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deconstruction of the regime begins

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deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby sahal80 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:22 pm

For dam jadid, the addis agreement has turned out to be a curse

To avoid kenya, the long enclosed regime has adopted a policy of special relationship with ethiopia, during the process, the ethiopians were able to infiltrate the regime after they spread their positions to them!

Now ethiopia has linked the pm with the speaker

In a meeting between the three leaders in the house of the speaker, the speaker has pointed out the role of the state minister!!


Now the pm is accusing the state minister of undermining him and therefore he is not adding him in his list of cabinets!!

He also doesn't want to add the current FM to his list(she has constant problems with his wife who introduced her to them)

The pms position from the state minister has splitted dam jadid into a group who calling for his removal and others who are accepting it

There was an agreement between the two top leaders-the interior and state minister- that the state minister controls the foreing relations while the interior controls the somali file

Apparently the state minister has done his job and was helping this in his interior job like the kismayo file so he dislikes him, for this reason he supports to oust him but he doesn't understand that ethiopia will target him next!

The president has two choices now: to accept the pms new conditions or to keep the momentum going on with a new direction

internationally, they will welcome the ousting of farah abdulqadir because they don't like the nationalists and free-minded people and indeed its one of the reasons why the army hasn't changed in the last year because of them suspending the army contracts with IGAD for fear of these countries influence.

Farah abdulqadir was the man who received the egyptian generals back in the days, since then he has been visiting addis and one of the results of these meetings was the addis agreement.

The question is can the regime survive without farah abdulqadir or will get down to surrender as ethiopia is trying to get them so?


I don't think they can I guess hassan sheekh will end up as a subclanist.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:33 pm

Sxb, who is this Minister Ciilmooge? I mean clan wise.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby sahal80 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:44 pm

Sxb, who is this Minister Ciilmooge? I mean clan wise.
A close relative of ahmed madobe and the ex raas kamboni representative for qorbo joogta.

Thanks imam.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby Bermooda » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:09 pm

I don't think they can I guess hassan sheekh will end up as a subclanist.
He already is but Sahal why you worried Hassan Sheikh is more Hawadle than an Abgaal even brought the whole Djibouti contingency to Hiiraan and kept the Bantu away just to show the level of his loyalty.

Heck i don't even think he really cares about Mudulood reason his government really is a HG controlled 1.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby sahal80 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:45 pm

I don't think they can I guess hassan sheekh will end up as a subclanist.
He already is but Sahal why you worried Hassan Sheikh is more Hawadle than an Abgaal even brought the whole Djibouti contingency to Hiiraan and kept the Bantu away just to show the level of his loyalty.

Heck i don't even think he really cares about Mudulood reason his government really is a HG controlled 1.
Lol this is a baseless accusation. djibouti/hiil pre-dates him, infact in his first vist to baladweyne when he was just a weeks in the office they welcomed him in there!

It was the AU who decided to send a new amisom to south central and south west regions to replace ethiopia, I even made a thread about that initiative so I know what I'm talking about. The ex govt and djibouti have decided to operate in hiiraan. This amisom is called section4.

Hassan sheekh represents his subclan and I think at the end of the day he may adopt their political traditions because now the party who brought him to the power is losing its grip on the political situation inside the govt.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby Even123 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:50 pm

Thanks Sahal,

So Sahal, what your saying is that PM and Speaker are so very much against the Madobe Addis Agreement that they are willing to partner with Ethiopia while throwing State Minister Farah under the bus for signing the agreement with Madobe!!,.....


So Sahal what does PM and speaker want???,... Do they want to remove Madobe's adis agreement and then create a 6 gobol region which includes Jubooyinka!

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:34 pm

Thanks Sahal
As for the RasKenyaatta.
The Govt shouldnt have made peace with them.
Ahmed Madoobe the imposter is enemy of Somalia :down:

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby sahal80 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:46 pm

Thanks Sahal,

So Sahal, what your saying is that PM and Speaker are so very much against the Madobe Addis Agreement that they are willing to partner with Ethiopia while throwing State Minister Farah under the bus for signing the agreement with Madobe!!,.....


So Sahal what does PM and speaker want???,... Do they want to remove Madobe's adis agreement and then create a 6 gobol region which includes Jubooyinka!
Get the big picture!

What you said is just like they say: el qasha alaty qasamat zahr el bacir/the straw that broke the camels back

Some had enough before but were helpless

The ethiopian agenda was to infiltrate the regime by finding out what's their secret positions and they succeeded creating a division among them.

On another hand they have a hadden hand in the speakers bases and now other ethiopian backed powers are joining the bloc

Officially, ethiopia appears as a helping hand but they want to finally control the govt and these southren regions

Farah abdulqadir was playing his cards well by trying to avoid their infiltration into the decision making unit and using them instead of kenya but while they were away the speaker and the pm had some connection.

Still things can be saved but the pm won't accept the old conditions, this is againist of their agreement with saacid, its wrong and they should havefixed it before but now its too late because he has fixed himself and has his own contacts.

If they oust farah abdulqadir they will be able to change these strategies: changing amisom, ethiopia into a UN initiative, cooperation with qatar, egypt, turkey, saudi arabia will stop, coherent national army free from igad training and influence will stop...etc.

Let us stop it there.

Wassalam.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby oxymoron » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:46 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby Murax » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:57 pm

Saacid playing the game of thrones, making moves like a boss :ohhh:


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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby AbtiiDoon » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:28 pm

Xasan sheikh is a sub sub clanist wax kale iska dhaaf. I spoke to some relatives in xamar shalay. Abahiis wasaha is taking his Cali Gaaf people to the top and at the same time bending over for HG.

f-king disgrace.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby sahal80 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:44 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I hope you will support the new saacid as he is now a NO man or that was just an excuse :?

He said today him, hassan sheekh and jawari will finish at one time!!

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby EEGA9 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:00 pm

Ethiopia is making a quick comeback in Somali Politics not that they left but as International forces reignited interest in Somalia, the playground became a little crowded for them. The whole Addis agreement and its current political maneuverings is indeed apart of its agenda to continue to influence Somalia and to mold a future "weak and dependent' Somalia, a non-threatening Somalia.We seem docile and feeble when faced with Ethiopia sometimes you just have to cringe at the sight of this relationship.The current Government doesn't need to be as submissive as previous governments.

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby SomaliDefenceCouncil » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:04 pm

Ethiopia is making a quick comeback in Somali Politics not that they left but as International forces reignited interest in Somalia, the playground became a little crowded for them. The whole Addis agreement and its current political maneuverings is indeed apart of its agenda to continue to influence Somalia and to mold a future "weak and dependent' Somalia, a non-threatening Somalia.We seem docile and feeble when faced with Ethiopia sometimes you just have to cringe at the sight of this relationship.The current Government doesn't need to be as submissive as previous governments.
Somalia and Ethiopia are brotherly nations, both nations face the same threats from terrorist ONLF. :stylin:

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Re: deconstruction of the regime begins

Postby sahal80 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:07 pm

Ethiopia is making a quick comeback in Somali Politics not that they left but as International forces reignited interest in Somalia, the playground became a little crowded for them. The whole Addis agreement and its current political maneuverings is indeed apart of its agenda to continue to influence Somalia and to mold a future "weak and dependent' Somalia, a non-threatening Somalia.We seem docile and feeble when faced with Ethiopia sometimes you just have to cringe at the sight of this relationship.The current Government doesn't need to be as submissive as previous governments.
Exactly!

If jubbaland and the federal govt sorted it out between themselves they could have avoided this infiltration.


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