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Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby Bro » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:36 pm

Mooryaanta habar gidir si fiican ayaa shalay loo karbaashay.shalay 7 nin ayaa laga dilay magaaladiii lagu dagaalamayna waa laga saaray oo biyomaal ayaa gacanta ku haya imika.mooryaanta galgaduud ka timi waa inay deegaanadoodii ku noqdaan oo shabeelada hoose faraha kala baxaan.
Saaka ayaa la yidhi wey sii dhabar jaben. :lol: This will only cause more tension between the three HG residence dagan S/Hose. Alle nabad ha u keeno arintaan mid ayagu u roon ilama aha.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby hargaysaay » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:54 pm

One who wrongs Bites The Dust And The Righteous Shall Always carry The Day with Dignity Void Of celebration For who Wronged Is Non Other Than His Brother .

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:27 pm

After the Biyomaal killed Odeey Guure, an 80+ year old man and his son, they burned the bodies. It was a step too far. The Biiyomal, they were given time to hand over the killers but they escalated their campaign targeting HG living in the area including Odeey Guure who had lived on his farm over 5 decades. When someone is itching for a fight, you have to give them a fight. The HG are reluctant fighters and when they are provoked into defending themselves, they don't stand down until they exact a steep victory.

FYI, Now its merely the two dozen Habar Aaji of the Cayr who were all born in Shabeele Hoose who are fighting.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby SecretAgent » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:32 pm

Da land belongs to Garre , jareers , tuuni , biyomals , hawiyes, reer barawa cad cads , midgans.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby hargaysaay » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:55 pm

After the Biyomaal killed Odeey Guure, an 80+ year old man and his son, they burned the bodies. It was a step too far. The Biiyomal, they were given time to hand over the killers but they escalated their campaign targeting HG living in the area including Odeey Guure who had lived on his farm over 5 decades. When someone is itching for a fight, you have to give them a fight. The HG are reluctant fighters and when they are provoked into defending themselves, they don't stand down until they exact a steep victory.

FYI, Now its merely the two dozen Habar Aaji of the Cayr who were all born in Shabeele Hoose who are fighting.
AbdiWahab this unfortunate incident is triggered by that unlawful killing of an old man as much as young grocery store owner burning himself alive incited the Arab Spring
Point is its more than that and has a lot to do with the 20 year long oppression HG condemned to the people of Marka
you are so eager to find justice for one Family yet you are turning a blind Eye to Indho Cade Crimes against thousands of families how can we take you serious .

Let me ask you one clear question and I dont need you glossing over it , I f HG really belongs to Lower Shabele might you give us an Explanation
as to why The BANANA WARS through out from mid to late 90s ever happened ? .

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:04 pm

Hargeysay,

That old man was a long time resident of the area. He is not Cayr but Sacad. He was a well respected figure who stood up to the Italians, the Marxist regime etc. When the Biiyomal killed him they intentionally wanted to make it a HG issue. Going to kill an old man and is just an escalation that must be met with force. HG honor is at stake as is the survival of every nonpolitical man of HG descent in the area. According to the rules of war among the Somalis, every Biiyomaal in Xamar who lives in HG areas is at risk for retribution.

As for what the Cayr and Biyoomal are fighting over in Marka, its between them and can only be resolved through talks. The use of force will only escalate the violence pushing the sides to extreme positions and the HG are not going anywhere as some HG have been there for many generations. As to the status of Marka, it doesn't belong to one clan but to an assortment of clans some natives, and others transplants. Lets not forget that the Biyomaal were also oppressors of the Bantus, and Tunnis for hundreds of years.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby ElfRuler » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:41 pm

According to the rules of war among the Somalis, every Biiyomaal in Xamar who lives in HG areas is at risk for retribution.
That's some shitty rule.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby SecretAgent » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:51 pm

According to the rules of war among the Somalis, every Biiyomaal in Xamar who lives in HG areas is at risk for retribution.
That's some shitty rule.
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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby Anarchist » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:09 am

@Abdiwahab - What about the countless Biyamaal 80 year olds that were dragged out of their beds and slaughtered? Why is one life more precious than another? Furthermore, what makes you think any clan in Somalia will continue to take humiliation, blatant injustice, thievery and oppression? There is no place for Habargidir in lower Shabelle. Your lands are well known and we see not a single Biyamaal fighting for control of any city in your regions. Countless other clans had to pay dearly to rid themselves of the blatant oppression that comes with being under Habargidir rule, case in point Sheikhaal who fought for over 5 years to rid themselves of the Galgaduud/Mudug scum that had set up camp in their backyard. It's enough that for the last 22 years these people have looted, occupied and oppressed the peoples of lower Shabelle. Everyone has a limit. To read about Ceel Wareego being a battle zone between Cayr and Biyamaal is ridiculous. Ceel Wareego is the capital of Biymaal, this is their Shangrila. Why is Cayr fighting to rule it when they've no place there? This is beyond a skirmish that came about because an 80 year old was killed. This is a clear indication of what happens when people have been pushed to the limit. Stop being a hypocrite. You can't cry Jeberti the encroachers and support the farce that is Habargidir settle in lower Shabelle. They never did and the proof is in what's happening today.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby original dervish » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:51 am

The Biyomaal are doing what the other oppressed clans have done years earlier.
The time for talks and peaceful resolution are over.
In the long run the invaders will be defeated as they have no local support.

ps why hasn`t Hassan Sheikh and his useless Govt intervened? oh I forgot he appointed the invading moryaan the police/army.

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:17 am

This unjust. How are we supposed to take a moral high ground on the Jubaland case when this shit is happening in Lower Shabeelle. HG have to stop picking on the residents of Lower Shabeelle :down:

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby original dervish » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:21 am

Moral high ground? :lol:

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:28 am

Moral high ground? :lol:
Dude, if you try to look at this from a non-biased clan perspective, you will know what I mean. Give it a try, its liberating :stylin:

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby original dervish » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:33 am

J/Land was opposed because of clannism.
The dire situation in Shabelle Hoose has been caused by invading clans with "Govt" backing.

Clean your own house before claiming others are dirty.
ps whats your position on the liberation struggle of the Biyomaal? :D :som: :up:

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Re: Bimaal VS Ciidanka Dowlada

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:24 am

Hey, forget about ideological or clan opposition, direct opposition in Jubaland is coming from the locals there. Nobody outside of Kismayo is firing a gun,

The government is not backing any invading clans. Some FG individuals might be abusing their powers but what goes on there is not sanctioned by the FG collectively. It's freelance militias fro both sides who are doing this.

My position on the Biyamaal liberation struggle? I am a fan of how they bloodied the Italians :D
As for the recent clashes in Lower Shabeelle, I believe it will be resolved with all groups reaching a compromise which is more favorable to the Biyomaal and the other natives.


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