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Somali elders and early historians.. and yes i used your Picture.

the grave is from somali elders.

I believe that most Somalis came from north accept the May speaking Somalis. I think they're indigenous to the south but adigu you can't mix DNA and oral history to prove your point.


I actually went past his grave, waan u duceeyey odayga, he was a Somalilander after all

Somali elders and early historians.. and yes i used your Picture.

the grave is from somali elders.

I believe that most Somalis came from north accept the May speaking Somalis. I think they're indigenous to the south but adigu you can't mix DNA and oral history to prove your point.


I actually went past his grave, waan u duceeyey odayga, he was a Somalilander after all

Inform me Sxiib. about the grave and WHO visit the grave?


The May speakers are mixed of all kind of nations and people. There is even persian tribes within them. you have Ashaaraf exam--> jawaari, Geledi arab from Abbasid, you have lost oromo etc etc. you have even yibir or Isaaq outcast tribes + daroods + hawiyes + dirs.. thats why they are Called Raxanweyn. something that came together and big.

but there is few of them WHO still are sab and he is also from the North WHO migrated before bal'ad and co and they were defeated by Oromo.

Who won the fight?

Beesha Maxamed Amaareer Hopefully the fighting will stop between these neighbours.

Inform me Sxiib. about the grave and WHO visit the grave?


The May speakers are mixed of all kind of nations and people. There is even persian tribes within them. you have Ashaaraf exam--> jawaari, Geledi arab from Abbasid, you have lost oromo etc etc. you have even yibir or Isaaq outcast tribes + daroods + hawiyes + dirs.. thats why they are Called Raxanweyn. something that came together and big.

but there is few of them WHO still are sab and he is also from the North WHO migrated before bal'ad and co and they were defeated by Oromo.

I was just joking sxb. I stopped at that town to get koob shaah ah with caano geel before I continued my journey to Hargeisa.


Who the fuck is bal'cad? How can you prove there was a migration from Berbera, that's sheeko maqaaxi. Most Somalis moved from north to south but it was way back and you can't point out a specific place as their starting point.

Casanova has some truth in his statements...My ancestry lies in Ethiopia which i know is certain. My subclan seperated from the main group who were near Harar about 400 years ago...when the Ajuraan were defeated we came to Ceelbuur, all the wells and stone houses in central Somalia they built are still standing till this day i heard. then about a century before colonial acquisition we settled in Banaadir and Sh/hoose. My great grandad is buried in Quds (Sh/hoose village) but his father is buried in Warsheekh. That shows the pattern of southern migration and i believe the same incidence occured with most clans.

No one is denying ancient migrations but Casanova is mixing oral history & DNA and that shit don't mix. He's also creating his own theories, saying shit like "Somalis and the (disgusting) Agaw share ancestry, which is absurd and quite disturbing to be honest.

Nevertheless Somalis have always been moving from place to place, when Emir Sharmaarke Cali Saalax conquered Seylac from the Arabs and Turks, the first Somali in history to do so and the first Somali to have the city under Somali rule. One of his friends who was also the Judge/Qadi of that city was a Hawiye man.

Casanova needs to come up with facts and not waxuu isagu isku dhobdhoobey.

No one is denying ancient migrations but Casanova is mixing oral history & DNA and that shit don't mix. He's also creating his own theories, saying shit like "Somalis and the (disgusting) Agaw share ancestry, which is absurd and quite disturbing to be honest.

Nevertheless Somalis have always been moving from place to place, when Emir Sharmaarke Cali Saalax conquered Seylac from the Arabs and Turks, the first Somali in history to do so and the first Somali to have the city under Somali rule. One of his friends who was also the Judge/Qadi of that city was a Hawiye man.

Casanova needs to come up with facts and not waxuu isagu isku dhobdhoobey.

I can come with my sources no problem.

Saint Bal'ad's migration is recorded and well known.

The agaw thing was just a theory.

No one is denying ancient migrations but Casanova is mixing oral history & DNA and that shit don't mix. He's also creating his own theories, saying shit like "Somalis and the (disgusting) Agaw share ancestry, which is absurd and quite disturbing to be honest.

Nevertheless Somalis have always been moving from place to place, when Emir Sharmaarke Cali Saalax conquered Seylac from the Arabs and Turks, the first Somali in history to do so and the first Somali to have the city under Somali rule. One of his friends who was also the Judge/Qadi of that city was a Hawiye man.

Casanova needs to come up with facts and not waxuu isagu isku dhobdhoobey.

I can come with my sources no problem.

Saint Bal'ad's migration is recorded and well known.

The agaw thing was just a theory.

Show us then..

No one is denying ancient migrations but Casanova is mixing oral history & DNA and that shit don't mix. He's also creating his own theories, saying shit like "Somalis and the (disgusting) Agaw share ancestry, which is absurd and quite disturbing to be honest.

Nevertheless Somalis have always been moving from place to place, when Emir Sharmaarke Cali Saalax conquered Seylac from the Arabs and Turks, the first Somali in history to do so and the first Somali to have the city under Somali rule. One of his friends who was also the Judge/Qadi of that city was a Hawiye man.

Casanova needs to come up with facts and not waxuu isagu isku dhobdhoobey.

I can come with my sources no problem.

Saint Bal'ad's migration is recorded and well known.

The agaw thing was just a theory.

Show us then..

I think its written by Yaquut al hamawi between 1197-1228.. its also well known fact, but i can not find it on the internet. but you can Watch Abdi good video in the history thread a made. in the begining he speaks about IT aswell.

I will find the book for your insha-allah later and PM..

I think its written by Yaquut al hamawi between 1197-1228.. its also well known fact, but i can not find it on the internet. but you can Watch Abdi good video in the history thread a made. in the begining he speaks about IT aswell.

I will find the book for your insha-allah later and PM..

I'm also reading about a arab Explorer named Yaquut al Hamawi WHO have been in Mogadishu 1200 Century.

I can feed you with more informations but i'm afraid you Guys are not ready for it just yet.

I think its written by Yaquut al hamawi between 1197-1228.. its also well known fact, but i can not find it on the internet. but you can Watch Abdi good video in the history thread a made. in the begining he speaks about IT aswell.

I will find the book for your insha-allah later and PM..

I'm also reading about a arab Explorer named Yaquut al Hamawi WHO have been in Mogadishu 1200 Century.

I can feed you with more informations but i'm afraid you Guys are not ready for it just yet.

The man have written many books. I have found one about only Mogadishu and the Berber race..

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Dis thread is misleadin u can't compare sacad to reer wagardhac its sacad vs sade or sub clans of sacad n sade