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Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the backlash

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby Caesar » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:02 am

Armaan he knows the truth he's just acting up for Somalinet

everyone knows that after the awdal-aksum wars some dir sub sub sub sub sub clans went down south and built shit.

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby Bro » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:30 am

When it comes to the history of hiiraan, Surre has been their for ages which partically goes without saying, I'm pretty sure they were their prior to hawiye clan emerging in the region, but that's a topic for another day. However, The river nor sharing the river was never the problem at plain sight. The real issue is quite simple, Most of the fertile lands in Hiiraan has always been around the bank of the rivers, Which is mostly home to jijeele, Fiqi Omar and minority clan known as reer aw hasan and Makane these four live peacefully together, But the last few months, their have been contracts thrown at the hiiraan admin to receive comparative advantages, which consisted of signing over the fertile lands which are Alaabay, Medina, Kabxanley, Deefow among other degaans that are solely home to Surre, So far they've captured Kabhanley but the battles of ownership in that particular region have been going back and fourth, and now they have the audacity to attempt at achieving the same outcome for Deefow which has backfired on them twice in the last week or so, and now with the joined clans who've obtained DFS weaponry and amisom have taken control of Deefow for a short period of time. These two clans are both confused individuals who don't realize theirs a third hand at play which is Hiiraan Admin :down:
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Truth is from Aflibax on a straighline to Kabhanley everything in between has no small hawiye clan population, These new settlers are nothing more than crusaders disturbing the peace in the region, and the only clan who stood against their rubbish is Surre and now their patting this as a fight against Shabab after several failed attempts.
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In late November 2013, 500 Somali armed forces were put through a graduation ceremony in Mogadishu and headed for Hiiraan, the administrative region of South Central Somalia. Their prime purpose was to bolster the African Union Mission’s fight against Al-Shabab, an Al-Qaida linked armed group in Somalia. On Thursday the 12th of December 2013, the same army dressed and equipped with the military gear of the Somali National Army rain carnage and destruction on the farming district of Kabxanley. To the dismay and disbelieve of the people of Hiiraan, their fight was not against Al-shabab, but rather a calculated plan spearheaded by the Regional Administration to takeover some of the best commercial farmlands in Hiiraan and distribute among the Xawaadle clan which dominate the political affairs of Hiiraan.
Kabaxanley is a small farming district 30 Km to the northwest of Beledweyn, the provincial capital of Hiiraan; its home to the Surre-Qubeys clan part of the larger Dir Family. The residents of Kabxanley are known to the people of Hiiraan as Fiqi Cumur, forename associated with the clan’s Islamic religious teachings during the early 15th century in central and northern eastern Somalia.
Events that unfolded could only be described as total annihilation designed to ensure the permanent displacement of the fiqi Cumur farming community. Armed with over 20 technical pickups and 600 men, the lightly equipped farmers of kabaxenley numbering just 70 who bravely attempted to defend their homes and farms from the invading army never stood a chance. Testimonies from farmers who fled to surrounding villages tell accounts of how their houses and farms were burnt down from the heavy shelling and soldiers directly instructing they vacate district then torching homes and farms.


According to elders in kabaxnely, their farms became a target for the Xawaadle clan when the director of the Danish Refugee Council (DRC) in Hiiraan, Cilmi Axmed Nuur, promised to fund farming projects obtained through DRC assistance if the Xawaadle communities who he shares kinship ties with could expand their territorial dominion over this rich farming district. It’s not uncommon for either politicians or directors of NGO’s in Somalia to fuel tribal tensions over economic resources.
A Somali government delegation led by the Minister of Natural Resources was dispatched to observe to events that have unfolded and force ceasefire between the warring sides. However, no acceptable peace plan was put forward by the government delegation which included allowing the refugees that fled Kabxanley to return to their homes and farms.

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:15 am

Totally rubbish!

DIR probaganda!

You should be fasting!

Dir live in the heart of hawadle not with jajeele!

This shows how your clueless about hiiraan, far libaax is closer to bakool!

Jajeele live in hiiraan, kilinka, bakool up to ceelberde

I will post the names of the hawadle villages in banka

The war on kabhanley is a result of another attacks

No, hawadle are not after two cariishes!

Your people are just greedy

The NGO part is heavily distorted

I already said, as al shabaab stopped the foreing aid, more nomadic hawadles have become farmers to get $

Naturally, in hiiraan every thing is dominated by hawadle bc allah made them majority

So these nomads asked the NGO heads some logistics and given such as motooro

This to use them in making their own farms why has this got to do with kabhaley?

If you stop being emotional and use your brain, east of the river is purely hawadle land

The dir are farmers but hawadle drinks from too!!


How can't you say you can't farm in there?

Not its not your land, your so tiny and don't even reach mustaxil while hawadle goes as far as qalaafe

You don't get mentioned in the ethiopian statistics bc your less than 7% in that region

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:34 am

sorry mudug boy google doesnt lie your found in a seea of hawadle you dont even reach the borders and mustihil
you lost deefow bc at night your mean have infiltrated into the village of dusmo and killed 6 unarmed men and women

you got totally removed


http://travelingluck.com/Africa/Somalia ... anley.html

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Far ... 80586add88
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Hir ... c3a8a33c4b
http://www.maplandia.com/ethiopia/somali/gode/mustahil/
http://www.maplandia.com/ethiopia/somali/gode/mustahil/

my stranger ever wondering xerow can you reach there in mustahil at the river banks!! this shows that you are no more a guest of hawadle, so edeb ko joog!!http://www.maplandia.com/ethiopia/somali/gode/mustahil/

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:26 am

For julias

What I told you so far are just the settlements not the nomads/reer gooraa!

In hiiraan we have xeer(law) that reer guuraa can go any side

Masalan jajeele and gaaljecel have more camels but on the west of the river is half sand( bacaad) half dhoobo, less long trees

On the hawadle side is half grassland half long trees so its good for all their livestock

Jejeele camales will cross the river to the north eastren side at some seasons to get long trees

Gaaljecel camels will do the same and reach at yasouman hills at buuloburde in the south

Hawadle cows and ari will cross the river as far as tiyeegloow

On the south west as far as bakool

In the reaning season they will go back to the east

As for settlements, hawadle lives from the eastren side of the river from mahadaay, qalimoow at jowhar to qalaafe and shilabo

On the west side its full of smaller clans. Badicadde from buurwen at mahaday up to buloburde, gaaljecel from west of jowhar up to buraqabo(but between buloburde and buqaqabo hawdle lives that why djibouti intered bulu burde from this west) a galjecel related clan but have political differences with them( they are in .5 not in hawiye) wich is called gardheere lives next side with hawadle at luuqjeelow on the west, next is baldweyne, on the west there's a district called hawlwadaag that's divided between gaaljecel and jajeele as laanta hilaac and laanta heegan...from here jejeele lives next with hawadle on the westren side until the mustaxil borders. Jajeele ends at here and its jiidle who lives next with hawadle from mustaxil to qalaafe

The dir in there are one of the tiny clans who lives within the hawadles not even a real clan just two religious reer
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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby GIJaamac » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:41 pm

So is our sister armaani saying that Xawaadle+Makanne+Gugundhabe+Gaaljecel+ AMISOM are all fighting against the mighty Surre clan ? :pac:

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:46 pm

Armaan its known that when a qabiiil looses a geeljire qabiilfare against another qabiil, often the loosing qabiils blaimes that the other side gott help from , USC. Hitler Army. Ethiopians. Amison. Americans. and so on.. mana jiro qabiil Qiranaayo in laga guuleeystay oo ay kabahoodii ka soo ordeen.. Armaan your geeljire distance cousins in hiiraan Lost this time..

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:14 pm

So is our sister armaani saying that Xawaadle+Makanne+Gugundhabe+Gaaljecel+ AMISOM are all fighting against the mighty Surre clan ? :pac:
Baadi Cadde and Jijeelle too.

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:20 pm

Armaan its known that when a qabiiil looses a geeljire qabiilfare against another qabiil, often the loosing qabiils blaimes that the other side gott help from , USC. Hitler Army. Ethiopians. Amison. Americans. and so on.. mana jiro qabiil Qiranaayo in laga guuleeystay oo ay kabahoodii ka soo ordeen.. Armaan your geeljire distance cousins in hiiraan Lost this time..
exactly. people are saying why these supposed religious men with big gar are lying :meles:

geo, they are all called gugundhabe.

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:35 pm

I know, it was intended as a joke :lol:

I genuinely couldn't care less right now about what's happening but I clicked on the thread just to check anyway, lo and behold Armaan is still going at it. His folks (may they rest in peace of course) were obliterated to nobody's surprise, yet he's making all of these threads, it's baffling.

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:48 pm

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby sahal80 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:49 pm

I know, it was intended as a joke :lol:

I genuinely couldn't care less right now about what's happening but I clicked on the thread just to check anyway, lo and behold Armaan is still going at it. His folks (may they rest in peace of course) were obliterated to nobody's surprise, yet he's making all of these threads, it's baffling.
im not on any side bro im just against their lies against the govt.

whos crazy to use army against such small community?


this mudug boy is attacking djibouti and dont know the situation

the relation between hawadle and djibouti is bad bc these dirs have been sending them cabasho of an army attacks

djibouti though it knows the army they become emotional abit so they started asking the wounded hawadles in the hospital some questions what do you do bla bla the geeljire told them imboow caqli kale ha iila imaan ee ko ekoow magaaladaada!
djibouti are now cautious, they dont mix with people any more, they placed dhagaxaan every where

this bc hawadle are no more cooperating with them so they are under alot of al shabaab attacks these days

and this mudug boy talks rubbish.

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby The`Republic » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:59 pm

Sahal, Arman mentioned couple times his family is from Xudur in Bakool. He speaks fluent May May

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby GeoSeven » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:15 pm

I know, it was intended as a joke :lol:

I genuinely couldn't care less right now about what's happening but I clicked on the thread just to check anyway, lo and behold Armaan is still going at it. His folks (may they rest in peace of course) were obliterated to nobody's surprise, yet he's making all of these threads, it's baffling.
im not on any side bro im just against their lies against the govt.

whos crazy to use army against such small community?


this mudug boy is attacking djibouti and dont know the situation

the relation between hawadle and djibouti is bad bc these dirs have been sending them cabasho of an army attacks

djibouti though it knows the army they become emotional abit so they started asking the wounded hawadles in the hospital some questions what do you do bla bla the geeljire told them imboow caqli kale ha iila imaan ee ko ekoow magaaladaada!
djibouti are now cautious, they dont mix with people any more, they placed dhagaxaan every where

this bc hawadle are no more cooperating with them so they are under alot of al shabaab attacks these days

and this mudug boy talks rubbish.
Meh, let him vent. You know, the reason I clicked on the thread was because I was wondering which small Hawiye clan he was referring to. I thought it might be a new conflict between Jajeele and Dir or something equating to that, but this guy was actually referring to Hawadle :lol:

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Re: Small hawiye clan of Hiiraan using Amisom after the back

Postby Bro » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:24 pm

^ You can thank your cousin who's made multiple reference and threads barking up the wrong tree, therefore I coined the term in that regard, Geo from the SHC, nice ring eh :Heh:

It comes no suprise that the small hawiye clan don't learn from the error of their ways, in this case the fact that they were completely annihilated in the recent battles speaks for itself, not to mention the three hundred individuals that were flown to Xamar after medina hospital reached beyond capacity level. Now whats more surprising is the fact you've got three grown men and habaryar GI GIJamac (who's clueless and inserting dhoocil propaganda like the cheer racketeer she's known to be) lying whilst fasting, goes to show you the mindset of hawiye whether civilized or otherwise are no different from those who attacked their neighbors during Ramadan. All in which shows complete disregard for diintu with that said, I presume lying comes secondary to your way of life, You can speculate all you want about the situation we all know this tiny hawiye clan couldn't have accomplished much without amisom iyo DFS which are facts not random google maps which have no correlation to what we're talking about here. :lol:


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