UN: somalia needs amisom

[sahal80]

Also the amisom spokesperson col hamud was saying some thing like this that they have resposibility or even acting more responsible than the govt!

My information says that the amisom multi-program for kismayo has been through but could take 4 months.

Kenya denies the allegations againist it and though using the security card and saying its their national matter and not going anywhere...will lose their control over the port and the airport. Kenya is there for the port and to export the charcoal so they will lose their interest in that region...
Kenya wont be able to establish their loyal administration in kismayo as they were planning, this is the somali govts business.

They can deny, they can work underground, they can stay in that region for one reason that there is somali security forces but politically they don't own shyt, that is a fact.

The govt is planning to take the responsibility with the new shabeel military operation is getting to start at baraawe and then jilib so this is one of the plans...

Let us not kid ourselves, kenya can't even recognize madoobe administration who is losing now more his world relations because the govt owns the political process and even kenya has to align with its policy officially though they are not doing it practically
Shaykh madoobe wants now to go on his own lol first news are saying he lost it internationally he has to deal with the govt otherwise the govt will oppoint its administration.

 Our Special Representative in Mogadishu is also helping to manage the evolving relationships between Mogadishu and its neighbors, whose support remains essential to Somalia’s success.

Today, the country has, for the first time in decades, a leadership that is committed to building the state.  The archetypal failed state has before it the best chance in a generation to build a stable government and bring a measure of peace and prosperity to its people.

Let me turn now to Somalia, where we have reached a potential turning point. I was in Mogadishu just two weeks ago, my second trip there in 2013. For the UN, Somalia represents the challenge of how, in the face of so many crises demanding attention, the UN can help to sustain regional and international focus on a process that has the promise of real success but that still needs to be nurtured.   
 

 
And so the task ending anarchy and building security and a stable government in Somalia took on great strategic as well as humanitarian significance. The UN has invested heavily along with partners including the African Union and key governments such as the United States to try to turn the tide in that country.
 
 
Today, the country has, for the first time in decades, a leadership that is committed to building the state.  The archetypal failed state has before it the best chance in a generation to build a stable government and bring a measure of peace and prosperity to its people. 
 
Of course diplomacy is only one side of this story. It was a major security intervention by the African Union that fundamentally turned the tide against Al Shabab. The United States helped get that AU mission, AMISOM, off the ground and secure UN support for it. Part of our task today is making sure AMISOM continues to receive financial and political support, for the Somali security services are not yet able to extend authority across the entire state.  Somalia still needs AMISOM, and AMISOM still needs financial and logistics support from the international community.
 
The very real security gains provided already by AMISOM have helped pry open space for serious political work.  For the first time since the 1990s, the UN’s political mission for Somalia operates in Mogadishu, Our Special Representative in Mogadishu is also helping to manage the evolving relationships between Mogadishu and its neighbors, whose support remains essential to Somalia’s success. 
 

[DANGIRL]

Somalia needs an actual army not some ragtag aid ridden soldiers.

[The_Patriot]

Sahal the IC will not assist Hawiye to instal a tribal regime.
Even though Culusow's regime is less than a year old. His admin is accused of nepotism, corruption and abuse of power.
The security of Jubaland and Kenya is more important to the west than that of Xamar.
What Culusow is doing is he is shooting himself on the foot.The IC will not waste its resources to instal a dictator. Culusow is dispensable, the more he meddles with dirt the more his reputation goes down the drain.
So far as the Jubaland debacle is concerned.
Culusow is responsible for arming former warlords who have a tainted reputation .Now since the KDF refused to protect Hiraale,according to Culusow KDF have gone against their mandate. Thus should be replaced by AMISOM contingent that would allow Shabaab collaborators to regain control of the city and eventually pose threat to Kenya's internal security examples planting bombs in NEP and Kidnapping tourists in the coastal regions of Kenya.
Why do you think Kenya went into Somalia? a secure and stable JL means the same for Kenya.
The xamar regime is not acting responsibly as a state govt but an anarchist govt.
You cant simply on one hand request IC aid to build Xamar and on the other plan to distabilise other regions.

[sahal80]

Sahal the IC will not assist Hawiye to instal a tribal regime.
Even though Culusow's regime is less than a year old. His admin is accused of nepotism, corruption and abuse of power.
The security of Jubaland and Kenya is more important to the west than that of Xamar.
What Culusow is doing is he is shooting himself on the foot.The IC will not waste its resources to instal a dictator. Culusow is dispensable, the more he meddles with dirt the more his reputation goes down the drain.
So far as the Jubaland debacle is concerned.
Culusow is responsible for arming former warlords who have a tainted reputation .Now since the KDF refused to protect Hiraale,according to Culusow KDF have gone against their mandate. Thus should be replaced by AMISOM contingent that would allow Shabaab collaborators to regain control of the city and eventually pose threat to Kenya's internal security examples planting bombs in NEP and Kidnapping tourists in the coastal regions of Kenya.
Why do you think Kenya went into Somalia? a secure and stable JL means the same for Kenya.
The xamar regime is not acting responsibly as a state govt but an anarchist govt.
You cant simply on one hand request IC aid to build Xamar and on the other plan to distabilise other regions.

Yeah I know but, the kenyans are now saying they are legitimate in staying kismayo bc its for their own security and not just in conjunction with amisom, thus, they are not going to leave.

Somali govt can't ask to kick them out of jubooyinka not because it won't get accepted by the IC or that kenya have a right in staying but because of not being some thing responsible as there is no enough amisom for jubooyinka but as a government, it is respected so they can ask some thing responsible, they can remove kenya from the port and airport to the hinterland if other amisom can fullfil this job, this plan goes well now in the AU with the djaboutian help and AMiSOM for the govt interests who only care about to control the millions in port fees and taxes and kenya and raaskambooni will lose their cash flow.

Nicholas kay will be the broker as you seen in the UN statement.

[The_Patriot]

Sahal do you think Kenya actually went into Somalia to die for Culusow? Come on.
They are there for their self interest and for your info Culusow doesnt host 1 million refugees Kenya does.
So Kenya has every right to get involved and sort this issue. I dont beleive Culusow is genuinely trying to sort out the refugee crisis. He has refused aid agencies to open offices in JL because he doesnt want the locals to benefit or even allow the return of refugees that make the bulk of those in Kenya.You cant simply use the excuse of Axmed Madoobe to deny the locals an opportunity. All he is interested is funds the same funds he embezzles from the Central Bank of Somalia by appointing his comrades. As for the Kismaayo he is concerned with the revenue i.e the cash cows its ports.But not the civilians,if he was concerned with the civilians he would have not funded Baasto or Hiraale with millions of dollars.That money would have been usefull in creating sustainable projects in Kismaayo.Culusow is unhappy with the fact that Kenya did not assist his warlords to take control.Thus he is using the pretext of civilians as a means of cover up and a platform to blame Kenya without any solid evidence apart from using what the defeated warlords were parroting in the media. Surely if these warlords were concerned with the saving of civilian lives they would not have hid within civilian population and start shooting at JL defence force.They would have infact camped outside the city and provoked JL defence force to persue them.But they chose the cawardly act of inginiting a war inside civilian population and using them as a shield.

Can I also remind you that this is a federal govt and not a centralist govt or a dictatorial govt.
The main goal of AMISOM in Somalia is to fight AS not to instal a dictatorial regime.You cant say foreigners should not interfere with Somalia yet want them to assist you fight Somalis.
Rep Kay is there to assist and form an all inclusive govt.Not to assist a dictator to stand on his two feets.Culusow is expendable but the civilians of JL are not.
As for Djibouti they can do nothing.They cannot shift anything in favour of Culusow.The AMISOM force in Somalia are one and you cannot start blamming one while praising others.
For your info who guards the Xamar ports?Isnt it not the AMISOM?Charcoal selling in merka port fetches the govt alot of revenue.While Culusow is concenred with the cleared stock of Charcoal that was piled in the Port Docks.Charcoal has already been banned from Kismaayo and we know who benefitted most wasnt it not HAG and AS?
If Culusow was interested in the minorities of JL he would have appointed them to Key positions in the SFG.But most vacancies have been filled by HAG's and friends.