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the somali diaspora conference in turkey was organized by some ala sheekh figures like abdi ainte the director of HIPS institute (a cover organization for ala sheekh that tries to replace the international crisis role in somalia since most of its figures had worked before with her just like the CRD in order to enter the power from the westren doors just like dj did under its CRD cover)

It was ala sheekh who's started the relationship with turkey and every thing that's currently going on with turkey is just an extansion of their policy except the security policy

Is this has to do some thing with the somali govts new relations with saudia arabia, UAE and egypt?

Ala sheikh are not like what most are thinking of them like "being xeroows" its a secret netwrok that has its relations, cover organizations, intellectuals and intelligence officers, its the earliest wing of the muslim brotherhood in somalia that dates back to the 50s and 60 unlike of the al islah movement who just appeared by the end of the 70s but has dominated the islamic movement and the education sector since it had full coordination with the international muslim brotherhood

the idea of the somali heritage instutute HIPS was suggested first by the professor afyare ilmi who's based in qatar

Andi ainte use interview him when he was a journalist at VOA and through him he moved to al jazeera until he suggested to him this idea since the professor didn't like to leave his job and run it instead by himself

There's another ala sheekh professor who's based in qatar and is related to abdi ainte and he's called hassan/hebel bariise

Most of its activists are abdi ainte(his father was a sheikh in the majmac al culama the religious wing of ala sheikh or ikhwan as their official name if not its last leader)

Includes his deputy at HIPS abdirahman xoosh and some TFG ministers the important one being abdikarim the ex information minister and sheekh sharifs political advisor

Who knows now if qatar is behind this conference through these professors

Looks like the funds are ready for ala sheekh!

The answers are coming soon.

Abdi ainte there

And there

First of all nobody gives a damn about Turkey. Bottom line is the West in the future down the road they are going to support a very secular Guy/Admin. These hebel jadiid, hebel sheekh people are nothing more than tools and a bridge to bridge the gap. I have had it with these stupid so called 'Political Islam' groups who are actually far from Islam and are using it for an agenda. They are criminals, and I'd much rather have a calmani take control which I really believe will happen in the near future

Abdi Aynte has nothing to do with the Global Somali Diaspora conference and neither does it got to do with 'Ala Sheekh'. This is a conference for the Somali diaspora to unite under one entity and the Turkish government was hosting this diaspora conference. They have already elected the CEO and vice. The CEO is Isaaq from the UK and the vice is a Daarood from USA.

Important delegates in this conference was Dr Maryam Qasim former minister and the chairperson of Tayo political party, also Mohamed Sheik Ali Diini the chairperson of Horizon a organisation based in Mogadishu, the Somali ambassador for Turkey. There were community leaders from Somali diaspora around the world.

It is was a important conference and a important institution created to unite the Somali diaspora in order to facilitate and develop the Somali diaspora but also help the assist the Somali diaspora role in rebuilding Somalia.

I wish success for Global Somali Diaspora (GSD) and I'am a great supporter for this new institute.

First of all nobody gives a damn about Turkey. Bottom line is the West in the future down the road they are going to support a very secular Guy/Admin. These hebel jadiid, hebel sheekh people are nothing more than tools and a bridge to bridge the gap. I have had it with these stupid so called 'Political Islam' groups who are actually far from Islam and are using it for an agenda. They are criminals, and I'd much rather have a calmani take control which I really believe will happen in the near future

lol who mediates for the US policies and mostly in the obama era for middle east and is not turkey? Is not tukey who the one who mediates between the US and iran despite israel being againist this role? The same role on who shall rule syria? Have a stake in iraq and currently protecting the oil fileds through the kurdish and their special forces?

To know what I'm talkig about look where the HIPS relations with the west/the US have reached; gives testamony in the senate, means having influence on the US policy for somalia!
http://www.heritageinstitute.org/testam ... us-senate/

First of all nobody gives a damn about Turkey. Bottom line is the West in the future down the road they are going to support a very secular Guy/Admin. These hebel jadiid, hebel sheekh people are nothing more than tools and a bridge to bridge the gap. I have had it with these stupid so called 'Political Islam' groups who are actually far from Islam and are using it for an agenda. They are criminals, and I'd much rather have a calmani take control which I really believe will happen in the near future

lol who mediates for the US policies and mostly in the obama era for middle east and is not turkey? Is not tukey who the one who mediates between the US and iran despite israel being againist this role? The same role on who shall rule syria? Have a stake in iraq and currently protecting the oil fileds through the kurdish and their special forces?

To know what I'm talkig about look where the HIPS relations with the west/the US have reached; gives testamony in the senate, means having influence on the US policy for somalia!
http://www.heritageinstitute.org/testam ... us-senate/

Turkey is a subordinate of the West. Don't try to tell Me Turkish Foreign policy to Somalia trumps American foreign policy to Somalia.

Abdi Aynte has nothing to do with the Global Somali Diaspora conference and neither does it got to do with 'Ala Sheekh'. This is a conference for the Somali diaspora to unite under one entity and the Turkish government was hosting this diaspora conference. They have already elected the CEO and vice. The CEO is Isaaq from the UK and the vice is a Daarood from USA.

Important delegates in this conference was Dr Maryam Qasim former minister and the chairperson of Tayo political party, also Mohamed Sheik Ali Diini the chairperson of Horizon a organisation based in Mogadishu, the Somali ambassador for Turkey. There were community leaders from Somali diaspora around the world.

It is was a important conference and a important institution created to unite the Somali diaspora in order to facilitate and develop the Somali diaspora but also help the assist the Somali diaspora role in rebuilding Somalia.

I wish success for Global Somali Diaspora (GSD) and I'am a great supporter for this new institute.

do you think i didnt read that on HOL? take your tayo shyt to some where else!

tayo doesnt exist, it was just a coalition of ex ministers in the farmajo cabinet in order to return back to the office, example abdirashid/rahmen xoosh is an old ala sheikh figure and was in his cabinet before this tayo stuff, maryan qasim i know even her house and her female students like my cousin, shes was an al islaah figure..current finance minister xalane, this guy has did big favour for shykh sharif when he was sick in sudan and suffering from malaria. halane was back then working for some UN NGO and he helped him. when he was in america as a president he asked about him when they told sh sharif wants to see you he was wondering why until he told him:do you remember that guy? it was me!.

farmajo had few ministers including gaas and abdi nuur sheikh, rest were ikhwans!.

now this file though im still looking for some answers and not sure about it has some link with what i said, i have been told that ala sheekh is behind it.

what can give you a clue about this is that the heads of this new organization hail from the same clans as HIPS

its the turkish agenda to work with these intellectuals and is not about "only sponsoring it"

i anyways i hate the long threads and I know your debate never ends lol so im out!.

Sahal,

ok

First of all nobody gives a damn about Turkey. Bottom line is the West in the future down the road they are going to support a very secular Guy/Admin. These hebel jadiid, hebel sheekh people are nothing more than tools and a bridge to bridge the gap. I have had it with these stupid so called 'Political Islam' groups who are actually far from Islam and are using it for an agenda. They are criminals, and I'd much rather have a calmani take control which I really believe will happen in the near future

lol who mediates for the US policies and mostly in the obama era for middle east and is not turkey? Is not tukey who the one who mediates between the US and iran despite israel being againist this role? The same role on who shall rule syria? Have a stake in iraq and currently protecting the oil fileds through the kurdish and their special forces?

To know what I'm talkig about look where the HIPS relations with the west/the US have reached; gives testamony in the senate, means having influence on the US policy for somalia!
http://www.heritageinstitute.org/testam ... us-senate/

Turkey is a subordinate of the West. Don't try to tell Me Turkish Foreign policy to Somalia trumps American foreign policy to Somalia.

omg! this is what happens when some one don't know the geopolitical policies of the world!

Firstly, there is no a US policy for somalia, it only has a security policy wich means each time there's a talks with the american officials 99% are about terrorism and al shabaab!

They don't care who rules or whatever as long as the war againist al shabaab continues!

Now, there are countries who have an economical and political influence on the US who play such roles, these countries are like turkey, qatar, saudi arabia and the UAE

Egypt is also closer to the US because of israel, example the US has sided with egypt againist ethiopia by preventing ethiopia from getting funds from the world bank wich made has ethiopia to depend on china

Now, this govt has started with qatar and turkey through djibouti(qatar is close friend of both djibouti and asmara and its troops are keeping the peace between them)

With the time, qatar has come up with dj and the use has funded it through qatar

Qatar and turkey are allies so stright after hassan sheekh was elected they both backed him with monthly financial aid and there was a policy of morsi giving him a military aid(this was reached between the three leaders in the arab summit in doha)

Now after they won egypt, the saudi and the UAE has approached him in order to change his regional policies

President hassan is inclined to them though he still has a good relations with turkey but not with qatar though not officially, they didn't like him going to cairo etc

Why he's not using turkey who offered him every thing like its security policy?

Bc ethiopia and the regional countries will be worry about for its geopolitical connections with qatar and the ikhwan of egypt so it will create more clashes though turkey can sort every thing from above(the US)

On the other hand the saudis have economical influence on ethiopia and are close friends, so they will be silent and can't against this at the same time can sort it out from the above!

This is the role turkey plays in iran and syria, if she succeeds, the US will reward her some policies against the EU and greek who use the kurdish card!

Lastly, the turkish people support strongly their slamist govt bc it has different policies than EU who let them down, the new turkey policy concentrates on the muslim world wich somalia is part of it, this islamic leading role of turkey has been supported by the US who uses this and was opposed by the EU, israel and the gulf arabs.

Its a big world so just read it!

http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A% ... EYQwcu&s=1

Sahal,

ok

my respects jaale

Sahal,


How is this beneficial being a project for dozens of Countries? You actually think that makes 'DJ' powerful?

Sahal,


How is this beneficial being a project for dozens of Countries? You actually think that makes 'DJ' powerful?

Your so-called wish for 'autonomous' is another project by foreign nations. Don't act like you care about the country, you only care about your qabil.

First of all nobody gives a damn about Turkey. Bottom line is the West in the future down the road they are going to support a very secular Guy/Admin. These hebel jadiid, hebel sheekh people are nothing more than tools and a bridge to bridge the gap. I have had it with these stupid so called 'Political Islam' groups who are actually far from Islam and are using it for an agenda. They are criminals, and I'd much rather have a calmani take control which I really believe will happen in the near future

So you're against the mixing of Church & State ?
Who are these criminals you're talking about?

First of all nobody gives a damn about Turkey. Bottom line is the West in the future down the road they are going to support a very secular Guy/Admin. These hebel jadiid, hebel sheekh people are nothing more than tools and a bridge to bridge the gap. I have had it with these stupid so called 'Political Islam' groups who are actually far from Islam and are using it for an agenda. They are criminals, and I'd much rather have a calmani take control which I really believe will happen in the near future

So you're against the mixing of Church & State ?
Who are these criminals you're talking about?

I didn't say anything about the worship of Asnaam and State, I'm talking about these filth who use the Deen for political agenda be they 'Dam Jadiid, Ala Shikh, etc'. Give Me a secular Guy who at least relies on His aucmen, intellect, strategy to achieve His ends and at least doesn't desanctify the Religion in the process. Ofcourse this would require educated folks, not the reer baadiye that have been posing as Somali 'Presidents' the last 20 plus years.

Sahal,


How is this beneficial being a project for dozens of Countries? You actually think that makes 'DJ' powerful?

lol sxb with many respect, this world of geopolicts is just too big for your horizons!

But let me give you one example about the power that the somali govt has

I have mentioned before of qatar not being happy about the presidents visit to egypt

Its for geoplotical reasons, egypt was sending a message to ethiopia bc somalia is very important to egypt and the defense minister was with him!

Do you know what means that? It was them who asked for, president hassan didn't even like to talk too much!


Qatar has no diplomatic relations with egypt so visiting her before restoring their diplomatic relations with egypt is a big disappointment so she lost big card that can be used againist egypt


The pressure come from arabia and the UAE to show his good intentions before any political and financial support takes place

Now, remember that somalia had once a long time regimes, all have survived geopolitically not economically!

Abdullahi ciise to dan adde somalia was backed by israel and the anti nazi westren world bc we have been under the italian facists

Do you know that addan adde was close to get assassinated in egypt under abdinasir bc of mosads support for somalia?

Back then we didn't have somali airplane so the president had instead a small plane that can hardly reach cairo each time he goes to the outside world so he had to use their
One day he landed at the cairo airport but the electricity has went off during the landing, thankfully he survived!


Israel was the first country to recognize us not in 1961 but in 1950 in the trusteeship

Kacaan has survived because of the eastren bloc the relation with america did not work bc carter was a christian paptist

Somalia is a poor country and can only survive geopolitically for its strategical position.

i believe it was a mistake for somalis to join these arab league and groups. it hasnt worked in our interests. now we have become subordinate to them and they view us as their pets. its a shame. sahals acting like these arabs view somalias govt as equals.

thats laughable they dont want somalis producing oil and have lobbied countries and give misinformation about us so we dont become and oil producing country because they have a monopoly on that in this region and somalis will carve up a good portion of their market if indeed their is commercial oil found in somalia which i believe considering how long the coastline is not only is their oil inland but probably huge reserves of gas and oil along the coast.

israel just found large reserves of trillions cubic metres of gas off their coast and are now going to be supplying egypt because egypt is bankrupt and squandered their gas by giving subsidies to israel at very low rate and now israel is going to supply them at full market price and influence egypts policies such as getting rid of morsi and muslim brotherhood and reinstating a general.

the arabs only interst in somalia is keeping you down and dependant on them. and using you as cannon fodder against ethiopia if their river nile is threatened.