Somali clan Productivity and Success

[STARKAST]

Why do certain clans have low productivity in Somalia ?

The 'small' (compared to rest) clans such as Majerteen ( + Harti-Darood) and Isaaq have created 2 'countries' independently from anyone else. Yet other clans such as Dhulbahante, Warsangali, Eeelay and even Hawiye in Somalia have collectivity low production relativity.
Peace is also a factor of my indicators.

Dhulbanthe, Warsangali and Gadbursi live side by side with Isaaq but have little to show for themselves when even Borama (Gadbursi ) being the most peaceful city in Somalia for 20 years shows little to show.
Marehan in Gedo which is a peaceful fertile region yet its blank region.
Hawiye a big clan, all they show is Mogadishu, which is a government funded region.
Using the argument of peace peace peace can't be argued because Dhulbahante, Warsangali are lacking in development yet live in a peaceful region.


Do different clans just have different cultures ? Or importantly do majority clan regions prosper, such as Jubbaland today growing like PL iyo SL.

[Titanium]

I think Hawiye are the most productive and wealthiest clan. Even with constant Shabab strikes, thousands of Hawiye diaspora have come back home while super safe Puntland and Somaliland sees thousands of their kids go in boats from Libya. Hawiye kids only flee from violence while you flee poverty. Hawiye are financially better off than other Somalis. Hawiye needs peace to thrive even more. We thrive even when bombs go off. Its you STARKAST who are lacking. Even in Kenya its us who control Eastleigh.

[FarhanYare]

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[Caesar]

but have little to show for themselves when even Borama (Gadbursi ) being the most peaceful city in Somalia for 20 years shows little to show.

WTF

Are YOU NORMAL? That's the dumbest thing I have heard.

Little to show?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoud_University

http://i.imgur.com/SuBfD.jpg

Following the outbreak of the civil war in Somalia in the early 1990s, a group of professionals and expatriates from the Awdal region began discussions in 1996 on the possibility of creating an institute of higher learning in the area. This culminated in the establishment of Amoud University (AU) in 1998, one of the country's first post-conflict tertiary institutions.

Establishing a school for the deaf as well shown below.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... liland.JPG
http://www.lughaya.com/wp-content/uploa ... ama-00.jpg
http://boorama.files.wordpress.com/2009 ... 07-034.jpg

A taste of what Borama has

[quark]

PL was built/created by all its people, bosaso went from a tuulo because of the huge contribution of Plers like Ahmed harti, Warsans who maintain huge presence in the business sector and others as well such Leelkase, Carab salax, Madhiban etc who invested all over PL.

[Sophisticate]

but have little to show for themselves when even Borama (Gadbursi ) being the most peaceful city in Somalia for 20 years shows little to show.

WTF

Are YOU NORMAL? That's the dumbest thing I have heard.

Little to show?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoud_University

http://i.imgur.com/SuBfD.jpg

Following the outbreak of the civil war in Somalia in the early 1990s, a group of professionals and expatriates from the Awdal region began discussions in 1996 on the possibility of creating an institute of higher learning in the area. This culminated in the establishment of Amoud University (AU) in 1998, one of the country's first post-conflict tertiary institutions.

Establishing a school for the deaf as well shown below.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... liland.JPG
http://www.lughaya.com/wp-content/uploa ... ama-00.jpg
http://boorama.files.wordpress.com/2009 ... 07-034.jpg

A taste of what Borama has

[Typhoon]

its foking embarrassing how the majerteens always reference the isaaq while the isaaq have a condescending attitude towards them, remind me of farooles "walaalaha naga somaliland; to wich faysal ali warabe responded condescendingly "mammul gobleedka majerteeniya ee somalia nac nac ha joojiyaan"

I have never seen isaaq flirting with majerteen but the majerteen always reference the isaaq weather bad or good.

we need to do a Freudian psychoanalysis on the average majerteen.
I think the average majerteen want to get foked by a idoor
immitation is the best form of flattery and the majerteen are masters of that

herr Eaglehawk can see through smoke screens

idoor wagaashe don`t respond to this topic watch this and enjoy from the throne that the majerteens put you one and analyse the court jesters responses

[Warabaha]

its foking embarrassing how the majerteens always reference the isaaq while the isaaq have a condescending attitude towards them, remind me of farooles "walaalaha naga somaliland; to wich faysal ali warabe responded condescendingly "mammul gobleedka majerteeniya ee somalia nac nac ha joojiyaan"

I have never seen isaaq flirting with majerteen but the majerteen always reference the isaaq weather bad or good.

we need to do a Freudian psychoanalysis on the average majerteen.
I think the average majerteen want to get foked by a idoor
immitation is the best form of flattery and the majerteen are masters of that

herr Eaglehawk can see through smoke screens

idoor wagaashe don`t respond to this topic watch this and enjoy from the throne that the majerteens put you one and analyse the court jesters responses

warya, it is not only mj, it is dhulo, warsengali and cagdheer as well. All darood look up to isaaq and worship the ground they walk on. Isaaq have got the name idoor which is a good nick from cagdheer, it means trader which shows darood have been financially dependent on isaaq for long time.

[Warabaha]

I think Hawiye are the most productive and wealthiest clan. Even with constant Shabab strikes, thousands of Hawiye diaspora have come back home while super safe Puntland and Somaliland sees thousands of their kids go in boats from Libya. Hawiye kids only flee from violence while you flee poverty. Hawiye are financially better off than other Somalis. Hawiye needs peace to thrive even more. We thrive even when bombs go off. Its you STARKAST who are lacking. Even in Kenya its us who control Eastleigh.

i agree isaaq kids do tahreeb, however hawiye kids cant as they cant afford it. It takes anything from $20k to 30$ to get into Europe. Isaaq kids can afford that unlike other clans. But isaaq is the wealthiest Somali clan as the top 10 to 20 richest Somali are isaaq

[Adali]

No clan is doing well for itself on average, there are a few rich on the top of every clan but majority are poor, on the other side of the coin some clans are doing well in regards to stability whiles others are clearly not, and I think stability is more important.

Clans are just groups of people, why should I care how much my cousins make, I ain't getting none of it anyway But what is important is the clan region being peaceful, and having opportunities in jobs and education, that's the true measure of whether a clan is successful or not.

And it is without a doubt that although some regions are peaceful they severely lack in opportunity, whiles other regions haven't even reached the adequate level of stability in terms of security.

Banter aside, we all suck, I have seen more poor from the guys claiming to be rich on this very thread than any other clan, yet they claim they are rich ? pathetic

[metamorphosis]

its foking embarrassing how the majerteens always reference the isaaq while the isaaq have a condescending attitude towards them, remind me of farooles "walaalaha naga somaliland; to wich faysal ali warabe responded condescendingly "mammul gobleedka majerteeniya ee somalia nac nac ha joojiyaan"

I have never seen isaaq flirting with majerteen but the majerteen always reference the isaaq weather bad or good.

we need to do a Freudian psychoanalysis on the average majerteen.
I think the average majerteen want to get foked by a idoor
immitation is the best form of flattery and the majerteen are masters of that

herr Eaglehawk can see through smoke screens

idoor wagaashe don`t respond to this topic watch this and enjoy from the throne that the majerteens put you one and analyse the court jesters responses

warya, it is not only mj, it is dhulo, warsengali and cagdheer as well. All darood look up to isaaq and worship the ground they walk on. Isaaq have got the name idoor which is a good nick from cagdheer, it means trader which shows darood have been financially dependent on isaaq for long time.

Cagdheer is the clan that made you langaab nicca. Who confined you triangle dwellers into the triangle? As recent as the 1980s eydoors were getting karbashed like nothing. Dont mention us next to your irrelevant gaaloraac people. If you want to know more about ogaden and eydoor relations read my location. An eydoor man said that not me!

[Warabaha]

Xabashi big foot, we gave you life you dumb scum, cidagale and habar yonis pissed on you. I don't need to say more. Wipe that xabashi cum from your teeth

[metamorphosis]

Dont mention ciiidagale. They are like what modern day black people in America are to white people. As for habar Johns they have always been the ones to suffer the most in our hands. No other Somali got owned like them. Nor even dhabayaco!

[Warabaha]

Dont mention ciiidagale. They are like what modern day black people in America are to white people. As for habar Johns they have always been the ones to suffer the most in our hands. No other Somali got owned like them. Nor even dhabayaco!

[skywalker25]

Dont mention ciiidagale. They are like what modern day black people in America are to white people. As for habar Johns they have always been the ones to suffer the most in our hands. No other Somali got owned like them. Nor even dhabayaco!

A Dhulbahnte man said; Doqonkii Ogaden....

Need I say more or shall we SNM it? Cause if you had any sense you would know that HY and Cidagale have been the Bain of your existence pushing you from as far north as Berbera, Coastal Somaliland, to central Somalia.

Cali Dhuux was astonished to see how a small section of the HY were basically able to commando and assault a much larger tribe taking away both wealth and land. His only conclusion was that the Ogaden dumb spastic reer miyi are nothing short of xolo. Today you have no home in Somalia proper and are being propped up by your Kenyan Bantu master to occupy for them what you can't hold with your own balls and once the Bantus leave it will be business as usual. The special needs donqon Ogaden will be made homeless in Somali proper...