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Real Talk Konfurians Only !

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Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:27 pm

Would SOmalilanders, and Somali Speakers from outside the Konfur, kindly stay out.


So my dear Konfurians, what is a manageable situation for the Konfurian State:

1. Do we continue to be allegedly represented by a government that can not stand on its own two feet ? One that is more beholden to its foreign bodyguards and funders.

2. At what point do we accept that no foreigner can bring us any stability or solution to our problems ?

3. Why do we allow our futures to be mortgaged by foreigners ?

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby BlackVelvet » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:42 pm

1. Do we continue to be allegedly represented by a government that can not stand on its own two feet ? One that is more beholden to its foreign bodyguards and funders.
As opposed to one that is protected by clan militia?

2. At what point do we accept that no foreigner can bring us any stability or solution to our problems ?
When Somalis stand united and don't say things like you did in point 1 i.e. allegedly represented

3. Why do we allow our futures to be mortgaged by foreigners ?
Because we don't trust each other and can't let each other lead, see point 1 and 2

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby HusseinHassan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:04 pm

misery loves company. habar gidir is in misery, but can't get a company. :pac:

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby SultanOrder » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:17 pm

Decenterlization. Forget a central government for now where no bodies that represent no body but their own interests hold power for a whole Country. Delete the whole notion of gobal, so that wherever you can Control is where you control. Have mini nation States, then we can focus on one nation.

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby Bermooda » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:00 pm

In order to control your own country you need a loyal army that is well fed and that is not happening. These cadans have trained thousand of soldiers then took them to the front-line with no salary resulting in them putting up isbaaros. I don't blame those soldiers it's called a survival instinct. You put me in harms way not caring whether i die or not and when i do i'm leaving my family without breadwinner and you cant even pay me when i'm alive.

That is why it is time for us to start some sort of funding program for a 10000 strong $200 month salary SNA (I meant $2607.14 a year)(that salary is to motivate them) for S/C Somalia. But in order to do this it needs 100000 volunteers who donate $20 a month or 200000 who donate $10 a month with a total of $26,071,428.5714 for the whole of the 10000 strong SNA.

The SFG should be responsible for the weapons part. I know the number of volunteers needed is huge but i think this is the only way so let me know if you think i'm crazy or thinking outside the box :up: ps the Somali presdient had a similar idea but due to no one trusting the SFG it flopped :down:

Perfect_Order mini nation States in :som: is exactly what our neighbours are working on divide and conquer i can live with a decentralized state but what you are recommending should only be directed at a future Somaliweyn where the 5 regions become a Europe type of Union.

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby STARKAST » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:12 am

So this is a Hutu USC convention whose selling the machetes

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby PrinceDaadi » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:48 am

In order to control your own country you need a loyal army that is well fed and that is not happening. These cadans have trained thousand of soldiers then took them to the front-line with no salary resulting in them putting up isbaaros. I don't blame those soldiers it's called a survival instinct. You put me in harms way not caring whether i die or not and when i do i'm leaving my family without breadwinner and you cant even pay me when i'm alive.

That is why it is time for us to start some sort of funding program for a 10000 strong $200 month salary SNA (I meant $2607.14 a year)(that salary is to motivate them) for S/C Somalia. But in order to do this it needs 100000 volunteers who donate $20 a month or 200000 who donate $10 a month with a total of $26,071,428.5714 for the whole of the 10000 strong SNA.

The SFG should be responsible for the weapons part. I know the number of volunteers needed is huge but i think this is the only way so let me know if you think i'm crazy or thinking outside the box :up: ps the Somali presdient had a similar idea but due to no one trusting the SFG it flopped :down:

Perfect_Order mini nation States in :som: is exactly what our neighbours are working on divide and conquer i can live with a decentralized state but what you are recommending should only be directed at a future Somaliweyn where the 5 regions become a Europe type of Union.
The problem is not about cash, the problem is lack institution, the government receives enough revenue to pay the army.

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby skywalker25 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:10 am

So this is a Hutu USC convention whose selling the machetes
Dont worry the cut will be swift. You wont feel a things.. :ehh:

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Re: Real Talk Konfurians Only !

Postby oxymoron » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:17 am

Would SOmalilanders, and Somali Speakers from outside the Konfur, kindly stay out.


So my dear Konfurians, what is a manageable situation for the Konfurian State:

1. Do we continue to be allegedly represented by a government that can not stand on its own two feet ? One that is more beholden to its foreign bodyguards and funders.

2. At what point do we accept that no foreigner can bring us any stability or solution to our problems ?

3. Why do we allow our futures to be mortgaged by foreigners ?

1. Move The capital to Galkayo

2.Dissolve the incompetent Parliament.

3.Reduce the army and police to management size that is sustainable without aid from the West.

4.Let the real powers of the country rule, there is no need to waste space & resources with .5s that make no real difference on the ground.

5. Set a salary of $1,000 for each MP a month, Set $2,000 a month for Ministers. $3,000 a month for Speaker & $5,000 a month for President.
btw deputy Minister should get $1,500 a month.

Generals-$3,000 a month.
Police officer $150 a month
Army-250 a month
Special forces-$500 a month.

6.Make a new Parliament with those with real power that hold territory. 5 representatives for each of the original 18 regions will give us a total of 90mps.
7. Elect a New President.
8. 20,000 total army force. 5,000 darood, 5,000 hawiye, 5,000 Eelay, 4,000 dir and 1,000 .5s.


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