Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the backlash

[Bro]

Beelweeynta Surre can't be defended without Amisom/Makane/ and the small hawiye clan in the region as well.

[SecretAgent]

How can xawadle be small after abgal,hg its xawadle

[Bro]

If only that were to be true, why would they need amisom

[sahal80]

Most silliest thread ever!

So DIR amisom are attacking another dir? Lol

Deefow is in the hands of this unheard before guy, he's called qoorey!

[SecretAgent]

Armaan you should be lucky xawadle invited dirs to hiiraan 1960s hiiraan is not a traditonal dir land history wise

[sahal80]

Armaan you should be lucky xawadle invited dirs to hiiraan 1960s hiiraan is not a traditonal dir land history wise

dir come to hiiraan as 3 waves: xer(tariqa) during the italians(according to the dir sources not hawadle) they setlled among reerow hassan under the coalition of faqayaal with one hawadle faqi(hawadle has two religious subclans the most important is called abdalle)

71-beerafaloow and kalshalle project

74- daba dheere

Before the 90s they had no their own villages except some farms, they spread within the hawadles and reerow hassan

Then by the mid 90s they formed their own villages

In this federalism era they claimed all the lands between their villages in order to involve in the politics

Caqli xomadooda, east of the river is hawadle so how can you say you can't drink from the river, the bank is for us

Next they started killing the people to stop this wich has lead into their halaak al abadiy!.

They are imitating sheekhal but they forgot that sheekhaal are protected by ethiopia!

I feel bad for these brothers!.

[SecretAgent]

Only police and sna should have weapons all residents should be disarmed or join sna hiiraan admin failed on this

[Bro]

Secret I'm afraid your views on history is very much distorted, some what similar to this nigga who thinks Surre will pack their shidh and hit the high road lol

[sahal80]

Only police and sna should have weapons all residents should be disarmed or join sna hiiraan admin failed on this

somali clans were always armed since the incient times

Sheekhals, faqis, ashrafs were given a safe passage and welcomed due to their religous roles as mocalimiin, roobdoon, xer etc

Now they armed and want their own states inside the clans who hosted them as magan!.

[Bro]

Secretagent, History wise, we've been there since the early 16 to 17 hundreds which are factual historic evidence that's nothing new, nor is it relevant to whats taking place in the region today. The problem is that you've got hawiye clan that's attacked these regions more than once, but every time they lose a battle they tend to labelled their adversaries with derogatory terms like nabadiid ama Shabab to get support from the dameer administration down in Xamar.

Waxaa la hayaa cadeymo in ay Beesha Xawaadle u adeegsatay hubkii qarankii iyo sumadii ciidanka qaranka dagaalkii lagu gubay Deefow 15.july. Waxaa la hayaa warar maqal iyo muuqaal oo sheegay in ciidan badan ay ka baxeen Gobolka Hiiraan 14.july iyagoo la sheegay inay howlgalo ka sameynayaan degmada Maxaas, si ay u soo qabqabtaan dhalinyaro Al-shabaab ah. Taas waxaa xigay in habiinka saq dhexe ee 15.july, salaada Subax ka hor, la weeraray Deefow, laguna garaacay madaafiic iyo hubkii qaranka, ka dib markii ay fooda gelin kari waayeen Deefow, halkaas oo ay ku sugnaayeen dhalinyaro Difaacaya degaankooda, maatadooda, iyo shacabkooda.

Ciidanka iyo Hubka lagu garaacay Deefow oo ah ciidankii la sheegay inay ku socdaan Degmada Maxaas si ay u soo qabtaan Al-shabaab.

[Caesar]

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[Caesar]

@Sahal Dir have been in the south and central for thousands of years

one of the most famous migrations was after the Ahmed Gurey wars, biyomaal went down south

what are you on about? Immediately after they went down south they established trade routes and cities. the surre not sure when they entered the central and south and armaan won't answer because wa fake

but the dir have been in the central and south parts of somalia for thousands of years

[sahal80]

@Sahal Dir have been in the south and central for thousands of years

one of the most famous migrations was after the Ahmed Gurey wars, biyomaal went down south

what are you on about? Immediately after they went down south they established trade routes and cities. the surre not sure when they entered the central and south and armaan won't answer because wa fake

but the dir have been in the central and south parts of somalia for thousands of years

dir in hiiraan are only guests!

Lower shabelle is different story

Let me teach you about hiiraan

Traditionally east of the river is hawadle 95 percent from middle shabelle to shabelle region(gode) inside the somali region region but few small clans live among them like udeejeen, loobage, aw hassan, dir(reer cabdalle of faqi omar who are more in galgaduud and faqi mohamed, more older than them in hiiraan. Lately more faqi omar was joining them and no one has side to them no

When shabaab stopped the forieng aid, the ONGs started buying from the local farmers, this has made good market for the locals

A few faqi farmers were on the east side of the river before the borders

There are two subclans who live with them(reer ugaas and adan warsame)

Other nomadic hawadles near by and who use the river when the wells are empty have joined them in farming

Faqis thought they may lose the land(not their farmes exactly but the whole green banka wich is common)

So they said no to the other hawadles!! The same people who were switching the sides all the times as nomads

At the same time agreeing more xeraale faqis to arrive!

On the west side of the river is found jajeele who are politically allied with hawadle

So they welcomed the new hawadle farmers on their side with no problem yet the faqis who are on the hawadle side are saying no!

the river all the eastren part is hawadle, on the westren banks is found the jareer farmers who live between the hawadle and gugundhabe

Some jajeele are farmers on the northwest

On the south west after jareer its baddicadde along the river banks, gaaljecel live more in the hinter land in the south west not farmers

At baledweyne, on the southwest the river is getting closer like liiqjeeloow there live some hawadle farmers like cabdi yussuf, abdalle and adan warsame so hawadle lives in the west in this part also in qoraxsin(buloburde located on the west of the river)

Gaaljecel live in buqaqable north west of buloburde, here hawadle stretches behind galjecel on the west side behind them up to fiidow in middle shabelle, badi caddo goes futher on the west side up to boorweyn where gaaljecel turn turns to coming from ceelcale southwest of baladweyne70km and from there continues middle to west of mahaday, west of jowhar(they are the second in middle shabelle after abgaal hence the gaaljecel vice governor))

Jalalaqsi and buloburde are only hawadle and baddicadde

FACTS!

[Caesar]

@Sahal 80! SHiekhaal have Dir origins, from Zaylac to Harar

they went down south too but you don't question their claim to the land

hawiye do not own the south get that through your head, the minute biyomaal went down south they established trade routes, cities, and civilization,

the Surre Dir spread the deen to you all , and brought civilized manners and deenta ISLAM

the Shiekhaal brought deen as well.

Yet you only question the "dir" ( TOO BROAD A LABEL SAY THE SUB SUB SUB SUB SUB SUB CLANS)

right to the south. You cannot "evict" the owners of somalia are you retarded? we killed the italians for thinking of trying to step to us.

so what makes u think we'll tolerate your peoples bullshit, expand somewhere else.

[Bro]

the Biyamaal as well as The Surre all left at this point their Southern movement from Amuud region in the 1600′s during the Axmed Guurey era. The Surre Dir who are, as a matter of fact, still in Hauda region and whom refer them self’s as Fiqi’s where the Her or sheikh associated with Awbarre/Buube/ Yusuf Barkad kowniin students who entered Mudug region at the time when the Ajuuran ruled at mereg and some served as Imams under one malakh Gareenow Xaasey. The Surre Fiqi’s, Biyamaal, Guure, and the Badimaal all entered the south by 1700. The Biyamal claim to have entered the Banadir area, a name meaning beynka direeb, in 1700′s

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