puntlanders and jubbalanders come in

[whitehartlane]

Subxana Allah chinaman.. You know how dire the situation is anywhere in the south south... Besides kismaayo and Mogadishu death on a mass level can occur at any given time. Masaakiinta ilahay

It's a total mess down there. I wouldn't be too hasty in sending these people back, cuz they will be robbed, raped and ravaged at will. Also, we need them to build the puntland infrastructure, siiba roads, no harti man regardless of the wage will be digging no mans land in the scorching heat. We are worse than the carabta in that sense. Give them menial jobs..every house in puntland needs a maid.

Send the hawiyes packing though..send them to hargeysa or get them marching to galgaduud

[STARKAST]

No no i assure you will only live for a limited amount of years and that your posterity will do just fine. Puntland is a harsh terrain, reer PL are the most resilient and hardy Somalis today, they will do just fine.

Have you been to Puntland in the last year, or last 10 years ? Both groups bantu iyo reer bay do all the manual labour, and are the working class in Puntland. Specially in Bossaso.
The NHS would crumble if it was not for immigrants same thing for Bossaso. Reer Puntland need to project a positive image to the horn. We are after all the founders of Somalia. We have a responsibility in portraying good governance.
Both of these groups pose 0 threat to reer Puntland, they are like the proletariat they have 0 means to influence or take over Puntland. So there is no problem.
As long as they play their role they can stay. Period.
Remember Puntland is part of Somalia (same as 'Somaliland' proper), freedom of movement is sacrosanct. Nothing me or you can do about them being there, unless law is changed.
whitehartlane is right they live in a dire place, Ethiopians occupy baydhabo, it is a occupied town just like Xamar town. No a place for habitation when bombs go off every Thursday.
hawiyes can stay in Puntland too i saw a few there, they seemed happy, they can stay as long as they don't chimpout. Joke.
Somalis have no choice apart from getting on with each other.

[Chinaman]

Okay, let's receive another 400,000 idps! Let them take over the whole of Puntland, let there be no registration, no cap to the amount, no control, let Puntland be 60% non-Native. Let them receive all the UNDP main Mashruucs & Hayaads Bixiins that the UN sets for Puntland & benefit from it while Plers in Caluula and Bander Beyla starve to death at the expense from malnutrition & disease (because we as Reer Pl are so bloody advanced , ain't we? we ain't got no damn poor folk at all )
lets even incorporate them into the Puntland parliament as well while at the same time we should also marginalise smaller clans in PL too (as an expense for the seats given to the non-Natives in the future.....ofcourse ).
Lets actually give up PL on a plate to others, we might as well since thats where we are heading.

Apparently it takes 400,000 Idps to build stuff in Puntland. Goddam yo, we must be some major advanced country considering the number of labourers in the country, even a lot of developed countries don't have that many amount of Labourers. In a place like PL you'd think 10,000 would be more than enough. The number of IDPs alone tells you that there is no way even majority of them are labourers, so many do absolute nothing and live in camps with the help of UNDP. Even Somaliland doesn't need that many Idps, considering how they tend to do much of the Labour work themselves and how they tend to have waay less Konfur Idps. Somalilanders work for themselves and their country. Puntlanders though have opened the gates for everyone to invade and tend to think that they actually "need" those folks. Maxay na dhamaan reer woqooiye? Well for a start I think they don't tend to have as many pathetic kumbayas as us who would rather invest in Xamar and build it than their own hometowns, also they understand that they need to preserve their hometowns from hordes of migrants. You guys and your arguments are pathetic. Fuck Somalia, Fuck the south, fuck these parasite migrants that have made the average Puntlander more lazier than the average fat Saudi when back in the days our people were productive hardworking folks. Today Bosaaso is more cosmopolitan than Xamar with the amount of non-Natives it hosts bahaha, its an absolute joke. Ilaahow Dulinimada nagaqaad.

[GIJaamac]

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abaayo

How can you send Hawiyes away when they don't even live there ? It should be more like your parasite kin in Xamar who should be sent packing to their shitholes, baasdiradyahay.

[Chinaman]

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abaayo

How can you send Hawiyes away when they don't even live there ? It should be more like your parasite kin in Xamar who should be sent packing to their shitholes, baasdiradyahay.

lol Mj are too nice. The amount of Hawiye Rufyaans in Pl is a lot. Thankfully they're mainly in Bosaaso. And which Xamar? The piece of shit that Hawiye shat upon for over 23 years, the once great captial which is now nothing more than a shithole, the same city (if we can call it that) which over 50% of it is today inhabited by Idps who live in camps? (your very own people)

What's Hawiye got to do with you though? Aren't you yourself a Jareerweyne? How dare you even come to this thread Adoon-yahow? lol We are discussing your people (D&M + Jareerweyne) and what to do with them since they tend to pop out kids like maxa kaagalay & arrive in hordes to our cities running away from the south. So ironic that you posted in here when we were talking about dadkaaga oo ah the gypsies of Somalia. I guess you couldn't resist.

[STARKAST]

Bantu iyo reer bay aren't represented in parliament, they are just a work force, and they don't even own anything, they have little representation except being on UN stats for food aid.
However your right the natives living on the extremities of Puntland, should be taken care of first to an extent via road building.
400k. But yes your right there are a sizeable amount maybe 60k. Somaliland proper actually throws out IDPS and doesn't allow reer bay to settle there let alone bantus.
No such thing as a Somalilander, use the word Isaaq. They build their land because its the only land they have. Simple. Reer Puntland invest in koonfur because we aren't isolationist people. Chinaman think bigger, change your triangle politics.
You seem like a puntland extremist, but its o.k every area in Somalia has rednecks, Xamar, Galkaayo, Burco etc etc
Chinaman don't diss Hawiye, its in our interests to be proper allies with them for the sake of peace on the horn, the vultures in Addis, Nairiobi and heck even Sierra Leone are looking on.
You know whats funny you are a immigrant in the west yet you frown upon when Somalis relocate to the north of their own country.
Mozambique boy there is alot of hawiye people in Puntland and i'm not talking about galkaayo/mudug
Immigration is good, specially when benefits outweigh the costs

[Chinaman]

Bantu iyo reer bay aren't represented in parliament, they are just a work force, and they don't even own anything, they have little representation except being on UN stats for food aid.
However your right the natives living on the extremities of Puntland, should be taken care of first to an extent via road building.
400k. But yes your right there are a sizeable amount maybe 60k. Somaliland proper actually throws out IDPS and doesn't allow reer bay to settle there let alone bantus.

See that's the thing, you're underestimating the bloody number which must be why you're so unconcerned. Recent PL stats say they may be as many as 400,000! I don't think you get me, I'm not against a normal number like you suggested (60k or less) but if its in the hundreds of thousands then fuck no (over my dead body.) Maybe we should do a count on the non-Natives and then see how much they are (A thing I've suggested so many flipping times.) There should be a process of registration for the Idps.

In Iraq right now, the Idps arriving to Kurdistan are being registered. Its part of managing displaced people and is done throughout the world in Un-normal circumstances like the one we are in (civil war) where peaceful areas get huge amounts of Idps. Possibly then we could see what we do, depending on how much the number is.

You know whats funny you are a immigrant in the west yet you frown upon when Somalis relocate to the north of their own country.

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I'm actually planning on going back as soon as possible mate after I finish my studies. My family is pretty significant back home and I've got enough connections to make me truly help my people after I finish my studies which I hope to do.

[Chinaman]

R/p

[GIJaamac]

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abaayo

How can you send Hawiyes away when they don't even live there ? It should be more like your parasite kin in Xamar who should be sent packing to their shitholes, baasdiradyahay.

lol Mj are too nice. The amount of Hawiye Rufyaans in Pl is a lot. Thankfully they're mainly in Bosaaso. And which Xamar? The piece of shit that Hawiye shat upon for over 23 years, the once great captial which is now nothing more than a shithole, the same city (if we can call it that) which over 50% of it is today inhabited by Idps who live in camps? (your very own people)

What's Hawiye got to do with you though? Aren't you yourself a Jareerweyne? How dare you even come to this thread Adoon-yahow? lol We are discussing your people (D&M + Jareerweyne) and what to do with them since they tend to pop out kids like maxa kaagalay & arrive in hordes to our cities running away from the south. So ironic that you posted in here when we were talking about dadkaaga oo ah the gypsies of Somalia. I guess you couldn't resist.

chinawoman

Someone has been lying to you. Im not Jareerweyne, however they are my fellow countrymen. Don't release your frustration on me, abaayo. I wouldn't comment in this useless guulwadayn thread if your sister wouldn't mentioned my clan. I repeat my self, there are no Hawiye living in PL currenty, which is suffering from tahriib epidemic. However there are many parasite jebertis living in Xamar, even though they hate the city's residents. Hopefully we will address this problem once the city is al-shabaab free and peaceful. I can understand that your ancestral land is waste land, but running away is not an option abaayo. jebertis = cheerleading gypsy people always enjoying on other peoples land.Truly hopeless people. Sidaan isu dhaama, abaayo.

[STARKAST]

I just came back from Puntland, for e.g Garowe is about 100k and there was probably only 5% was non native. thats a good proportion. There wil never bee 400k non natives.
yaa tahay ?
The idps live on the magaalo dhexe, they are a miskeen population that also allows us to recieve more aid and significance to the itl community. It also helps us to reduce the special status of sl of being a 'haven of peace'. politics its always politics.
am glad you have understood that immigration is good well done sxb.
Do you think reer puntland shouldn't immigrate to jubbland and build their second homeland, or should we just stay in puntland like our friends in 'SL' in the triangle tight bubble ?
Gypsy people ? 25 years of chaos, should you even be talking ? self created refugee, be gone.

[Chinaman]

chinawoman

Someone has been lying to you. Im not Jareerweyne, however they are my fellow countrymen. Don't release your frustration on me, abaayo. I wouldn't comment in this useless guulwadayn thread if your sister wouldn't mentioned my clan. I repeat my self, there are no Hawiye living in PL currenty, which is suffering from tahriib epidemic. However there are many parasite jebertis living in Xamar, even though they hate the city's residents. Hopefully we will address this problem once the city is al-shabaab free and peaceful. I can understand that your ancestral land is waste land, but running away is not an option abaayo. jebertis = cheerleading gypsy people always enjoying on other peoples land.Truly hopeless people. Sidaan isu dhaama, abaayo.

This adoon is one funny Adoon

Jareerweyne Xiinoow, you piece of shit. Believe me, we will send you packing and you will go back to your former Dir or D&M masters that you escaped from. Xamar is a shithole where 50% of its inhabitants live in makeshift camps, most of them being your people. It's an insult to even call it a city. I understand you're one of the few lucky adoons from Somalia who live in the west but the predicament of your fellow Bide's back home isn't so good. I'm sure you're very aware of that though. Its likely one of your relatives right now is in a camp begging for food rations which is pretty messed up. You should appreciate how lucky you are Adoon boy instead of 24/7 being on Somalinet claiming what you're not. I don't blame you though, the world can be very cruel. I too would claim something else if I were what you are.

[Chinaman]

I just came back from Puntland, for e.g Garowe is about 100k and there was probably only 5% was non native. thats a good proportion. There wil never bee 400k non natives.
yaa tahay ?
The idps live on the magaalo dhexe, they are a miskeen population that also allows us to recieve more aid and significance to the itl community. It also helps us to reduce the special status of sl of being a 'haven of peace'. politics its always politics.
am glad you have understood that immigration is good well done sxb.
Do you think reer puntland shouldn't immigrate to jubbland and build their second homeland, or should we just stay in puntland like our friends in 'SL' in the triangle tight bubble ?
Gypsy people ? 25 years of chaos, should you even be talking ? self created refugee, be gone.

Yh I Think you misunderstood me. I have no problem with like a 60k Idp population. I do have a problem with a number in the hundreds of thousands or something like that like some sources say. Its all about numbers for me. Other wise I don't mind them as long as they are a small minority. Pl is for us at the end of the day. Pl should see how the country progresses tbh. Thank god we come from a region exclusive to us, if Somalia collapses we always have Pl. If things go better for Somalia then yh I don't mind if we spread-around (but we always have to maintain our degaans/strongholds).

[GIJaamac]

chinawoman

Do you want me to become a Jareerweyne that bad ? lol I ain't your relative from punaniland. Addoon jirka iyo maskaxda laga gumestey waa adiga, nacaladyahay. You can send all non-jebertis away from punaniland desert, nobody gives a shit abaayo. Yes in world standard Xamar is a shithole, but in somali standrads it's lightyears ahead of your hopeless shithole. Sharmuuto ur badan iga dheh.

[Chinaman]

chinawoman

Do you want me to become a Jareerweyne that bad ? lol I ain't your relative from punaniland. Addoon jirka iyo maskaxda laga gumestey waa adiga, nacaladyahay. You can send all non-jebertis away from punaniland desert, nobody gives a shit abaayo. Yes in world standard Xamar is a shithole, but in somali standrads it's lightyears ahead of your hopeless shithole. Sharmuuto ur badan iga dheh.

Jareer ka caalacal badan wileygay ma arag. You're an adoon piece shit, always was and always will be. As I said you're one of the few lucky ones to escape the harsh lifestyle likely your cousin or even one of your parents are living in right now in Koonfur. Adoon kibray wax ka daran maba jidho. Anyway I don't give a shit about Ugandisho, a "city" (can you even call it a city? lol) controlled on all four corners by Amisom (your fellow Jareers), a city whose folks live in constant fear, homes ridden with bullet holes and the rest living in camps surviving on food rations, if anything I pity you folks. Adoon xun oo aan waxba aqoon ayaad tahay smh

You're a funny Jareer though, I'll give you that.

[GIJaamac]

Abaayo you from punaniland, a land synonym for Jareer people. You are bantu or half bantu at least, a self hating one though. Acting something different in cyber world doesn't change the reality. Once a slave always a slave. Sad sharmuuto.