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president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW center

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:35 am

Problem solved
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The map is small, here is an enlarged version and yes I agree...problem solved :up:

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby sahal80 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:58 am

Problem solved
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The map is small, here is an enlarged version and yes I agree...problem solved :up:

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Lol it doesn't work, hiiraan has to join some where.

Alto and baso jubba dont work too, middle jubba is a big problem unless it has its own separate local admin...this is why the federalim in that region was postponed until....

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby Murax » Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:58 am

0% chance of six gobol state. The state would most likely consist of bay/bakool and the only gobol I can possibly even imagine joining that state would be sh hoose but that is highly unlikely, let alone 6 gobols.
Its based on their will not yours!

It states bay&bakool to merge with a larger administration!!

He excluded lower shabeele!

My think is they will get recognized formally too until..

Having seen how some guys supposedly from the same administration have attended the brusseles conference separetely while al shabaab controls the biggest part it doesn't show any thing.
the Speaker and the elders from Bay and Bakool regions are meeting in Baidoa to promote reconciliation, discuss plans for a merger that would potentially lead to another regional administration. We welcome these local initiatives, and we urge those leaders to approach this initiative in a spirit of reconciliation, compromise

Do you have any example on what 'larger' administration they woulds join? Maamulka Jubba is not a possibility anymore as it is absoluty clear now gedo and the jubbas are linked and L Shabelle will go the direction of M Shabelle. Again Bay/Bakool fits the two gobol requirement that will have to do for them

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby sahal80 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:43 am

0% chance of six gobol state. The state would most likely consist of bay/bakool and the only gobol I can possibly even imagine joining that state would be sh hoose but that is highly unlikely, let alone 6 gobols.
Its based on their will not yours!

It states bay&bakool to merge with a larger administration!!

He excluded lower shabeele!

My think is they will get recognized formally too until..

Having seen how some guys supposedly from the same administration have attended the brusseles conference separetely while al shabaab controls the biggest part it doesn't show any thing.
the Speaker and the elders from Bay and Bakool regions are meeting in Baidoa to promote reconciliation, discuss plans for a merger that would potentially lead to another regional administration. We welcome these local initiatives, and we urge those leaders to approach this initiative in a spirit of reconciliation, compromise

Do you have any example on what 'larger' administration they woulds join? Maamulka Jubba is not a possibility anymore as it is absoluty clear now gedo and the jubbas are linked and L Shabelle will go the direction of M Shabelle. Again Bay/Bakool fits the two gobol requirement that will have to do for them
no. because the agreement was only with one side so it doesnt state a federal state!
i told you before this and you didnt believe when i said nothing states that the agreement was with a federal state......them D&m have been told to waite too but they dont wanna waite so the same clans will be in this new administration!

if you dont believe in my clues watch the video in my thread the president in washington and compare it with my old thread that dates back in jul.


see hiiraan the D&M statement it doesnt recognize the new jubba and jawari is also supporting them-hiiraan-

the president has let this for the speaker tactically!!

get ready for the contara attack

im out.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby GIJaamac » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:59 am

Gret news. :blessed:

Thanks Sahal. But can you explain why the president exluded SH/hoose ? You do know that D&M have atleast 5 times bigger population there than in J/hoose ?

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby xaliye123 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:03 am

Iska Hadloow Ina igare.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby Individual » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:07 am

Gret news. :blessed:

Thanks Sahal. But can you explain why the president exluded SH/hoose ? You do know that D&M have atleast 5 times bigger population there than in J/hoose ?
President Hassan excluded S/hoose and S/dhexe because of the reason of joining the two Shabeele to create a federal state that will act as a fortress for Xamar (Capital and where the FGS government lies).

In short answer, Xamar is a Citadel and S/hoose and S/dhexe is its fortress!,.... all this has a reason!

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby GIJaamac » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:15 am

Gret news. :blessed:

Thanks Sahal. But can you explain why the president exluded SH/hoose ? You do know that D&M have atleast 5 times bigger population there than in J/hoose ?
President Hassan excluded S/hoose and S/dhexe because of the reason of joining the two Shabeele to create a federal state that will act as a fortress for Xamar (Capital and where the FGS government lies).

In short answer, Xamar is a Citadel and S/hoose and S/dhexe is its fortress!,.... all this has a reason!
my jeberti friend,in your other thread, it says Jawaari has accepted the building of 6 province state which includes SH/hoose. Salaada xagee iska qaban la´dahay ?

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby Individual » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:23 am

Brother this is politics, Jawaari said all Six Gobol for the reason of not sounding biased towards Hawiye and also to bring Madobe to the negotiating table, and once they do bring him to table and start the process of building a federal state they will by then drop or exclude S/hoose for a political reason from the 6 Gobol unification for Federal state!

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby xaliye123 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:25 am

Just talk no action.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby sahal80 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:38 pm

Gret news. :blessed:

Thanks Sahal. But can you explain why the president exluded SH/hoose ? You do know that D&M have atleast 5 times bigger population there than in J/hoose ?
President Hassan excluded S/hoose and S/dhexe because of the reason of joining the two Shabeele to create a federal state that will act as a fortress for Xamar (Capital and where the FGS government lies).

In short answer, Xamar is a Citadel and S/hoose and S/dhexe is its fortress!,.... all this has a reason!
Well-explained!

Notice how he put lower shabeele in a different cultural categories like middle shabeele, hiiraan, galgaduud and mudug!


This statement has a secret dalalaat siyasiya/political indications!

Lower shabeele will have its digil local governor but will be part of banaadir and middle shabeele

In an interesting interview the engineer says: he can't take somalia into a strong state level and there won't be big changes as year has already gone but he will construct the new somalias foundations like a country who has laws/shurooc, elections, political parts, good institutions...

He has this historical vision both in the south and north and want to implement it in his era.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby anzeloti » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:00 pm

Kacdoonka DM :lol:


I am 100% sure Hassan Sheikh is behind this new 6 gobol maamul.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby Leopard2 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:09 pm

Kacdoonka DM :lol:


I am 100% sure Hassan Sheikh is behind this new 6 gobol maamul.
I do not support them taking sh hoose with them.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby GIJaamac » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:13 pm

sahal

Sxbow warkaada si fiican u qeex. Waxaad tiri madaxweynaha ayaa taageray inuu 5 gobol ka koobnaado Koonfur Galbeed.
At the same time Jawaari has offcially accepted the plans of 6 province state instead of 5 .
Explain.

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Re: president supports D&M initiative in his speech at WW ce

Postby sahal80 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:31 pm

sahal

Sxbow warkaada si fiican u qeex. Waxaad tiri madaxweynaha ayaa taageray inuu 5 gobol ka koobnaado Koonfur Galbeed.
At the same time Jawaari has offcially accepted the plans of 6 province state instead of 5 .
Explain.
NO. He is just supporting their initiative as a political card but has his own plans for the two shabeele with banaadir located between them.

In other words he doesn't mind to compromise with them in lower shabeele as long the same goes for all regions!


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