conflict is a strategy for dam jadid govt!

[sahal80]

How many local regional conflicts have destroyed the project from within to end up with this govts project and control!

The last intresting masrixiya/play we have watched was baydhabo

Expect soon an official statement about a far away conflicts wich have damaged more one sides project and interests

Not to control there but to weaken them!.

No details!.

[Substance]

It will eventuelly come back and hurt dam jadiid itself. Such policy is counterproductive in a country emergin from 20+ years of conflicts.

[The`Republic]

You function more like a government propagandist/ventriloquist then an analyst as you like to self-style yourself?

Maybe they don't understand the difference between independent analysts and partisan hacks in the third world?

[sahal80]

It will eventuelly come back and hurt dam jadiid itself. Such policy is counterproductive in a country emergin from 20+ years of conflicts.

till now it works!

the End Justify the Means/al ghaya tobarir al wasila!
A principle.

[sahal80]

You function more like a government propagandist/ventriloquist then an analyst as you like to self-style yourself?

Maybe they don't understand the difference between independent analysts and partisan hacks in the third world?

Lol at govt probagandist, I'm more exposing it, means analyst!

Your more like a govt probagandist since you give her a lot of excuses!.

[The`Republic]

No, the end doesn't always justiy the means.

I will go and bring the loyalty of this town to the government so I will go and massacre all my opponents. You certainly got their loyalty afterwards, but does that justify the means?

Isn't that why Egypt is a shithole now? And Syria? Etc.

As opposed to the West where the single most important factor of it's rise is the respected contract between CITIZEN and STATE.

Your worldview is so backward and opposite of what I have seen of developed people. But then again, we are talking about Somalia...the most unstable, anarchic, backward country in the world. It wouldn't surprise me a government tasked with stabilization and reconciliation and conflict resolution can see benefit in conflict.

[GIJaamac]

Dam Jadiid exposing the foreign backed federalism system.
Long live centralism !

[The`Republic]

Compare France to Denmark...when they were becoming modern states the French monarchy brutalized it's people to continue the legacy of the monarchy.

The end was to save the monarchy and the means was force and conflict.

The Danish monarchy, wanting also to save the monarchy, willingly bestowed power and prestige on its people and reconciled all their grievances.

The end was to save the monarchy and the means was peace and negotiations.

Today France doesn't have a monarchy while Denmark has one of the longest and most respected monarchies in Europe.

ONE of those means was justified by the end. The end doesn't justify all means.

I don't see any benefit in the long term or for the people of Somalia of a government tasked with conflict resolution seeing benefit in conflict making.

[sahal80]

No, the end doesn't always justiy the means.

I will go and bring the loyalty of this town to the government so I will go and massacre all my opponents. You certainly got their loyalty afterwards, but does that justify the means?

Isn't that why Egypt is a shithole now? And Syria? Etc.

As opposed to the West where the single most important factor of it's rise is the respected contract between CITIZEN and STATE.

Your worldview is so backward and opposite of what I have seen of developed people. But then again, we are talking about Somalia...the most unstable, anarchic, backward country in the world. It wouldn't surprise me a government tasked with stabilization and reconciliation and conflict resolution can see benefit in conflict.

Lol at third world!

This is a westren philosophy wich even al qaida believes it now!

The opposite philosophy is called virtue ethics/al fadaail al akhlaqiya

Westren countries don't act the same outside of their world or even towards their muslim communities!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequentialism

[Sagaashan]

I don't know why people are surprised with Sahal he is here day in and out telling us the destructive nature and deliberate policies of DM, which is at the end of the day to make more money and influence on Somalia's back than any regime in the past. His ungodly obsession with this new movement is fetish-like but he tells the truth about this new political force.

I pray for the people in the South who have to endure such movement nevertheless

[sahal80]

I don't know why people are surprised with Sahal he is here day in and out telling us the destructive nature and deliberate policies of DM, which is at the end of the day to make more money and influence on Somalia's back than any regime in the past. His ungodly obsession with this new movement is fetish-like but he tells the truth about this new political force.

I pray for the people in the South who have to endure such movement nevertheless

Thanks for understanding my role though I don't agree with you on whether if they are on the right side or the wrong side!

The means they are using to reach their goals could be wrong but their goals could be different.

[original dervish]

This criminal network aka "Damn jadiid"......have only the illusion of power.

[sahal80]

Somali govt: we recognise neither of the two southwest presidents!

Mission accomplished!!.

[Even123]

Somali govt: we recognise neither of the two southwest presidents!

Mission accomplished!!.

Indeed brother sahal, mission accomplished

[sahal80]

I don't know why people are surprised with Sahal he is here day in and out telling us the destructive nature and deliberate policies of DM, which is at the end of the day to make more money and influence on Somalia's back than any regime in the past. His ungodly obsession with this new movement is fetish-like but he tells the truth about this new political force.

I pray for the people in the South who have to endure such movement nevertheless

Sagaashan I hope you can answer for me this

A nephew of the punlands ex president abdirahman faroole was killed in baraawe by orders from godane the amir of al shabaab mafia

Now there are two theories on why he got killed; that this is related to the departure of his uncle and was the right time to kill him as he was not able anymore to secure more funds!

The other theory is that they didn't receive more funds because of him diverting them to his own account!

Al shabaabs reasons of killing him was because of him spying to puntland administration and sending them information about their brothers in galgala!

His ancle abdirahman faroole has condemned the killing.

The al shabaab account alludes of him being paid by puntland together information for them but do you think puntland has interests to back al shabaab secretly in the south as it can stop the central govts control over the rest though al shaab also targets puntland?