what if governors ruled somalia(article)

[sahal80]

The centralist dam jadid project is failing mainly bc of the people in xamar not having the capacity to over come al shabaab and corruption/bad governance

There is a big civilazational gap indeed between the modern state and our social and economical levels!

the centralist slogans were far from reality, as soon al shabaab was removed only from 10 districts, there were no altarnatives except ethiopia/IGAD/amisom!

Instead of waiting bank reformations and collective salvation why not let the "municipalities" get the funds for themselves so they can deliver basic services as "transitional strategy"?

I don't think its times we can think of a political ideologies and empty national slogans!

http://kenmenkhaus.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... d-somalia/

[SultanOrder]

Sahal it's good to see you becoming more rational and less partisan.

[sahal80]

Sahal it's good to see you becoming more rational and less partisan.

Lol I think I'm getting secular not rational, the west hast its potential agents so bettter to support them

bc of al shabaab they will not let somalia for them, its about who they can trust

Socularists will get more westren and arab diplomatic support and state equipments

My thoughts are just a reflection of the realpolitik on the ground accepted by the regime itself.

I was with the regime before the ethiopian/igad infiltrations

I know dj are busy nowadays of collecting money for their future institutions or are implementing their interests so they can come back one day.

[SultanOrder]

No, what I mean is that you finally have come to realize the limitations of the all powerful DJ.

[sahal80]

No, what I mean is that you finally have come to realize the limitations of the all powerful DJ.

no. I have accepted their failure like they accepted it by themseves! That is different!

This dam jadid govt was a permanent govt, I don't believe westren conspiracy, hassan sheekh had the chance of life but he didn't change the financial and security systems rather he concentrated on the political system.

The other thing(and I have many old threads on this he refused to listen their advises/road map and come up with his own centralist vision)

I said if he had listened to them he would never had local confrontations but he has chosen his groups policy over the westreners/US vision.

He will continue though until the next two years but is on a sinking ship as they won't treat him as supposed to be like a permanent.

[SultanOrder]

I'm not going to lie, but you use to come out like blind supporter of DJ. Though it matters not when you saw the reality, but that you finally saw it. So what is farah abdulqadir's plans now since he is constitution minister? Are they going to get any money from the New Deal or they just gave up on it?

[sahal80]

I'm not going to lie, but you use to come out like blind supporter of DJ. Though it matters not when you saw the reality, but that you finally saw it. So what is farah abdulqadir's plans now since he is constitution minister? Are they going to get any money from the New Deal or they just gave up on it?

actually that is your superficial understanding of me!

I use to support them from an independent position!

Have threads goes back as far as in the regimes first 6 months where I revealed the khilaf with the US and that it was the main agenda of the suspended hassan sheekhs second visit to washington.

Are you crazy, this guy got every thing: the US recognition, the UKs backing, was put as the 50 world most influential leaders.

In the london2 conference, the uk has even refused the big somali regional states to partake in the conference as observers!!

In bruseless somaliland was saved due to the talks wich has recognized it a as a separate entity but the rest was called as observers and we know what happened to some leaders!

They collacted billions for his govt!



This is why he was strong

Blame the systems

The financial system like the bank, zaadka, ports are dominated by his clan

The security system is dominated by HG

Those two groups have focked him up.

Now as there is no funds, ahmed madobe is better than barre hiiraale, abdifatah is better than laqanyo, sharif hassan is better than the rest, galmudug is better than ahlusunna.

So I why I have to support a govt that has no its own supposed alternative policies?

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The new deal has failed, now there is a new westren initiative wich will fund the govt to offer the services to the newly liberated regions.

The new deal money and any new money will be sent to the world bank, from there the bank will send to the govt through the NGOs who will check the govt. Will send small amounts and will take ages to reach the govt.

This article suggests to fund the regions directly.