reforming the army will take years to come

[sahal80]

The biggest problem of this govt is reforming the army, to reach this it needs a national vision

The somali army is totally incoherent from galkacyo to kismayo except in hiiraan, middle shabeele, banaadir, gedo though doolow district sounds having a local order that is free from the gedo admin if my info are correct

Also gedo needs to unify the command and establish a military court in there. few days ago there was a confrontation between ahlussuna and SNA forces in balad xaawo

Bay and bakool had no funds and arms but has received some funds and cars last week

Banaadir army has a multi-backgrounds but is getting to be under a central control

On the bottom

You have galmudug, himanheeb, ahlusunna armies, two of them are confronting at hobyo

Worest are jubooyinka and lower shabeele

This army is supposedly official and is pure biimaal in a dhoollatus attended by the local people in nuber 50 lower shabeele last week! You get the message!!

[EEGA9]

The only issue with the army in Jubboyinka( SNA/RSK) is they are managed by maamulka Jubba but they have had training under the siyeelow program through Kenya and have some structure.the Somali army is still very fractured and factional, so Puntland or Maamulka Jubba will take time to integrate their forces into the army which will have to be done legally under the constitution.

[oxymoron]

The only issue with the army in Jubboyinka( SNA/RSK) is they are managed by maamulka Jubba but they have had training under the siyeelow program through Kenya and have some structure.the Somali army is still very fractured and factional, so Puntland or Maamulka Jubba will take time to integrate their forces into the army which will have to be done legally under the constitution.

Puntland ain't integrating Shit, at least not until the whole constitution is followed.

[sahal80]

Puntland region has one professional army they also agreed to integrate with the SNA in the agreement with the pm

At the moment all the plans have been stopped


Jubba has three armies, raaskamboni, SNA who is loyal to the administration and gedo forces. Even the addis agreement states to unite them under one command.

[oxymoron]

Puntland region has one professional army they also agreed to integrate with the SNA in the agreement with the pm

At the moment all the plans have been stopped


Jubba has three armies, raaskamboni, SNA who is loyal to the administration and gedo forces. Even the addis agreement states to unite them under one command.

Tell your Mooryaan cousins to read and follow what's written in the agreed upon Somali Constitution they signed and swore to uphold first and foremost.

Until than, we share nothing but bullets in the head with Mooryaan INC.

[sahal80]

I know you have professional army

I think the govt needs the far puntland region as part of the country where they can't reach...

I have read a lot from all sides about the constitution issue and nothing has been changed under hassan sheekh I can even post for you mps from puntland stating this let alone the rest

In my analysis the issue is political

This govt has reduced the puntland political roles strating from the PM position, national conferences and reconciliations mostly the jubba affaires besides the international conferences on somalia and puntland foreing relations.

There is a theory that says this govt is permanent and not transitional and that is why the political clashes with puntland

The real reasons of reaching agreement with jubba was to reduce puntlands political influence, this is why ahmed madobe has stolen the xamar conference initiative from the PM

Now dam jadid are after puntland itself and is trying to influence on its elections also faroole is playing his xamar card to get re-elected so cooperation is not good for him at the moment.

[quark]

oxy, sahal waa nin odaay and not one of these silly troll

mudane sahal, we have police forces and not an army they will remain under farooles control

[quark]

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[sahal80]

oxy, sahal waa nin odaay and not one of these silly troll

mudane sahal, we have police forces and not an army they will remain under farooles control

Thanks for what you thought of me, I do analysis on somali politics.

I know the puntland army is called darawish wich can be both. During barre time daraawiish were invanted to operate more in the country side and stop the clan-fightings around the wells or the farmes...etc

Yours are professional army because it was trained under foreing security companies.

You need navy.

[EEGA9]

Puntland region has one professional army they also agreed to integrate with the SNA in the agreement with the pm

At the moment all the plans have been stopped


Jubba has three armies, raaskamboni, SNA who is loyal to the administration and gedo forces. Even the addis agreement states to unite them under one command.

Jubba-Kismaayo has one army now which is the SNA( Siyeelow group( Prof Gandis program) under General Saxardiid) and RSK( Under Madoobe)- Saxardiid takes orders from Madoobe and they have united the forces under one command.

Jubba-Gedo has Ahlu Sunnah and the SNA, SOME SNA in Gedo are now loosely aligning with Maamulka Jubba wheras Ahlu Sunnah has withdrawn from Mamulka Jubba.

Outside of this you have militias with Barre in Goobweyn who will surrender soon and join maamulka Jubba.

[quark]

oxy, sahal waa nin odaay and not one of these silly troll

mudane sahal, we have police forces and not an army they will remain under farooles control

Thanks for what you thought of me, I do analysis on somali politics.

keep it up, you do it without bias

[AbdiWahab252]

All b.tch arse niccas compared to AS who will eat them all for lunch. Its sad but true that all of them need Ajanabi support Xabashi or AMISOM to survive.

[sahal80]

All b.tch arse niccas compared to AS who will eat them all for lunch. Its sad but true that all of them need Ajanabi support Xabashi or AMISOM to survive.

Why al shabaab is not eating himanheeb? Are they allied bc of ahlussunna?

I asked you before what do you know of galmudug police getting trained in kenya? Lastly since your a security advisor why HG armies are not able to have one command?

Quark

Thank you my friend

[AbdiWahab252]

Ximan Xeeb = AS that is why.

The only group that is 100% against AS is Galmudug.

[sahal80]

Ximan Xeeb = AS that is why.

The only group that is 100% against AS is Galmudug.

I see. heard their is a business between himanheeb and alshabaab not just political relationship

Galmudug should thank its himanheeb wall, only ahlussunna fights with them.