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The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby hydrogen » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:58 am

This guy is legitimately suffering from schizophrenia

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby Sheikh Mustafa » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:50 am

Walaalo,

Hawiye, ISaaq and Darood have different roles in Society.

Hawiye have been chosen by God to protect other Somalis and Somalia. We did that in the ethiopian invasion in 2006, Black Hawk down and during the colonialism.

Isaaq have a role of entertainment and just having fun. They were the most in singing, poetry, dancing and cheerleading.

Darood are somewhat mixed. Some are here to protect the country, some are here to hate and some are here to cheerlead for other nations like ethiopia and kenya.

So you train your kid based on the role that he has in the somali society. IF everyobdy sings and dance, who will protect the country.

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby MrPrestige » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:01 pm

How come the Hawiye kids are mostly very dark in the pictures you posted :lol: . Did you choose the pictures selectively Hawdian? Or randomly.

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby hydrogen » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:07 pm

How come the Hawiye kids are mostly very dark in the pictures you posted :lol: . Did you choose the pictures selectively Hawdian? Or randomly.
Since when did you become an advocate for Hawiye? lol

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby MrPrestige » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:15 pm

No, I am questioning my cousin Hawdian in a civilized manner. Something alien to the Hawiye tribe.

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby AbdiJohnson » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:26 pm

Oh my God. The Bantu infiltration has hit Hargeisa

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby hydrogen » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:26 pm

No, I am questioning my cousin Hawdian in a civilized manner. Something alien to the Hawiye tribe.
Didn't take you long lol

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby BantuAliyonKismayo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:54 pm

Hawiye being disrespected on this forum too much. I used to enjoy it laakin not anymore. The hawiye I knew were people who took no disrespected. They never used to start tribal trouble but only finished them. So for someone to have seen this in real life and to see how they being disrespected on here is just saddening. I feel like sticking up for you but its not my beef.

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby Niya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:00 pm

It this supposed to be funny or is it the usual 'let us put down the others to gain some brownie points'? I must be obtuse cause I fail to see the humour!

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby Bermooda » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:39 pm

Hawiye being disrespected on this forum too much. I used to enjoy it laakin not anymore. The hawiye I knew were people who took no disrespected. They never used to start tribal trouble but only finished them. So for someone to have seen this in real life and to see how they being disrespected on here is just saddening. I feel like sticking up for you but its not my beef.
You know what they say about Cowards and Internet the Perfect Marriage :lol: so let them keep taking their frustration behind closed doors :stylin:
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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby GalliumerianSlayer » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:40 pm

Darood - Those who cheer for foreigners ( Italians, Ethiopians, Kenyan, etc...) & would ditch their Somali Brothers + Whines too much

Hawiye - YOLO mentalitiy

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby Hawdian » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:42 pm

This was a case study. The Hawiye shouldn't react negatively but should instead take my recommendations and see what the guns are doing to the society. They should look at their leaders and see how they are all selfish and think of their own personal gains. Until now Hawiye remains the only one with no autonomous region, no stability and illegally occupies the old capital which is set to be shifted should Hawiye fail Somalia another 5 more years.

Isaaq should not be upset either. It is time they joined the rest of the society and for example played role in the stabilization of the south.

This was an unbiased case study guys and only those who think beyond emotional attachments will see it that way.

Finally Hawiye can diagnose their problem. Isaaq can come out from hiding :)

Myself I am both Isaaq (Garhajis) and Hawiye (HG and Abgaal families).

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby sahal80 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:20 pm

Very superficial analysis!

Firstly, its uncivilazed to display children in a negative way

Secondly, I would like to put it as north vs south because you have other communities who have the same culture in sanaag and sool or puntland

The south has now one culture, the same problem in ceelbuur is found in afmadoow, in gedo, in baydhabo, in baladweyne etc so your clanish argument is baseless and I'm sure if sanaag had the same southren problem togdheer would have adopted the new culture!

The north has tribal customs, had tribal leaders aka garaads, isim... while the south has religious life, had religious leaders aka imams and to this day an islamic political parties are ruling while the north has no political ideology

The somalilanders are defo more orgonized but the cycle that led to this mindset was the fear, like they said tribal wars upgrads unity hence its a defensive unity and if one of them goes to xamar it causes for them big confusion.

unity and war are inter-related.
The Islamic ideal is a society organized to implement Muslim precepts in which no distinction exists between the secular and the religious spheres. Among Somalis this ideal had been approximated less fully in the north than among some groups in the settled regions of the south where religious leaders were at one time an integral part of the social and political structure. Among nomads, the exigencies of pastoral life gave greater weight to the warrior's role, and religious leaders were expected to remain aloof from political matters.
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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby Hawdian » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:38 pm

Sahal,

The photos were public photos and I have not portrayed them as negative. I have highlighted the dangers they posses to the society in the long term.

These toy guns are more available in Mogadishu than Hargeisa and the reason for that is because young and old; Mogadishu has a fascination with gun culture and its time people from the south start realizing this. Look at other kids play and look at those in Mogadishu. These kids are born in battle fields and the last thing you want to give them is guns and idolize the killing culture. Today when he gets this toy gun, they will be mimicking al Shabab vs AMISOM in Lido beach.

This has long term dramatic effect and they are already developing aggressive and violent behaviour.

Instead of seeing this, I have people defending the Mogadishu gun culture and turning blind eye to the problems that start from with children.

If Mogadishu is to stabilize, it needs to create an entirely new gun-free generation and taking the toy guns is a great start.

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Re: The difference between Isaaq, Hawiye and Darod

Postby sahal80 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:12 pm

Sahal,

The photos were public photos and I have not portrayed them as negative. I have highlighted the dangers they posses to the society in the long term.

These toy guns are more available in Mogadishu than Hargeisa and the reason for that is because young and old; Mogadishu has a fascination with gun culture and its time people from the south start realizing this. Look at other kids play and look at those in Mogadishu. These kids are born in battle fields and the last thing you want to give them is guns and idolize the killing culture. Today when he gets this toy gun, they will be mimicking al Shabab vs AMISOM in Lido beach.

This has long term dramatic effect and they are already developing aggressive and violent behaviour.

Instead of seeing this, I have people defending the Mogadishu gun culture and turning blind eye to the problems that start from with children.

If Mogadishu is to stabilize, it needs to create an entirely new gun-free generation and taking the toy guns is a great start.
Look the greater culture!

You posted children disguising their faces right? That is a global phenomenon! some thing is happening now with the syrian children!

You can't compare mogadisho wich is full of global agencies with places like garoowe where the community know eachother...or where each subsubsubclan has its own capital/town...the same thing goes for the rest of the north...an all alone woman is still leading her camel...a very enclosed old societies.

Politicizing the clan is based on khurafaat...read for roger garaudy
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