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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby DonCorleone » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:45 pm

Lool at Isaaq soldiers in Siyaads Barre army.
I don't remember the source. But at the beginning of
the 80s a 2/3 of the troops stationed in the North were non-Northern.

By the late 80s when Konfuuristaanis were bombing our cities
and levelling to the ground, that proportion plummeted to a negligible percentage.
What point are you trying to make by saying that? You interchange between lions and victims. :?

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby MrPrestige » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:47 pm

NHG I have a political problem with the moryaans, not clan. As long as they don't claim my state and digest in their thick moryaan
skulls that there will never be a union between us and them, it is all good. They need few pumps to the head to bring them
back to reality, many of them are beyond delusional.
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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby Marques » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:52 pm

Kid you should learn history there was thousands of your people as soldiers in Somaliland fighting the SNM. A large part of the
bombers were Wanlaweyns from Barawaani, donk herder Cungaals, Hawaadle etc you name it. So don't tell me your moryaan people
weren't involved in it, you came as a slave and you were defeated in Somaliland along with your master. Taleex is a local issue it has
to be sorted out first like Las Anod, step by step nothing is done overnight.
Soldiers that fought SNM...hmm, thing is, i never said that wasn't true..but you somehow interpreted this as Hawiyes despising Isaaq, notwithstanding the fact they weren't clan soldiers they were conscripted government troops coming from all clans including Isaaqs/other northerners which is why Riyaale is often accused of being Faqash as well as Cumar Carte/Laxwase/Xawaadle Madar etc..the same guys who not only turned a blind eye to the harrowing of Isaaq they were in MSB and Cali Mahdis government, completely discrediting of their own fellow SNM :lol:

But let me get this straight, you said this,
There was some Isaaq guys like Col Tanzania and Dhagaweyne etc who also did damage to the Majerteens.
You acknowledge that there were men from your clan who took orders from Siyaad Barre to attack a clan that has no business with you but they aren't slaves though? :lol:

You need to learn that there are a lot of men in the former Somalia and the current Somalia who did things outside the clan complex for their own personal interest and that it doesn't equate to what a clan views.

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby abdikarim86 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:54 pm

Lool at Isaaq soldiers in Siyaads Barre army.
I don't remember the source. But at the beginning of
the 80s a 2/3 of the troops stationed in the North were non-Northern.

By the late 80s when Konfuuristaanis were bombing our cities
and levelling to the ground, that proportion plummeted to a negligible percentage.
What point are you trying to make by saying that? You interchange between lions and victims. :?
Point is ....All Somalis vs me ...and I still won ;)

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby DonCorleone » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:57 pm

Lool at Isaaq soldiers in Siyaads Barre army.
I don't remember the source. But at the beginning of
the 80s a 2/3 of the troops stationed in the North were non-Northern.

By the late 80s when Konfuuristaanis were bombing our cities
and levelling to the ground, that proportion plummeted to a negligible percentage.
What point are you trying to make by saying that? You interchange between lions and victims. :?
Point is ....All Somalis vs me ...and I still won ;)
By running away from the fight.... yes... you didn't win in any battle fronts lol. If you're going to spin history and claim you fought all Somalis (like my clan did) then at least give some respect to the clan who really did that because that looks hypocritical...

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby MrPrestige » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:58 pm

Whatelse could it be? 57 Somalilanders were murdered in so called "Mogadishu" in 1989. It was only much later when the problems came to
their backyard aka the poisoning of Hwiye wells in Mudug that they suddenly cried and became anti Siad Bare. Those individuals you mentioned
were a minor compared to the bombers and other people who were fighting on the ground trying to remove SNM which they failed.


As for the two guys, do you see me condoning their cimes in Mudug? Nope. There is big difference between two guys and bringing thousands
of your people to Somaliland to try and fight the locals. Anyway I am not one to dwell on the past, Godane has done enough damage to the
south. My point is simple, Somalilanders don't want union with southerners, get that in your skulls instead of crying after us for "union".
Learn to stand on your own two feets.

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby DonCorleone » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:03 pm

Whatelse could it be? 57 Somalilanders were murdered in so called "Mogadishu" in 1989. It was only much later when the problems came to
their backyard aka the poisoning of Hwiye wells in Mudug that they suddenly cried and became anti Siad Bare. Those individuals you mentioned
were a minor compared to the bombers and other people who were fighting on the ground trying to remove SNM which they failed.


As for the two guys, do you see me condoning their cimes in Mudug? Nope. There is big difference between two guys and bringing thousands
of your people to Somaliland to try and fight the locals. Anyway I am not one to dwell on the past, Godane has done enough damage to the
south. My point is simple, Somalilanders don't want union with southerners, get that in your skulls instead of crying after us for "union".
Learn to stand on your own two feets.
This isn't about the union or what happened in 89 because that can always be debated. It's the fact that you have a hatred towards Hawiye so why don't you just admit it and state the reason why?

"I hate Hawiye" is not that hard to say, pretending you care about mooryaans or looting is something else.

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby Marques » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:10 pm

Whatelse could it be? 57 Somalilanders were murdered in so called "Mogadishu" in 1989. It was only much later when the problems came to
their backyard aka the poisoning of Hwiye wells in Mudug that they suddenly cried and became anti Siad Bare. Those individuals you mentioned
were a minor compared to the bombers and other people who were fighting on the ground trying to remove SNM which they failed.


As for the two guys, do you see me condoning their cimes in Mudug? Nope. There is big difference between two guys and bringing thousands
of your people to Somaliland to try and fight the locals. Anyway I am not one to dwell on the past, Godane has done enough damage to the
south. My point is simple, Somalilanders don't want union with southerners, get that in your skulls instead of crying after us for "union".
Learn to stand on your own two feets.
Sxb you can keep dodging what's obvious, it's up to you. But as long as you continue to pedal some bullshit i will be here to correct you. You tried to use the siege on Hargeisa to prove this non-existent contempt between Isaaqs and Hawiyes. Truth is, Hawiyes were not high-spirited patriots that cared for other clans, they only turned on Barre when he turned on them. And the same goes for every other clan in Somalia. If Barre had decided to go to war with Hawiyes early on, do you think an Isaaq man would have cared? :lol: Course not. But that doesn't mean he's dormant or that he's a slave. It's just different priorities.

Godane came to southern Somalia at the request of a Hawiye man who has now passed away. He brought his clan friends and many followers from the north to fight. Does this mean Isaaqs are slaves fighting a war they have no business with? No, it means it's a few mercenaries who came to fight not in the name of beesha Isaaq but the name of beesha Shabaab.

You have lost credibility many, many times and your own fellow landers know it too. Malaha reer abtigaa aa dhegtaada wax ku shubeen :lol:

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby MrPrestige » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:16 pm

It still proves the animosity. The fact thousands of your kins went to fight a war that didn't concern them shows they were servile alike and
don't come here with about Tanzania and Dhagaweyne in Mudug, well those two guys despised Majerteens sameway Morgan hated Isaaq.
But there is no excuse for "thousands" of your people running to Somaliland like sheeps to fight the SNM. As for Isaaq no Isaaq has ever
fought in Hutu lands in order to annihilate them before Godane, in fact it was Haji Risaaldr Musa that sent thousands of ammunitions to
your kins in Hobyo who were under Kenadiid :lol: .


It doesn't matter whose request Godane came with, what is clear is his military campaigns devastated Hawiye lands and empowered
minorities. It is one of the reasons why now Biyomaal and Jareerweyne have enough weapons to slaughter your people if they
try to enroach into their lands.

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby DonCorleone » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:20 pm

It still proves the animosity. The fact thousands of your kins went to fight a war that didn't concern them shows they were servile alike
Not sure if serious......

lol

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Postby Marques » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:30 pm

It still proves the animosity. The fact thousands of your kins went to fight a war that didn't concern them shows they were servile alike and
don't come here with about Tanzania and Dhagaweyne in Mudug, well those two guys despised Majerteens sameway Morgan hated Isaaq.
But there is no excuse for "thousands" of your people running to Somaliland like sheeps to fight the SNM. As for Isaaq no Isaaq has ever
fought in Hutu lands in order to annihilate them before Godane, in fact it was Haji Risaaldr Musa that sent thousands of ammunitions to
your kins in Hobyo who were under Kenadiid :lol: .


It doesn't matter whose request Godane came with, what is clear is his military campaigns devastated Hawiye lands and empowered
minorities.
:lol: Hawiyes went in their thousands to fight the war against Isaaq? I already told you, those troops were conscripted soldiers from all corners of Somalia, the bulk of them being Ogaadeen infact since General Gabyow had a specific ethnic cleansing plan for Hargeisa in the hopes his kin can settle in Hargeisa. I don't know why you single out the Hawiye in all this amongst many of Somalias different clans. Your own Isaaqs including major figures in the government stood by the tragedy but you don't seem to notice them. Who is the bigger slave then, a Hawiye soldier who is told to kill members of a clan he has no connection with for a wage (neither him nor his own family are in danger) or an Isaaq politician who is cooperating with the same regime that is killing his people?

Igarre? :lol: Don't tell me that sensationalist bull that one Isaaq diplomat named Ducaale wrote in his book has any bearing on the actual events of Kenadiid. Kenadiid and his majerteens millets from Hobyo were removed from that village by an Italian officer because his throat was not big enough to take the cock of Rome.

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby MrPrestige » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:38 pm

The reason I am singling out the moryaans is because they are not traditional rivals, so there is no excuse of bringing thousands of flithy soldiers stinking of
cambuulo in our territory. Why are you comparing yourself with Darood? Do you share borders with Isaaq, is there any historic conflicts dating to the 19th
century between moryaans and Isaaqs? The answer is no, don't compare apples and oranges. Who are those major figures? Like I said Riyaale was a
minor figure in the former ousted government, it is only southerners that love to over exaggerate it. Majority of the bombers were southerners, thousands
of your people were also in Somaliland, deal with those harsh facts.


Yep, it wouldn't be far fetched considering dude fought the Dervish in many battles while you were fetching milk for Kenadiid.

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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby HayWire » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:38 pm

My point is simple, Somalilanders don't want union with southerners, get that in your skulls instead of crying after us for "union".
Learn to stand on your own two feets.
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HABAR YAANYUUR/YOONIS WANT UNION, CUZ THEY ARE TREATED LIKE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS, THEY ARE USED AND ABUSED LIKE A CRACKHO3 IN THE TRIANGLE. 20+ YEARS AND COUNTING. NEAREST YOU GOT WAS THIS POOR GUY BEING BEATEN UP IN PARLIAMENT. 
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Re: Moryaans take notes:Difference between Somaliland & Soma

Postby MrPrestige » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:43 pm

Remind me again whose elders got molested in jail including Indho Cadde, Aweys etc? Yep Habar Gidir Kintirs/Huwiiyo, the people of the
hell on earth (Galgaduud) aka third class citizens of Zoomalia. Is Aweys still rotting in jail? :lol: It is funny how the biggest leader of
the Habar Kintirs/Hutuwiye aka Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys of ICU days got humialiated.


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