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vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG state)

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vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG state)

Postby sahal80 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:18 am

Its a done deal!! HG can have its federal state, no more hiiraan excuses :D

Villa somalias vision on the Interiom regional administrations

as for interim admins "after puntland and jubba, there ramain 7 regions yet to conduct mergers including south-mudug, this implies the establishment of 2-3 more regional states"


Now guess, this doesn't include banadir( Towistic-logic says to divide bananadir was a tarsan initiative not villa somalia

So here they are

South mudug, galgaduud,(can form a state) hiiraan, middle shabelle(may form a state) bay, bakool and lower shabelle(was recognized)

Capital states

Garowe
Baydhabo
Kismayo
Baladweyne
HG

On ther hand, there is no mention of elections rather democrazation!

Electoral can be through a district representatives.
http://newsomali.com/wp-content/uploads ... ion-1.docx
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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby BigBreak » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:32 am

none of the 13 regions of somalia (ex italian colony) should merge in my opinion. however if they reduce it from 13 it should go down to the original 6 regions of 1960

benadir, majeertenia, mudug, hiiraan, lower juba and upper juba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administra ... ia#Somalia

ps why cant hiiraan join south mudug and galguduud - i mean they are all hawiye majority

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby sahal80 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:46 am

I'm tried of reading the same shyt you keep posting in every thread. Try with some thing new!.



By Dec 2014 all the 5 regional interim adminstrations should be established.

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby SecretAgent » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:07 am

Sahal what about khaatumo state and somaliland state Whats their status ?

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby whitehartlane » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:10 am

I'm tried of reading the same shyt you keep posting in every thread. Try with some thing new!.



By Dec 2014 all the 5 regional interim adminstrations should be established.

Sahal don't get your knickers in a twist mate..bigbreak is just a troll..a very predictable troll with zero intelligence..

The puntland folks would welcome this move..we would greatly appreciate if our closest southern neighbours would do us all a favour and live in 2014 rather than in 1990. Move on people..nothing to see here just habargidir doing there thing, move along please nothing special, everybody is doing it lately..

I know gaalkacyo will eventually be a city that fully will fall under puntland region.no city can have two administrations and surely baraxley will not be the new capital of the brand spanking new habargidir state..

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby BigBreak » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:21 am

whl ... ur a troll not me who has an envious obsession towards :sland: ....shhame the italians kept u together with ur hawiye masters :lol:
I'm tried of reading the same shyt you keep posting in every thread. Try with some thing new!.



By Dec 2014 all the 5 regional interim adminstrations should be established.
:gladbron:

i was only having an opinion, nothing personal :tocry:

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby sahal80 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:11 am

whl ... ur a troll not me who has an envious obsession towards :sland: ....shhame the italians kept u together with ur hawiye masters :lol:
I'm tried of reading the same shyt you keep posting in every thread. Try with some thing new!.



By Dec 2014 all the 5 regional interim adminstrations should be established.
:gladbron:

i was only having an opinion, nothing personal :tocry:
I think your troll your also a moderate somalilander who is open to depate but my friend you keep repeating the same posts aka majeerenia ex italian etc

On the other hand, I'm posting every time new stuff/points bc I don't consider my opinion will matter I rather do my analysis that are closer to the reality or post the reality itself!.

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby Hodan94 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:20 am

were the 2 mps (both rahanweyne) killed had to do with opposing this idea....cuz I hear the shaydeens had nothing to do with their killings, but its the govt that assassinated them?

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby sahal80 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:29 am

Sahal what about khaatumo state and somaliland state Whats their status ?
The vision calls puntland a interim state not a federal state

Sool sanaag are controlled by somaliland

The complitation of the federal system will continue until 2016 at that time somalia should have a permanent federal states

To avoid elections, the govt may not wanting to implement the federal system

But in case it happens in 2016, it will depend on who controls them.

I personally believe that they will be part of somaliland and a northen political deal.

Uk,US,UAE,ethiopia, djibouti, somaligovt all want this.

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby Warabaha » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:33 am

Sahal what about khaatumo state and somaliland state Whats their status ?
my mj brother, Somaliland is a different country together, you ever see or hear sfg mention Somaliland territory. If puntland keep killing our dhulo brothers, Somaliland army will massacre every mj in 2 states of puntland

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby BigBreak » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:34 am

simply somaliland will control ALL her territories she had for centuries and become a sovereign country - no other option

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby sahal80 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:37 am

simply somaliland will control ALL her territories she had for centuries and become a sovereign country - no other option
apart from the talks, somaliland is not part of this vision, federalism, all this current SFG system, it will take years and years not even in hassan sheekhs era at all.

What may happen under hassan sheekh is acknowledging the borders between the federal states and the somaliland entity.

Then somaliland will continue as the same entity until the world...who knows.

The ones who are eager for federalism will pay this price.

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby whitehartlane » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:19 pm

simply somaliland will control ALL her territories she had for centuries and become a sovereign country - no other option
apart from the talks, somaliland is not part of this vision, federalism, all this current SFG system, it will take years and years not even in hassan sheekhs era at all.

What may happen under hassan sheekh is acknowledging the borders between the federal states and the somaliland entity.

Then somaliland will continue as the same entity until the world...who knows.

The ones who are eager for federalism will pay this price.

This would have happened under the two previous Darood leaders..shirdoon and faroole both were inadequate in this field. The two Cabdiweli named leaders are a different entities altogether. Somalilands quest as a foreign nation with Sool and Sanaag has dramatically decreased with the 2014 Darood leaders. The prime minister of the SFG is more active and more of a Darood man than the previous PM whilst the current president of the puntland region is far more involved than the regime of the years past.

Somaliland currently controls only ceerigaabo and the district in Darood sanaag
Somaliland only controls Laas canood and the surroundings in Darood Sool.

And that's with faroole serving them on a silver plate to hargeisa by neglecting them.

Somalia is a qabiil based territorial politics. No qabiil is going to be under an another qabiil. Anyone who believes a Darood land will be under an independent Isaaq country is quit delusional.

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:40 pm

This is already partbof Galmudug and Garguurte should stop.underminig the.Hg state

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Re: vision2016 recognizes south-mudug as a province!!(HG sta

Postby samatar133 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:48 pm

simply somaliland will control ALL her territories she had for centuries and become a sovereign country - no other option
apart from the talks, somaliland is not part of this vision, federalism, all this current SFG system, it will take years and years not even in hassan sheekhs era at all.

What may happen under hassan sheekh is acknowledging the borders between the federal states and the somaliland entity.

Then somaliland will continue as the same entity until the world...who knows.

The ones who are eager for federalism will pay this price.

This would have happened under the two previous Darood leaders..shirdoon and faroole both were inadequate in this field. The two Cabdiweli named leaders are a different entities altogether. Somalilands quest as a foreign nation with Sool and Sanaag has dramatically decreased with the 2014 Darood leaders. The prime minister of the SFG is more active and more of a Darood man than the previous PM whilst the current president of the puntland region is far more involved than the regime of the years past.

Somaliland currently controls only ceerigaabo and the district in Darood sanaag
Somaliland only controls Laas canood and the surroundings in Darood Sool.

And that's with faroole serving them on a silver plate to hargeisa by neglecting them.

Somalia is a qabiil based territorial politics. No qabiil is going to be under an another qabiil. Anyone who believes a Darood land will be under an independent Isaaq country is quit delusional.
Whithartlane, sxb the sooner you forget about eastern sool and eastern Sanaag the better for you.

There is no point in wasting your time and resources in something you will never attain.


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