Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Somalia

[FarhanYare]

lakiin its something i've noticed: isaaq hate both opposition clans, but they strongly despise hawiye over darood, since they believe xamar is obstacle to them gaining recognition.

[Marques]

Abdikarim The term "abti" is broad. It can just mean immediate relatives, yes I discuss politics with immediate relatives
and never had a problem.

Don't let Marques fool you, Leelkase and Hawiye despise each other.



There also has been a savage feud between the Leelkase and Omar Mahamuud on the one hand and the Hawiye Sa'ad clans
on the other, again with government hand and complicity. In Mudug, the Hawiye are grumbling in their quiet but sullen unhappiness.





Horn of Africa
1990

Isaaq difaacaayo Darood oo Hawiye kasoo horjeeda adaa ugu horreeyo.. The article you posted means nothing. The same clans have been bickering and fighting for centuries and will continue to do so if they don't evolve quick enough. Are you forgetting it was an Cumar Maxamuud leader (Morgan) who oversaw your towns being bombarded and it was a Sacad man (Caydiid) who teamed up with adeerkaa Tuur to end that regime? You got yourself mixed up sxb. At the very least you should be like the others and not side with anyone laakin my oh my, what have you become..

[DonCorleone]

war kadaa!! Why the fuck do u have to burst their bubbles. Leave them alone. Only Marehan can insult them forget about other Daaroods. They are our bitches, and I dont like u smartening up my bitches. Bloody hell!!

See you notice that it's constructive criticism but the average Isaaq will take offense to that and get worked up.

[BuuloXubeey]

Don corleone, loooooool!! War khalaas keep it quite.

As the rightful owner of beesha iidoor akshio I call upon all wanlaweyne to end this thread. I think my bitches had enough karbaash. Waa iin loo naxriista mar mar. So lets all end this topic.

[abdikarim86]

Abdikarim Who is bragging here? I am just saying it like it is. Do you want me to lie and say they are the same as the moryaans
and love to loot, rape and loot more? Well that is not accurate. My stance is political nothing to do with clans, the moryaans
made so many political blunders and destroyed south Somalia further and still have the nerve to want a "union" with Somaliland.

At the end of the day they're both the same shit just different toilets as far
as we are concerned ....You sound faqash-like when you make these statements

[MrPrestige]

How did I side with anyone in that post? I posted it like it was written. Those clans despise each other. So don't make it seem like
the moryaans and the LL are one happy family when I know all the dirty laundry in Mudug . Actually Morgan is another sub clan,
but that is beside the point. There was some Isaaq guys like Col Tanzania and Dhagaweyne etc who also did damage to the Majerteens.
Hawiye on the other hand were involved in a war that didn't concern them 1981- 1988 as a footsoldiers, so yes I will whip the
slave the hardest first. On another hand today it is your people that are obsessed with a "union" with Somaliland, I am telling
you we're not interested in a fake stuff called Irir. We are just Somaliland a stand alone people.

[DonCorleone]

How did I side with anyone in that post? I posted it like it was written. Those clans despise each other. So don't make it seem like
the moryaans and the LL are one happy family when I know all the dirty laundry in Mudug . Actually Morgan is another sub clan,
but that is beside the point. There was some Isaaq guys like Col Tanzania and Dhagaweyne etc who also did damage to the Majerteens.
Hawiye on the other hand were involved in a war that didn't concern them 1981- 1988 as a footsoldiers, so yes I will whip the
slave the hardest first.

[Khalid Ali]

lakiin its something i've noticed: isaaq hate both opposition clans, but they strongly despise hawiye over darood, since they believe xamar is obstacle to them gaining recognition.

Not true the vast majority of isaaq especially the elites in hargeisa , will always side with a hawiye over a darood if it came to it, people who take Snet to serious now there is a thing in the larger scheme of the situation between Somalia and its political dispute with Somaliland. The generation after 1991 makes no distinction between hawiye or darood, the elites do on some occasions. But when it involves Somaliland to make sense of it all , the elites in Somaliland just as it fits the picture will say our enemies are the walanweyns those whom we have united with in 1960 those who attacked us in 1988 all the same there is no difference u see saacid and his hawiye ministers praying at maxamamad afweynes grave they honer him see the walanweyn ministers at his grave , and its fits the picture when they see koonfurians talking about how great the cancerous union. The youth will just say well fair enough they love the cancerous union, just like maxmamad afweyne did there is no difference. The next generation is something else

[MrPrestige]

Abdikarim Who is bragging here? I am just saying it like it is. Do you want me to lie and say
they are the same as the moryaans and love to loot, rape and loot more? Well that is not accurate. My stance is political nothing to do
with clans, the moryaans made so many political blunders and destroyed south Somalia further and still have the nerve to want a "union"
with Somaliland.

At the end of the day they're both the same shit just different toilets as far
as we are concerned ....You sound faqash-like when you make these statements

Faqash implies one who is a supporter of the former ousted governmenet of Somalia led by Siad Bare. Many Hawiye are "Faqash" by
that definition.

[Marques]

How did I side with anyone in that post? I posted it like it was written. Those clans despise each other. So don't make it seem like
the moryaans and the LL are one happy family when I know all the dirty laundry in Mudug . Actually Morgan is another sub clan,
but that is beside the point. There was some Isaaq guys like Col Tanzania and Dhagaweyne etc who also did damage to the Majerteens.
Hawiye on the other hand were involved in a war that didn't concern them 1981- 1988 as a footsoldiers, so yes I will whip the
slave the hardest first. On another hand today it is your people that are obsessed with a "union" with Somaliland, I am telling
you we're not interested in a fake stuff called Irir. We are just Somaliland a stand alone people.

Where on earth, did you get that beesha Hawiye as a clan, endorsed what happened in the late eighties? Forget Hawiyes, there were Isaaq soldiers, aircraft members and Isaaq politicians in Barre's circle during the siege on Hargeisa. Let me guess, they're slaves too?

"My people" obsessed with Somaliland? As we speak there are Puntland militia drawing blood in your jurisdiction to keep people you politically class as Somalilanders in the fold of Somalia, but hey, let's ignore that travesty and look towards Hassan Sheikh and claim him and his tribe hate Isaaq because they didn't throw independence in your faces?

[MrPrestige]

Kid you should learn history there was thousands of your people as soldiers in Somaliland fighting the SNM. A large part of the
bombers were Wanlaweyns from Barawaani, donk herder Cungaals, Hawaadle etc you name it. So don't tell me your moryaan people
weren't involved in it, you came as a slave and you were defeated in Somaliland along with your master. Taleex is a local issue it has
to be sorted out first like Las Anod, step by step nothing is done overnight.

[OjOO]

waad iska hadleysaa you bastard iidoor.

The truth hurts eh...Hutu? Lashing out?
I'd be angry too if I had Afrikan fluids deposited on me

Learn your facking place bantuyahow

Look at how determined you are to insult Warsheikh even though he joined this thread to defend himself from the likes you when you were in exchange with BuuloXubeey.

All your insults are inspired by the Darood "learn your place" "moryaan" "bantu", you're not even original, who can take you seriously when the same people you are attempting to insult are the ones who toppled the regime and saved your ass from being whooped even more. The fact that your insults are inspired by Darood paralyses you from insulting them since you have no material to insult them with as you try your hardest to emulate them. Look at MrPrestige, he is utterly perplexed by BuuloXubeey and doesn't know how to retaliate. It's extremely discomforting to watch, and I get the feeling you sculpt your aggression towards Hawiye in a way that makes you appear "superior" but all I can see is someone trying to be Darood and who is unoriginal in the process.

To me Isaaqs are all the same, they are not angry, or strong, or worthy but rather a desperate group of people who are cultured badly. How can I take someone seriously who doesn't even know how to insult or how to defend himself but rather masquerades himself in pretenses such as "GENERAL_SNM" when we all know and are aware of the fact that the last thing Isaaqs are capable of being are generals since that requires dignity. I've looked at old threads of General SNM and I was not surprised at all, he was pro-union and passive despite the name which suggests otherwise. You can try to distort history as much as you like but your clan will never be respected or feared. I've seen you folk here joining in the Hawiye bashing that Daroods do as if to feel equal to them—look no further than "Enemy_of_mad_mullah" who used to spend his time trying to befriend them by constantly making Hawiye jokes and insults. I thought he was Darood at first, but he turned out to be Isaaq. The entire nature of your existence is pathetic and the worst thing about is that you think you look good, the delusion of group blurs your reality and you think that all of you rallying together and saying "The lions of SNM" actually makes them lions? If they or you were lions, the Daroods would not be apathetic to you. What you are really is a non-factor and irrelevant. The reason you have to stay in Somalia, is because the entire north is not going to be sliced away by people of your calibre, it's simply insulting. You are supposed to be a part of society since the fabric extends to people of all backgrounds and that fact that you are trying to get away like a freed slave is testament to your worth.

You know for a fact that if you rejoin the union and get whooped again the USC will not be there to free you this time and that's what you dread the most. If the SNM was shit you wouldn't be scared to rejoin. Nobody gives a shit about Somaliland or Isaaqs but the north will stay by the course of nature. I don't care if it stays or not but I'm just analysing reality. I could write a lot more about you all individually because you reek from inferiority complexes and it's not a good look at all. The only thing you're doing is making Isaaq look like a piece of dog shit.

Don,

You killing mee LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLlll


This will make them run to mum Oromiaaaaaaaaaaaa

[NewHargeisaGirl]

Ducaysane
I admire you for not insulting your abtiyaal but please Hawiye iskana dhaaf !

[abdikarim86]

Lool at Isaaq soldiers in Siyaads Barre army.
I don't remember the source. But at the beginning of
the 80s a 2/3 of the troops stationed in the North were non-Northern.

By the late 80s when Konfuuristaanis were bombing our cities
and levelling to the ground, that proportion plummeted to a negligible percentage.

[abdikarim86]

Abdikarim Who is bragging here? I am just saying it like it is. Do you want me to lie and say
they are the same as the moryaans and love to loot, rape and loot more? Well that is not accurate. My stance is political nothing to do
with clans, the moryaans made so many political blunders and destroyed south Somalia further and still have the nerve to want a "union"
with Somaliland.

At the end of the day they're both the same shit just different toilets as far
as we are concerned ....You sound faqash-like when you make these statements

Faqash implies one who is a supporter of the former ousted governmenet of Somalia led by Siad Bare. Many Hawiye are "Faqash" by
that definition.

True ...however you know what I mean when I say faqash.
Ha soo kala dhawaysan the enemies...they are the same.