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Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:53 pm
by samatar133

Buloxubay, whatever rocks your boat sxb

Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:58 pm
by BuuloXubeey

Buloxubay, whatever rocks your boat sxb

Guul iyo gobanimo ayaan kugu sugaya

my boat wants a peaceful, prosperous, dignified Somalia. Not a Somalia where all corners are whispered and dictated to. I want sharaf back to the land of all Somalis from Saylac to Ras Kamboni. Guul for all Somalis

Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:59 pm
by SultanOrder
http://www.somalia-newdeal-conference.e ... ompact.pdf
Here is The Somali Compact, the proposal sent to the EU. In it, it clearly states
"The Somaliland Special Arrangement is a separate and distinct part of the Somali Compact. The Somaliland Special Arrangement is the sole framework for engaging with Somaliland’s development process under the New Deal partnership."
"While the two arrangements were developed through separate processes and will be implemented using separate government systems and mechanisms, their concurrent and mutually reinforcing implementation will help to ensure greater cooperation, trust and goodwill between all Somali people." Page 20.
But it says nowhere in how the funds will be divided. Either way, this is a huge sum amount of money for either governments. I mean SL annual budget is like 150m or something, imagine a portion of this amount of money in a three year period.
I think the way the money is being used is like this, The SFG will say we would like to do this, and the EU will say ok here is X amount of funds, lets see how well you use it and then we will give you more. Same thing with SL. It's not going to work like a piggy bank for either governments, where they can just withdraw it at anytime. At least that is what I think.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:01 pm
by SomaliDefenceCouncil
http://www.somalia-newdeal-conference.e ... ompact.pdf
Here is The Somali Compact, the proposal sent to the EU. In it, it clearly states
"The Somaliland Special Arrangement is a separate and distinct part of the Somali Compact. The Somaliland Special Arrangement is the sole framework for engaging with Somaliland’s development process under the New Deal partnership."
"While the two arrangements were developed through separate processes and will be implemented using separate government systems and mechanisms, their concurrent and mutually reinforcing implementation will help to ensure greater cooperation, trust and goodwill between all Somali people." Page 20.
But it says nowhere in how the funds will be divided. Either way, this is a huge sum amount of money for either governments. I mean SL annual budget is like 150m or something, imagine a portion of this amount of money in a three year period.
I think the way the money is being used is like this, The SFG will say we would like to do this, and the EU will say ok here is X amount of funds, lets see how well you use it and then we will give you more. Same thing with SL. It's not going to work like a piggy bank for either governments, where they can just withdraw it at anytime. At least that is what I think.
The money will be managed only by the Somali state

Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:05 pm
by BuuloXubeey
PO,
It is still not clear how Somaliland will benefit from this New Deal budget. Your sources does not state how the new deal will be shared. And yes the budget will not be in a piggy bank. This budget is just a pledge by countries. It will take time until it even reaches the Federal Government. the original agreement summary is posted by samatar.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:10 pm
by SultanOrder
SDC dude, just think about it, why would the SFG want to manage how aid will be delivered to SL? Their issues are bigger than them, why add more burden to yourself? Let SL figure out what is best for it.
XJ, I know that, and we all know that the lions share is for the SFG, nevertheless, the intent is to help the whole country, and SL is included in that. Things still have to be worked out, mechanisms have to be developed, it's a lot of money, plenty for all of us.
Samatar, we will see if it is in the upcoming talks. But you have to admit, SFG has shown nothing but goodwill and a willingness to compromise everything except recognition. I doubt very much that it is in the SFG's power to divide the shares between SL and SFG, SL would accuse SFG that it has the power to use aid to force it into a union. We just have to wait for more information.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:14 pm
by SomaliDefenceCouncil
SDC dude, just think about it, why would the SFG want to manage how aid will be delivered to SL?
Because the Somali state manages Somaliland

Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:29 pm
by saacJabshee
How much of this will much of this money will ethiopia get out this? I think this a legitimate question. If SL is an independent country why are they in line to get some money from this aid package. There is no kheyr in eu/us aid money. We should know this by now.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:44 pm
by SomaliDefenceCouncil
How much of this will much of this money will ethiopia get out this? I think this a legitimate question. If SL is an independent country why are they in line to get some money from this aid package. There is no kheyr in eu/us aid money. We should know this by now.
Khat addict just go and chew yourself to sleep, leave the politics to us

Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:49 pm
by saacJabshee
Sdc wats ur problem. Either answer the question or keep quite
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:56 pm
by saacJabshee
Tolow why are the pro slanders not answering my question. To me it looks like when it comes to aid sl will happily be under somalia. But not in any other case.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:59 pm
by BuuloXubeey
Tolow why are the pro slanders not answering my question. To me it looks like when it comes to aid sl will happily be under somalia. But not in any other case.
They would rather want Ethiopia to dictate them than their own Somali/muslim brother. Thats how much their cuqdad level has reached.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:52 pm
by Khalid Ali
I dont want any one to dictate on me. But u love xabashi kenyati ugandhees iyo wxi ilahay nacay oo dhan
By the way the yahuud the pope are all closer to me than the faqash ka hadheen 1000 percent
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:53 am
by sahal80
The beginning chapter of the somali politics
According to the world, Somaliland is in soomalia, therefore they will get their share but how? Its part of the cooperation and the talks policies...based on the somali govts positions of seeking unity with somaliland and based on the somalilands separatist position the world doesn't want to violate the talks by insisting that its part of the federal govt instead the conference supports it...thus, they came up with this separate arrangement as somaliland is not part of the federal govt.
However, the funds are for cooperation not for division
Btw silanyo and his expert FM bihi have acted very professional.
Re: The New Deal Provides Special arrangement for Somaliland
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:10 am
by Kabriid

Buloxubay, whatever rocks your boat sxb

Guul iyo gobanimo ayaan kugu sugaya

my boat wants a peaceful, prosperous, dignified Somalia. Not a Somalia where all corners are whispered and dictated to. I want sharaf back to the land of all Somalis from Saylac to Ras Kamboni. Guul for all Somalis

If you only knew... Reer Seylac are pro Somaliland and they would rather have their region Selel join Djibouti than Somalia. Cid ku rabtaa ma jirtee dabada dhulka dhig
