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Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:09 am
by sahal80
There is a fear that ethiopia may take advantage of the baydhabo situation by supporting "the local legitimacy" than calling for recociliation talks!.
This is what I said in December
Topic: Ethiopia will destroy Jubaland completely
First they empowered Ogaden/Marehan with this 3 state Jubaland and now they will fund, support and create a 6 state Jubaland with Digil&Mirifle at the helm. Those who think Digil&Mirifle will not go through with this have another thing coming, they will get complete backing from Ethiopia who wants to cause havoc in Somalia so prepare to see D&M with technicals and weapons to put this 6 state Jubaland into action.
Ok. Though I have seen before another anlaysis with the same title: ethiopia to destroy jubbaland! Have read it?
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:12 am
by hydrogen
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:14 am
by BigBreak
in my opinion, the modified thirteen regions of ex italian colony somalia should be evolved into 4 - 7 states whereby minimum 2 and maximum 3 regions merge to form a state
here's my example:

Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:15 am
by Osob101
Thanks brother Sahal, but Im wondering on why SW state claims S/hoose as theirs when clearly S/hoose politicians refused to join them,....it makes more sense to let S/hoose join the banadiir state then SW state!
anyway i just hope federalism loses in the coming constitution elections, as we all know federalism does not suit Somalia and its people.
I'm from there, they were the majority so they have right for to do whatever but politically it doesn't woork form.
There are 4 xamar initiatives: splitting mogadishu so only wardhiigley, waaberi, cabdi casiis and xamarwayne will form the capital wich the parliament calls it a special district, the rest of banaadir will join the two shabeele known in the old days. Asthe banaadir region wich had direct borders with hiiraan and and bay. In this way, the 3 millions of mogadishu will get representation in the coming upper parliament!
The second initiative is adding hiiraan to this banaadir state under the title shabeele state
The third initiative is adding hiiraan to mudug as a central state
The las initiative is a federal state from galkacyo to jilib borders.
Are you sure your from Shabeele Hoose?

Mirifle as a Clan has Zero Degmo in that region.
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:16 am
by Even123
Sahal doesnt the Somalia government have the power to tell the Ethiopians to butt off the Internal Somalia affair,.....and why would Hassan accept kenya's request to form Jubaland with its three region???
Hassan should work effortlessly to bring Galkacyo- Jilib (Mudug-Juba dhexe) federal state into reality, and force madobe to relinquish Juba dhexe from his foreign backed kenyan hands, madobe and kenya can keep juba hoose and Gedo but not Juba dhexe???
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:18 am
by BigBreak
in my opinion, the modified thirteen regions of ex italian colony somalia should be evolved into 4 - 7 states whereby minimum 2 and maximum 3 regions merge to form a state
here's my example:

my map looks gd

Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:18 am
by Osob101
Even
Clearly you are day dreaming. One federal state from Mudug till Jilib will never work.
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:22 am
by greenday
To be honest this 6 gobol might be the only way for peace, dadka hadaan wax lisigu daring it will be difficult to tell someone they have the right to choose and then say sorry but these people have chosen for you and therefore you belong in this state, since their is no one man one vote.
Maybe we should have one last war, where you can take you control. Only one rule would be no foreigners they can watch and later deal with the bad losers

Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:27 am
by sahal80
Lol I see. I thought him another guy, your getting dangerous kid!.
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:41 am
by sahal80
To be honest this 6 gobol might be the only way for peace, dadka hadaan wax lisigu daring it will be difficult to tell someone they have the right to choose and then say sorry but these people have chosen for you and therefore you belong in this state, since their is no one man one vote.
Maybe we should have one last war, where you can take you control. Only one rule would be no foreigners they can watch and later deal with the bad losers

somalia is likely to have 4 federal states, two from north and two from south
Somali president calls the shyt that is gound around an interim admins and has called them to cooperate for their future federal accordance!
Listen to these vague allusions
http://somalimemo.net/qashin/Xasan%20Sheekh.mp3
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:45 am
by BigBreak
sahal what do u think of my map above?
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:50 am
by sahal80
Thanks brother Sahal, but Im wondering on why SW state claims S/hoose as theirs when clearly S/hoose politicians refused to join them,....it makes more sense to let S/hoose join the banadiir state then SW state!
anyway i just hope federalism loses in the coming constitution elections, as we all know federalism does not suit Somalia and its people.
I'm from there, they were the majority so they have right for to do whatever but politically it doesn't woork form.
There are 4 xamar initiatives: splitting mogadishu so only wardhiigley, waaberi, cabdi casiis and xamarwayne will form the capital wich the parliament calls it a special district, the rest of banaadir will join the two shabeele known in the old days. Asthe banaadir region wich had direct borders with hiiraan and and bay. In this way, the 3 millions of mogadishu will get representation in the coming upper parliament!
The second initiative is adding hiiraan to this banaadir state under the title shabeele state
The third initiative is adding hiiraan to mudug as a central state
The las initiative is a federal state from galkacyo to jilib borders.
Are you sure your from Shabeele Hoose?

Mirifle as a Clan has Zero Degmo in that region.
Haven't been beyond afgoye but my family are from yaaqbariwane.
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:56 am
by Osob101
Afgooye is a suburb of Xamar Soo iska reer Xamar Ayaa tahaaye and for someone who is from Afgooye your still clueless about the Dynamics of the region. There is more Mirifle living in Xamar than even Shabeele Hoose so they might as well add it to their federal state than

Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:57 am
by hydrogen
Osob who controls S/hoose currently?
Re: speaker calls for suspension of the baydhabo conference
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:01 am
by sahal80
Sahal doesnt the Somalia government have the power to tell the Ethiopians to butt off the Internal Somalia affair,.....and why would Hassan accept kenya's request to form Jubaland with its three region???
Hassan should work effortlessly to bring Galkacyo- Jilib (Mudug-Juba dhexe) federal state into reality, and force madobe to relinquish Juba dhexe from his foreign backed kenyan hands, madobe and kenya can keep juba hoose and Gedo but not Juba dhexe???
jubbaland is a project that is based on the azanian initiative of the professor gandhi and these ethic somali officials in the kenyan administration so they come up with that map and kenya was trying to make it a buffer zone region so what can you do? But if kenya loses its influence on this region he may change the map in the federal stage.