Somali clan Productivity and Success

[STARKAST]

The average wage in Bosaso is the highest of Somalia being 1200 USD and up annual while in the rest of Somalia being less than 600 [2].

http://www.biyokulule.com/view_content. ... icleid=752

https://somalia.humanitarianresponse.in ... 202014.pdf

Thats a 2014 article too.


Another idea is capital an its reach.

All the below clans live furthrest from Garowe, Hargeis and Xamar - Bossaso is an exception because it is a port city, my theory.
Gadabuursi
dhuls
warsan
marehan
ogaden
and habar gidir and other laafs of our friends Hawiye

These clans lands may be undeveloped due to lack of coordination and recognition.


Who would of thought education can disadvantage you, only in Somalia however sorry love that is an inadequate reason for Gadabuursi lands underdevelopment, maybe regional capitals with actual substance can alleviate the problem of gobol underdevelopment.

any views from those from clans above ?

[sahal80]

@ sahal - yes gadabuursi i suspect has accepted poliitical 2nd class. hence their lands not really developed just 1 city borama which is quite small.

Actually no mj are not aggressive to dhuls, this doesn't exist, they are just uncooperative to mj demands.

so your saying sool lack of development is because of abuse from mj and isaaq? or maybe is it because they are a backward clan geeljire nolol, no port, no industry?

in Jubbaland/kismaayo they are successful and prosperous before - port

Puntland(gaas&faroole) has destroyed khatumo diplomatically this has helped more somaliland, gaas when he was the pm and faroole have excluded khatumoo from the UN-led road mp by calling her a "contested region"

If khatumo had a national and international legitimacy they may had some resources and resist more.

As for HG and hawadle cooperation, normally should be this way, they did it in the USC but HG are unpredictable clan not just for hawadle, they entered another military cooperation with marehan againist sheekhaal and gaaljecel who got attacked in their home towns like jilib and beerxaano.

The other reason is that HG is a disorganized clan but when your dealing with abgaal your dealing with one group, thus, less political problems besides abgaal having a rich farm lands and have not its eyes on hiiraan.

[Sophisticate]

The average wage in Bosaso is the highest of Somalia being 1200 USD and up annual while in the rest of Somalia being less than 600 [2].

http://www.biyokulule.com/view_content. ... icleid=752

https://somalia.humanitarianresponse.in ... 202014.pdf

Thats a 2014 article too.


Another idea is capital an its reach.

All the below clans live furthrest from Garowe, Hargeis and Xamar - Bossaso is an exception because it is a port city, my theory.
Gadabuursi
dhuls
warsan
marehan
ogaden
and habar gidir and other laafs of our friends Hawiye

These clans lands may be undeveloped due to lack of coordination and recognition.


Who would of thought education can disadvantage you, only in Somalia however sorry love that is an inadequate reason for Gadabuursi lands underdevelopment, maybe regional capitals with actual substance can alleviate the problem of gobol underdevelopment.

any views from those from clans above ?

Its contingent on your mentality as well. Sometimes individuals that are highly educated are more content with paid employment and less akin to take risks, in fact they become more averse to risk and hence less inclined to be entrepreneurial. In any case, what do you propose? A shift in their collective consciousness?

[Warabaha]

Most educated somali are Gadabuursi, habar awal, abgaal.

[Tanker]

Starkast we got the point

you are from the most glorious tribe and you are damn good looking

[Warabaha]

Starkast we got the point

you are from the most glorious tribe and you are damn good looking

indeed maJAREERten are the most noble

[Caesar]

You also forgot abuse of common ancestor, today in somalia isaaq iyo gadabuursi share Dir, beesha eat from 2 cakes. 'bad numerical image' is quite interesting, are they really a big clan ?
Gadabursi yes are politically naive and today they have nothing to show. sister pride or dignity doesn't produce a economy. Why don't they utilize their 2 ports ? No ones stopping them,

Maybe my theory has already failed ?

Why do you keep writing nothing to show, your jealousy is coming out
We have agriculture, business, among st other sectors, we have an economy, what you write makes no sense whatsoever and just brings forth your inferiority complex.

Peace and Stability are two building blocks we have but not the only ones.. (Education,Resources,Connections and many more)

The future is ours for the taking

Zaylac and Lughaya port are on the come up,the Dir have Djibouti city...do not forget. and our future plans are none of your business really, focus on, Gedo? or Whatever forsaken town you come from.
Starkast you were the fake Awdal shegaato correct?

[Caesar]

The Somali imagination has Gadubursi as a small clan. right ? they have been pushed back on both sides they used to own dira dawa and galibey. maybe this psychological torment has impacted on gaddubursi underachivment.

40% of Gabiley is gadabursi, and the biggest neighborhood there is gadabursi

Dire Dawa is a Gurgura and Cisse town, ( Gadabursi are there too) and Jigjiga is going to be a majority Samaroon spot ( they built it remember they are also around 35-40% of Jig jiga)

Numbers are not the problem, Gadabursi have the land and the people, like I indicated earlier the future is theirs for the taking. Those jealous will not stop them.
When your dived among-st 3 countries and one self declared state, you have to give them props, Gadabursi are doing quite well. The peaceful always succeed

[Caesar]

@ JuliusCaesar ok Borama is a sustainable city i agree but your still marginalised whether in Djibouti/Somali land/Somalia..too ilbax

You will never match us, in all your years of begging
The sleeping giant will awaken.

[STARKAST]

@ Sahal so your clan are undeveloped because of suspicion of hg and they are lacking because they are disorganised and lack focus ? hiraan is a breadbasket why is it barren i've got pics to prove this !!
and dhuls is undeveloped due to Puntland defeating git politically with SL, I don't agree maybe they are just rural people with no focus.

@ sophisticate, yes a shift or part transition to something beneficial economically. maybe its just because your population is small despite a big diaspora and 2 ports. its ok though underachieving is normal, nonetheless the thread is more for other clans, at least yours is peaceful

@Tanker, whats the point

@JuliusCaesar, calm down how can i be jealous, Awdal shegato what is this you speak of ? why are you marginalized in somaliland somalia Djibouti , and Somali galbeed ? if your so gifited in all the reasons you said then why are you no.2 everywhere yet awdal is not developed. 2 ports no productive. i will class u as a underachieving clan, but thats not bad lighten up. better to focus on borama to compete with hargeisa.

[Sophisticate]

Starkast how are they underachieving, when my uncle was Dahir Riyale Kahin. When most of my relatives hold PhDs and advanced degrees and tend to be more forward thinking then you. They were always more nationalistic than other tribes. Show me this achievement that you speak of with Somalis of other Clans? You can remove Awdal from your location as you aren't from there. Borama has Amoud University, agriculture, the only school for the deaf in the Horn of Africa. And for a group of people that receive no assistance from the government or aid money they are doing quite well. Why don't you go siphon off funds to your clansmen as moryaans do. And yes I am more concerned with my territory then others, why don't you shift your focus on that as well. Wouldn't want borama to expel all you konfurs, imagine what they'd do you in hargeysa.

[Adali]

Starkast how are they underachieving, when my uncle was Dahir Riyale Kahin. When most of my relatives hold PhDs and advanced degrees and tend to be more forward thinking then you. They were always more nationalistic than other tribes. Show me this achievement that you speak of with Somalis of other Clans? You can remove Awdal from your location as you aren't from there. Borama has Amoud University, agriculture, the only school for the deaf in the Horn of Africa. And for a group of people that receive no assistance from the government or aid money they are doing quite well. Why don't you go siphon off funds to your clansmen as moryaans do. And yes I am more concerned with my territory then others, why don't you shift your focus on that as well. Wouldn't want borama to expel all you konfurs, imagine what they'd do you in hargeysa.

[SecretAgent]

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Africa/Somalia%20
Also admas university is taken over. All Somalis fail on this front. Boorame university has been decreasing in prestige. However yes it is still a good uni.

I'm still awaiting the reason to why reer gedo, sool, saanag, cayn, somali galbeed iyo galgaduud, bakool etc are doing so poor.
Also reer Mogadishu should be the most well off but are they ?

Whats even more sad is that the breadbaskets fare the worst than the arid regions

u idiot #3 and #13 are both in the same city borama,somaliland state of somalia and the most richest person in borama is xawadle hargeisa richest ppl HG burco is Duduble berbera is a mix of all hutus in somalia all corporations are run by hutus with some idoor shares in hargeisa somalilanders should stick to music,khat they control these sectors

[skywalker25]

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Africa/Somalia%20
Also admas university is taken over. All Somalis fail on this front. Boorame university has been decreasing in prestige. However yes it is still a good uni.

I'm still awaiting the reason to why reer gedo, sool, saanag, cayn, somali galbeed iyo galgaduud, bakool etc are doing so poor.
Also reer Mogadishu should be the most well off but are they ?

Whats even more sad is that the breadbaskets fare the worst than the arid regions

u idiot #3 and #13 are both in the same city borama,somaliland state of somalia and the most richest person in borama is xawadle hargeisa richest ppl HG burco is Duduble berbera is a mix of all hutus in somalia all corporations are run by hutus with some idoor shares in hargeisa somalilanders should stick to music,khat they control these sectors

You should quit this politics stuff and play with your Ken and Barbie dolls.

[Bermooda]

STARKAST i hope you have learned your lesson here sxb
http://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/defau ... rtland.pdf