatus.
Kenya will rightly argue that Govt collusion with Shabaab poses an existential threat to Kenyan security interests.

J/land will continue to import arms and recruit/train thousands of troops.
In six months time both Jubbas will be under J/Land federal Govt.

[sahal80]

The Somali govt didn't like to clash with kenya, they thoughta bout to involve her for their interests but bc they lately lost their cards they come to this radical solution.

Whatever this govt(mostly) asks for they will do for it, like the UNSOM.

It was this govt who asked yesterday a joint troops of amisom

Anadif said these 5 countries have to seriously closely work with the govts officials.
In kismayo and keep the peace and security in the town.

This westren analysis says: "since mogadisho weak central govt does not recognize the title of president or the region of jubbaland, the kenyan troops are seen as opposing the central govt they are mandated and funded by the UN and european union to support"

[The_Emperior5]

Somali transporter ofcourse they can complain but u need arguments evidence also u need the support of the neighboring AU countries. The international community is well aware about the clan feuds in Somalia. If hassan really wants to challenge the Kenyans in Somalia he has to play a more effective diplomatic fight.. The Europeans cannot be easily persuaded, its very easy the Kenyans will be asked are you guys stimulating the Alshabaab fighters or not they will say no we are fighting alshabaab. But Somalia is in conflict and we recall Somalis to solve their issues but we are just there to assist and help Somalia alshabaab. You have to understand Kenya invested in Raskambooni and the EU invested in Kenya. If hassan wants to win the diplomatic war he first needs to be domestically in charge and he needs to win the hearts and minds of the overall constituencies in Jubbaland. Right now the somali govt is in a difficult position they cannot support barre hiiraale since he is not a member of the govt but a self styled President. The situation the Somali govt wanted to create was that there were warring Somali factions fighting over Kismayo and raskambooni was one of them. The govt after the clash wanted to be in the center of the conflict and that the somali govt leads the formation of the state after the clash they wanted to Delegitimize raskamanbooni jubbaland. Its right now one one, the government managed to unite the Divided Marehaan clan who were first in bed partly with Jubbaland axmed madoobe. Right now they have an ally in the region they just need to have boots on the ground. And that will be difficult , Axmed madoobe's Jubbaland is still in charge and the Kenyans are staying for now and that is a win for Raskambooni but they were badly damaged from legitimate perspective because they lost the support of a major stake holder.

[sahal80]

Do you think the Westerners are stupid?
They know somali political/clan dynamics inside out.

The Govt is full of former Shabaab members and sympathizers.
The recent Xamar atrocities demonstrate the complete infiltration of shabaab into the Somali security apparatus.
Kenya will rightly argue that Govt collusion with Shabaab poses an existential threat to Kenyan security interests.

J/land will continue to import arms and recruit/train thousands of troops.
In six months time both Jubbas will be under J/Land federal Govt.

Is there any thing bigger then security council? Wait on 12 july and you will see them supporting the AU joint amisom troops in kimayo.

I will see you welcoming our army brothers djabouti